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Tibial stress reaction 9 weeks out from Kona

I just got back from the doctor.  I'm 9 weeks out from Kona.  I've had mild shin pain on the front inside of my left shin for about a month.  It never actually hurts to run or walk, but it's tender to the touch for about an inch in an area three inches above my ankle and I notice it while running.  Does that make sense?  It doesn't affect my gait, and I don't wince in pain, but I can definitely tell it's there.  Until this week, it hasn't slowed down my running, but I wanted to get it checked out.  The MRI showed a tibial stress reaction, but not a full-blown stress fracture.

This is my one chance to do Kona.  I got a lottery spot, and don't see myself qualifying anytime in this lifetime or paying $60K for a charity spot.  My main concern is to get to the starting line able to hobble to the finish, if necessary.  If I end up with a full-blown stress fracture on Oct. 9, it's worth it to me.  I'll bring a removable cast with me for the trip home (only half joking).   I've got all winter to recover.

The doc said to cut way back on the running, but not to stop entirely, and to stop the high-intensity stuff.  No restrictions on swimming or biking.  I'm OK with that.  It's hard for him to give more specific guidance, though, do to lack of familiarity with IM training.  Any thoughts on how to modify the EN plans?  I plan on sticking to gravel/dirt as much as possible to lessen the shock, and he said brisk walking is fine (which is good because I've got a puppy who needs to get out).  Elliptical is OK.  Any thoughts on frequency vs. duration?  In other words, 30 min. easy runs 4x week vs. one hour 2x week?  I'm planning on making up the lost running time with extra biking and a fourth swim each week.  Or should I be doing the elliptical or aqua jogging?  I ran for almost 2 hours last Thursday, and have been running 90 minutes or more each week for the long run for about 6 weeks.

Any guidance or just anecdotes would be most appreciated.  I'm in a funk about this.  I know people show up undertrained due to injury and do much better than those who try to stick with a plan and blow themselves up in the process.  I accept that intellectually, but it's still hard to internalize it.

My overall fitness right now is pretty good.  I'm swimming faster than I ever have (time for an all-out 100 yards has gone down from 1:20 to 1:16), and did a 4.4 mile swim race in June, so the endurance is there as well.  I ran a 3:13 marathon in December, and despite not doing an OS (I wasn't planning on an IM this year until the Kona lottery came through), my run is as good as ever (apart from the tibia!).  Biking is at least where it was for Lake Placid last year.  

 

 

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  • Keith, I'll PM you a plan that P and I developed when I busted a toe 10 weeks out from AZ a few years ago (I want to ask P for permission to share first, though). Short version is we had no land running until 3 weeks out, and I PB'ed the race.
  • Here's what I recommend from an Orthopedic Surgeon/Ironman:

    Psychologically plan on either walk/jog or walk the entire Kona Marathon....the whole goal here is being able to walk. IF leg pain gets bad enough you cant walk we have problem. ANYthing you do until Kona must be modified based on pain and swelling so you can AT LEAST walk the marathon.

    IF your training and you have  pain and swelling. Shut down the walking and jogging.

    Here's what I recommend:

    1. I agree with as much swimming and biking as you can. I agree, go to 4 workout a week.

    2. Run/walk only 3 days a week (you have plenty of base and ability)

    3. Running/jogging is allowed only if pain does NOT increase during or after.

    4. You could do more water jogging to subsititute for outside.

    5. You as cushioned as shoe as you can buy

    6. NO CEMENT or asphalt. Just soft surfaces, soft track, good trails, good grass, etc.

    7. Plan: 2 x/week do 30minutes of walk/jog and then 1x/wk a walk 1hr to 2.5 hr ONLY if pain doesnt increase. Plan a route close to home so you can abort any time. I would maybe start out just walking, if that goes OK, then add some jogging.

    8. NO speed work. ALL slow. Remember you must be able to cover 26.2 mile NO matter how slow.

    IF more questions, PM me anytime. YOU will do this, but we must be smart and very conservative about this.

