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1/2 IM end OCT best way to use EN to help prepare

Gentleman I know it's quite late but I just really found your website lately so.... It it reasonable to look at a training plan for a race that is only 10wks out. I have a reasonable base but am not where I would like to be. If not I can always use it for next years races.

 

Thanks,

 

Paul Seropian

 

Comments

  • 10 weeks is more than enough time to train for a HIM, especially if you have some reasonable fitness to build off of. You should be able to load up one of the HIM plans and execute without problems. Good luck!
  • Absolutely. You may find that the first week of the new plan is a bit of a shock (probably a lot more work than you may be used to), but hang with it for 3-4 weeks, and you'll get used to it. 10 weeks is a lot of time to get yourself ready if you've already got some fitness in you.
  • Yes, it's enough, as long as you're not completely getting off the couch now to start your training . The difficulty may be in adjust to how we train vs how you may already be training, as Mike said, and also wrapping your head around our terms, training zones, etc.

  • The EN HIM plans are written in both 12 and 20 week versions, just pick the 12 (but give yourself a week or two of saying "Holy shit, that's hard". EN is about intensity, not "base" or "volume"). Many people in the house will often jump into a HIM plan with about 8 weeks to go before their race and end up doing really well (although they've been doing shorter, high intensity EN stuff prior). Come on into the haus and there will be lots of people to guide you through, plus the good cop (Coach Patrick) and bad cop (Coach Rich).
  • Paul - with any kind of base in place, this EN style training, given 10 weeks, will be a dramatic help! Commit to the plan for 10 week, and as you get closer, you can start posting your race execution plan for input and tweaking/feedback and when you roll into race day, you will be good to go!

    Good luck bud
  • Just to riff off what Keith mentioned... I'm going to start my HIM plan next week for Austin 70.3. That's 8 weeks to go. I don't think it's uncommon around here for those of us with experience with the EN style to do 8 week build ups for a HIM.
  • Thanks everyone for all the support!! Any idea which IM plan might be right? I'm probably at ~ 25' swim / 3:05 bike and 2hr run.

    Thanks again
  • I'd go with the Intermediate HIM plan since you haven't done anything EN-flavor before it will be a good intro into it. Beginner plans are really for those that have no base/triathlon experience. Good luck!
  • Paul, you fit the intermediate profile. You've received good advice here from the members. Please see my welcome email to you where I described the things you should be thinking about this time of year as you consider joining EN. Thanks and enjoy your trial!
  • Thanks... you guys sure are fast responders!
  • To clarify my comments re: beginner plans, they're plans for a specific person- people that need a slower ramp up (as mentioned, less of a base/triathlon general experience) but also those that are coming back from injury, have a lot of things going on where they need more recovery/down time, etc. If my previous post came off as classifying the beginner plans as "couch potato" plans, that's not what I meant at all! Just like all EN plans, they're tough image
  •  A lot of comments about the difficulty of the EN plans. Here's the deal:

    We focus on the work performed in the hours that life gives you. Therefore the weekly volume of our plans become relatively fixed and we manage/manipulate the intensity of the workouts to increase training stress, forcing your body to adapt. This means a lot of interval training, Zone 3-5 stuff.

    Depending on your triathlon background, you may not have done a lot of Zone 3-5 interval work so it can take a little adjustment to wrap your head around how we define work around here. In other words, you're definition of "hard" is likely not our definition of hard and there can be some friction, a bit of a disconnect, as you work to calibrate your hard to our hard.

    In our experience, hundreds of athletes across 4-5 years, this is 100% mental. You've got it in you, the ability to push yourself harder than you are now, you just don't know it yet . One of the huge benefits of our OutSeason plan is you learn a new definition and perspective on what hard is. This creates the ability to push yourself in training = you go faster, but this ability to push yourself in training also expresses itself in racing. You're able to go to the Pain Well, so to speak, on race day because you've gone there many, many times in training.

    Patrick and I have been in the game for a long time. We've worked with a lot of athletes and see varying abilities to hurt themselves. This ability to take yourself to a dark place -- or not -- is easily worth 3-5 minutes in a half and much more in a full IM.

    Thanks, just want to put the "hard" into a bigger perspective.

  • Posted By paul seropian on 26 Aug 2011 07:49 AM

    Thanks everyone for all the support!! Any idea which IM plan might be right? I'm probably at ~ 25' swim / 3:05 bike and 2hr run.



    Thanks again



    Did you mean 35' swim by any chance?  25' for a 1.2 mile swim is a top of the food chain AG swim time.  Good for you if that's correct!

     

  • Thanks for the support. Bob yea I'm generally 25-27 mins swim for 1/2 IM - that just means EVERYONE is passing me on the bike by mile 12 or so... it really would be nice to brake 3 hrs for the bike and still run under 2hrs oh well guess that's what happens when your 48!


    Peace
  • Swim on, brother. Did you swim in college?
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