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Brainstorming the IMTX Rally vs Rally+Race

So, I have only gotten 50 emails or notes about the IMTX camp. Seems like people want their FREE!!!  image

Looking at the calendar, I am trying to make the most of my planning and travel. The same weekend we did last year, on the 2012 calendar, is the SAME weekend as the Galveston 70.3.

Part of me sez we'll lose some traffic, but we'd probably lose them the weekend before (tapering/about to go away) and the weekend after anyway (recovering/just went away). So I am thinking of combing the two. image

Athlete registration for Galveston closes at 7pm, and is 1.5 hours from The Woodlands. I could do the camp starting Thursday night, then do the bike course on Friday / Saturday and dash down to Galveston to suffer in a race.

Would anyone else be up for that kind of a schedule or would you all just make fun of me / curse at me on Sunday when you are running on your own?

Lemmeno...

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  • suffer all you want. I'm going to run without you. Don't want you slowing me down anyway image
  • I was thinking of hitting the Lonestar/Galveston 70.3 on 4/1/12 (did it several times before it was an official WTC 70.3); flat and fast with potential for lots of wind.

    I'm glad they moved it back to early April from where it was the last few years. Even at that time of year, it can still be hot and VERY humid.
  • I have planned on doing the Galveston race already so combining the rally would work but with two potential issues; 1. How much fatigue will I then carry into the 70.3 race? and 2. How does this sort of big week/weekend play out in the plan in prep for IMTX 7 weeks later?
  • That weekend works for me!
  • Posted By Patrick McCrann on 26 Oct 2011 07:57 PM

    Part of me sez we'll lose some traffic





     

    Patrick, you will lose not just some but probably most of your local (local-ish) traffic.  I'd be willing to bet the percentage of people doing both the Texas 70.3 and IMTX is much higher than you think.

  • Hmmm, good feedback for sure from all....so you locals help me out. So I go closer to IMTX (would have to be mid/late april) or mucho earlier in March? Both seem kind of out of the way. Wasn't the race the same weekend as last year??? We stil had 120+ people...
  • No.  Texas 70.3 was April 10th last year.  The Kemah International was the same weekend.

    I'd say go closer to IMTX because people will be in long ride mode anyway.

    Of course, I'm not doing IMTX next year so I don't really have a dog in this fight. 

    It's just that everyone I know that is doing IMTX is also doing Galveston.  I doubt I'm unique in that manner.

  • Probably closer is the best option. The run course IS three loops, so it can be re-conned without a really long run, so, it would lend itself well to an earlier weekend since you can bike deep into the training cycle.
  • Stephen, a lot of the run course isn't very user friendly on a regular day.
  • Hmmmm okay...but later puts me into Boston Marathon Territory for me...which is a big family affair (and oh, I am racing). I wonder if we can pitch it as an epic weekend, since if everyone is racing IMTX, they won't be looking to PR at the half...
  • It at be that if has to just overlap with Galveston, unless it is way out from the race, like 2 weeks before Galveston.
  • Posted By Patrick McCrann on 31 Oct 2011 09:36 AM

    Hmmmm okay...but later puts me into Boston Marathon Territory for me...which is a big family affair (and oh, I am racing). I wonder if we can pitch it as an epic weekend, since if everyone is racing IMTX, they won't be looking to PR at the half...

    Would you want to ride your bike 100 miles the day and/or two before a 70.3?  Maybe you would because your nuts but it was otherwise rhetorical.    What's the point in bothering with the 70.3 at that point because your race is gonna suck.  Once again, I think you'll lose a huge percentage of your potential customer base.  I also think the perception would be that you (EN) didn't pay any attention to the local race schedule.  I can almost guarantee the first thing people would think if they saw the EN IMTX Rally was March 30-April 1 would be, "Isn't Galveston that weekend?" 

    I see your conundrum with the Boston Marathon though.  You'd either have to go the last weekend in April (three weeks before IMTX, sually longest week in any training plan and rolls right into everyone's taper) or mid-March or try your luck the same weekend as the Texas 70.3.  I could be completely overestimating the Galveston Effect but I don't think I am.

  •  If you aren't looking to ride a particualr course, Ausitn would be a good place to get in an epic rally.

  • It's a race camp, so it has to be there...okay, so if we did the end of April, as in 3 weeks out from IMTX, does that work for everyone? Dates would be Thurs 26 PM arrival to Sunday 29 afternoon departure...let me know!
  • My schedule is open - I'll be there whenever.
  • P,
    I spoke to a few folks I know (two of which did the rally this past year) and each of them said they would not do the rally if it was the same weekend as Galveston. They were all cool with the last weekend in April. They were more cool with the weekend before that but I told them Patrick was running the Boston Marathon the Monday before and he'd probably be a little worn out. They were willing to cut you some slack. ;-)
  • Personally, my primary concern is how the Rally fits in with the framework of the training plan more than how it fits around a B or C race. If a 26-29 April Rally fits in the plan, I'm in. And I can definitely do some evangelizing to get as many non-EN'ers as I know to join us. btw, I'm sure you know this already but that's RR#2 weekend. Got some business to take care of that weekend. What better time to get your last RR done. Under direct supervision of CoachP.
  • I am planning on doing Galveston 70.3 as part of a 'big' weekend of training so in that respect the rally would suit me fine on that weekend. Last weekend in April suits me as well and last year they (Swim Shops of the Southwest) opened part of the swim course that weekend (April 30th) so Rally could also include recon of the swim course. The end of April may also get weather closer to race day conditions then early April.
  • I am with Vic totally on this. If this fits in with the plan, and it seems like it would minus the swim, I think it would be great. This could be even better as a replacement for RR#2 actually on the course.
  • Sounds good coach...pull the trigger and let's do it.
  •  Sounds like a good plan. 

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