  • Hi there, sorry to hear about your leg. Good news is you have lots of time to completely heal this thing. I disagree with the doctor and the others advice to continue to walk/jog. If it were me I would pool run in replacement of the scheduled runs on the program. I would work hard on the pool running. It will keep you very fit. If it is truly not a full blown stress fracture then it should heal quickly. A true stress fx takes 6 weeks to heal. You are 4 weeks into this. Shut down the run and I will guess that the pain will be completely gone in 1-2 weeks. Then you can resume land running. Keep one run in the pool then to prevent the bone stress reaction. Allow your bones more time to build up between runs.

    I had a stress fx 9 weeks out from IMCDA and pool ran for 6 weeks and did the IM, ran almost the whole way. Not at all injured after either!

    Carrie
  • The test that the bone is good is that when you touch that painful spot on your bone- it won't hurt anymore like it used to.
  • I agree with Carrie:

    Water jogging is great substitute if you have access to equipment to do it.

    There is NO PERFECT solution here. Alot of Empiric/trial and error stuff here.

    "Less is more" is a fine adage that will work here.

  • Michael, thanks for the guidance. I'll owe you a case of Nutella when this is all over. A good friend of mine is a sports med/rehab doc, so I'll check with him as well and report back. But it's nice to have guidance from someone who has done an IM and knows the EN system.

    The other thing that scares me is that my life may be turned upside down over the weekend. I'm a lawyer for Verizon, and the labor contract with our unions expires Saturday night. I've been "trained" to install/repair phone lines, which involves schlepping an 80 pound ladder and climbing poles. We're supposed to work 12-hour days with no days off for the first 10 days of a strike, then go to a 72 hour week after that with six days on and one day off. I don't think anything acute would happen, but I don't think I'd get much healing done when on my feet all day in heavy boots. My doc said he'd write a letter to try to get me out of it, but it seems odd to be raising an injury that prevents me from working at the same time I'm training for an IM! Even if I get out, I'd be stuck in a call center 12 hours a day. Either way, my training would be shot to hell just based on time constraints.
  • Posted By Keith Buell on 04 Aug 2011 09:47 AM

    The other thing that scares me is that my life may be turned upside down over the weekend. I'm a lawyer for Verizon, and the labor contract with our unions expires Saturday night. I've been "trained" to install/repair phone lines, which involves schlepping an 80 pound ladder and climbing poles. We're supposed to work 12-hour days with no days off for the first 10 days of a strike, then go to a 72 hour week after that with six days on and one day off. I don't think anything acute would happen, but I don't think I'd get much healing done when on my feet all day in heavy boots. My doc said he'd write a letter to try to get me out of it, but it seems odd to be raising an injury that prevents me from working at the same time I'm training for an IM! Even if I get out, I'd be stuck in a call center 12 hours a day. Either way, my training would be shot to hell just based on time constraints.

    Coming from this industry, I'd use this stress 'fracture' as an excuse to get out of contingency work. But I hate the whole concept with every ounce of my being. But that's just me.

    If you can't run with your own body weight, how on earth could they expect you to schlep all that crap around and be on your feet all day. They can't, if you ask me!

    Call center is better than install/repair work, IMHO.



     

  • Hi there - in the process of recovering from a stress fracture in foot back in may myself. I got lots of great advice here. The things not mentioned yet i think: 1) avoid NSAID's - apparently no good for the bone healing, use ice for swelling instead 2) get ultra sound if possible, I got the exogen bone stimlulator by e-mailing everyone in my local tri/bike/swim/run crowd locally and got a "hit" to buy a slilghtly used one from someone in my area. 3) up the calcium and vitamin D, prob good to get specifics on the amounts based upon gender and body weight from someone knowledgable in this area 4) do what you can to eat healthy while keeping your weight down (I wasn't so good at this one:-(
    I was pain free from a full blown stress fracture at 6 weeks and 2 days (at age 43, which I think is supposedly pretty good as these things take longer I think as you get older) so I have to believe the ultra sound and calcium/D helped. I also did pool running. I felt pretty out of shape in my first 5 minute test "run" when pain free, but have snapped back after about 2 weeks of slowly upping the time. and 2x stay OFF the pavement.

