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Just did Timberman a month after Placid.  Placid went great (10:45), Tman went well too but not a PR.  Could feel Placid (as expected) but a great day just the same (4:59).  Question is, so what next?  Recover, yes, but I don't really want to shut it down totally for the season.  Might jump into a sprint in September/October or run a half marathon in early October.  Wondering what the training might look like as I kind of "idle" for a bit.

Thoughts?

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  • When you idle, it's basically a "basic" week of training (see the wiki for info on it). Idea is to maintain some level of fitness and body comp....do some fun races and maybe even an epic cool ride or something. A half mary is fine, but not required as most do that at the OS exit point. Aim to shut it down in September for either an early Oct OS or regular Nov OS start...
  • Bob,

    The event you pick will dictate your training, the 1/2 marathon will be different than the sprint training.  The wiki has a document on how to modify the OS for 1/2 marathon and you could use that:

    http://members.endurancenation.us/R...he+OS+Plan

    For the Sprint I go with a short course plan, altough I have to admit I've never used them.

    See below for my decision process. 

    I'd look at this from your current fatigue and next year's races. 

    First on the fatigue side.  The 1/2 marathon will take more out if you are getting late season fatigue, I'd personally would lean towards a sprint which would allow for some time off and then get back to a plan.  The OS calls for a 10K or 1/2 marathon at the end to test your run fitness, perhaps plan for a 1/2 marathon following the OS. 

    My exception might be if I was needing/wanting to do a run focus over september/october and might consider a 1/2 or 10K again depending upon fatigue.

    Now based on next season do you have an IM on the schedule for next year?  If not then that pretty much can put you in any OS group you choose depending upon early season 1/2 IM's.  Otherwise use the season planning tool in the wiki and work backwards.  http://members.endurancenation.us/R...ng+Toolkit

    I'm doing Lake Plaicid so this means a 20 week OS, 2 week transition and 15 weeks (12 weeks IM plan and 3 weeks extra) dictates a November OS start. 

    Gordon

  • Thanks Gordon and coach P. I think I'll cool my jets and back off. I have some heel pain I need to get rid of before I start into the OS. @ Gordon: After my 10:45 at Placid I have come away feeling like I can go back in 2013 and make a legitimate bid for Kona. To do so I need to take my running to another level and be able to run 3:30 or less after a 5:20 bike. My FTP is (was) 275 and I want to get that up over 300 before I go back to LP. I'm actually hopefull to get close over THIS outseason but we'll see.
    So for next year I am thinking about doing a couple of HIM's and working in a couple blocks of run focussed training, maybe a marathon, not sure. Thanks again for the input, it helps a lot!
    BT
  • Bob,
    Congrats on 2 great races! Curious as to how you felt doing Timberman after IMLP--I ask b/c I have signed up for IMLP 2012 (1st IM) and really love Timberman and was thinking of possibly doing both. Of course, this may not be a great idea considering LP will be my 1st IM. Any thoughts? Have you been doing IM's & HIM's for several years?
    Thanks for any insight you can provide. I am guessing RnP would strongly recommend not doing Timberman.
    Justine
  • Thanks Justine,
    I can tell you that I DEFINITELY felt the LP fatigue at Timberman. I recovered from LP pretty well and didn't hurry to get back on the bike or out pounding the pavement. I think if I was going to do it again I might do a more "active recovery" for a couple of reasons. 1. It keeps you from getting too far away from training and 2. I think it's easier to idle vs re-start the engine. RnP will likely have better insight on this but all I can say is that I struggled to hit my .85 IF on the bike and I struggled to an 8:15 pace on the run when I know I am capable of 7:15- 7:30 for HIM run split. I should mention that I DID hike Mt Katahdin here in Maine the week before Timbermn but the pace was very easy and we took a couple days to do it so I don't feel like I was fatigued from that.
    All things considered it was an epic back to back for me and I learned a lot. Tough to keep that MoJo going and bridge the gap between the two but if you can pull it off it's a lot of fun ...errrr Pain... image
    I have done Timberman several times and this was my second LP finish. Good luck at LP! I'll be there volunteering and signing up for 2013! If there is anything I can help you with just give me a shout.
    BT
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