    GOOD LUCK!!!
  • Any post-training recommendations. Compression socks? Ice? Heat? Has anyone other than Linda tried ultrasound?
  • The ultrasound is not traditional US used in a PT clinic. It is often referred to as a bone stimulator. I used one also only because I could get one quickly from a friend who let me borrow it. Good nutrition, not overdoing any of your training to allow you to heal, eating clean to decrease "inflammation" and allow healing. Fruits, veggies, lean meat. Calcium per MD recomendation.
  • Keith, I feel for you. I had the same MRI diagnosis on my femur back in March. I was told NO running period. Bike and swim all I wanted. On the swim no pounding of flip turns. I took me 7 weeks of no running to get through it. I think the advice on pool running is a good idea. Also you may want to figure out if there is some other causal element other than overtraining. This may be a good time to do some key strength training to appropriate muscle groups to provide enhanced stability and power to your run stride. Recover quickly!!! You will do this!
  •  Keith,

    In Kona 2003, I was throwing up on the bike before the airport 100 miles into the bike.  My body was in meltdown-(pre EN) and I almost fell off my bike from the dry heaving.  I got to T2 and collapsed in a chair.  20 minutes in T2 and I started to walk.  I walked the entire marathon and finished in 14 hours.  So walking the marathon is possible with lots of time to spare. I  am not proud of my time, but I was in a really dark place in T2, and I somehow willed myself to get off that chair.  I am proud that I finished and gave the best that I had on that day.

    I would get really fit swimming and biking.  I would look at pool running.  I would get AQX shoes for your pool running.  They are meant for the pool and have wings on the sides for added resistance.  There is 2 types of pool running  Deep water where your feet do not touch or barely touch the bottom of the pool.  Shallow is like running through the surf with lots of resistance and the water comes up to your waistline.  If you can get some open water swims and work on your sighting skills.  Better yet if you can get some ocean swims with the waves, currents, and assorted sea life!!!  YOU ARE GOING TO DO WELL.  If you execute on race day (not like me), you will do fine.

  • I'm now working 12 hour days on strike duty at work and on my feet most of the time. My shin hurts like hell tonight. I'm going to request a medical waiver tomorrow. I might not get worse if I keep working like this, but I'm certainly not going to get better.
  • Keith - I wanted to add that I read about a study that showed that injured runners who did elliptical and pool running with the same intensity as they would usually do their runs were able to retain 80% of their run fitness when they returned from injury. Sorry for no reference, just something I remember reading. I personally would do both if I had the time just to break up the monotony. Reading is very do-able on the elliptical. I might get a pool Mp3 player and listen to podcasts or music while pool running. Best of luck; you can make it through this!
  • Keith you are getting some awfully good advise. I can't disagree with anything mentioned. My daughter had a similar tibial stress reaction 2 years ago. Actuallly she couldn't walk without pain. I didn't know what to do. The cross season was in doubt. After a little research I got a Smith Nephew Exogen Bone Stimulator, as mentioned above. If it can do wonders with nonunions, I figured it can help a stress reaction. Pick up one on EBay. They only have a limited number of treatments (200?) before the battery goes. So buy one that hasn't been used a lot. It is easy to use. You need ultrasound gel. Do some research and you will be up to speed. My daughter ultimately recoverd and qualified for her XC state meet. Was it the Exogen or the Powercranks? Ha. I think the Exogen quickened the recovery. Lastly the Exogen is a medical device. It might be wise to get a prescription from your doctor if he is agreable... then get it on Ebay.
  • It's been a crazy two weeks. My shin is slowly getting better. It would probably get better faster if I rested entirely, but I think I'm on the road to recovery. I've been back at my desk for a week now, so no more 12-hour days in heavy boots. (Just 12-hour days sitting at my desk with my foot elevated.)

    I've run every other day, starting last Saturday with 20 minutes on a cinder trail. 30 min on Monday on the rubber track. 45 min. on the treadmill (+15 on the elliptical) on Wednesday. 32 min. this morning on the track until I felt a little twinge, so I stopped, but felt fine immediately thereafter.

    Whatever plan I'm doing is not really EN anymore, but I'm OK with that. Last week I only got in 8 hours of training. (45 min. swim or bike before work, two days off, and a 4 hour bike ride on Sunday.) This week, I should get in 13-13.5 hours.
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