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The NOS "Island Of Misfit Toys" Hack Thread

 

I know there are a few of us doing a hack or two this NOS.  So I thought I would start and alternative training thread for those non-bike and run sessions and see if there is interest?

I will start:

Since I can no longer run I am now officially a duathlete.  Along with the OS bike sessions I will also be doing a lot of swimming.  Today I did 2,500 yards at 1:38/100yds.  Nice sunny day to work on my Speedo tan.  

IMAZ is in less than 2 weeks and it will be just a have "fun with my fitness" day.  Swim, bike and walk.

 

Comments

  • @ John don't know if this fits, but I pumped up my balance ball last night and started my core, back, pec routine. Planning on hitting core/central strength and flexibility training, plus foam rollers three days a week @ 30 minutes.

  • 1) Shhhh, I am swimming too.

    2) I have a squash game at 6AM on Thursday morning.

    3) I am looking out my window every morning to see if there is snow yet so I can start XC Skiing.
  • I swa all last OS and will do so this year as well. I know it has a low ROI, but I need every second I can get since I'm just doing SC in 2012. Also, I think it helps stretch me out and feel better, especially the monday drill workouts.

    I prefer to run outside, but if it's too snow covered, I opt for xc skiing. And on some Sundays, even if I can run outside, I'll XC ski instead.
  •  Sheepishly raising my hand to say I went swimming today and will do so again.... My swim is solidly average (1:11 at IMC this year) but I like the stretch out and I find it relaxing. Plus, whenever I stop swimming I start to dread getting back in the water, so it's just easier to swim consistently. Not looking for huge gains, just remember what it's like to swim. Luckily I usually get a day or two off per week so I will work it in on those days. I did the 2000m week two swim hack workout and it felt good. 

  • John, thanks for rallying the troops! I am pumped to see where you guys get!
  • I'm trusting the OS and not planning to include any real swimming, but since I know I need to dramatically improve my technique to get to the 1:15 -1:20 IM swim I'm planning to get in the pool Mondays and Fridays to do some drills and work to improve my form and position in the water.
  • YOGA!! 1.5 hour deep flow class on recovery Mondays... LOVE IT!!
  • @ Daniela - just curious about your x-c ski wko's - i live in snow country and have been wondering if i can substitue some x-c stuff for the runs - dreadmill is ok during the week but when it's sunny and crisp the skis are calling me - when we get to the full moon night skiing awesome - do you do intervals? long stuff? hills?

    thx

    jeff
  • @Jeff -



    If it's replacing a brick, then I just ski without any expectations for speed. If it's replacing a Wed running workout, I'll do intervals, but it's usually something like ski hard to the next road crossing, then slowly cross the road, then hard again to the next road. If it's replacing a Sunday run, my SO and I usually drive over to the groomed trails that are about 5min from our house. There are 8 miles of groomed trails, with a fairly flat 2-mile loop. It takes 20-30 min to do the loop depending on how hard we push. We'll do one loop for a WU, race each other for the second loop, then either ski leisurely back to the car, or do another easy lap as CD.



    They groom for both classic and skate skiing. We classic ski. Apparently it uses more energy than skate skiing (if done correctly). I've tried skate twice, and it was a heck of a workout. I've also heard that classic is better cross training for running and cycling. Not sure if that's accurate.



    It's been over 2 years since I've run on the treadmill. Thankfully my town does REALLY well at plowing our bike/running sidewalks. The cold doesn't bother me. It's not unusual to come inside with a full-on frosty beard. I have a amazing gloves, and a very cute, yet practical, hat/baclava combo to stay toasty warm even when it's below zero without the windchill. The hardest part is keeping my eyelashes from sticking together.

  • I am swimming just because... I can't give up swimming! My first love. I'm down to 2x a week though, once with the Masters is a serious workout, but I'm trying to lurk near the back of the lane and not push it too hard. Once I just focus on technique/stretching it out, enjoying the water. Hoping to go sub-1:00 at IMCDA this year.

    Also, I'm confirming my black belt in karate in March, which in my dojo means a 2nd test (not as hard as the original black belt test, but still...) so I'm training with my partner 2 - 4x a week. And I teach the karate conditioning class there, which means 2x a week of core work.
  • ;Robyn - both of those goals are so impressive!

    ;Julie - hear you re yoga. I had hoped to find a hot class today, but nothing that fits my schedule. Boo image

     

  • Surprisingly sore after my squash game on Thursday. Lots of delayed onset muscle soreness in my gluts and hip abductors/adductors. Training for triathlon definitely doesn't help you lunge sideways! The specificity of muscle activity is really astounding. I was so sore through my butt that I had trouble climbing on the bike trainer. Once I got on though, I rode with no problems and hit my intervals. The bike muscles were fine while the squash muscles were shot. I hadn't played in 12-years before Thursday. Going to try to keep playing about once per week until race season. Definitely more fun than plyometrics or working with a set of rubber bands.
  • @ Daniela

    thx a bunch - i ski out my back door - break trail for about 3/4 mile - then i'm on the snowmobile trails - pretty much same as a groomed trail - i usually hit them early am as snowmobilers are not early risers - i do have some groomed trails 15 min away - running outside on my local roads are hit/miss as the roads are often slippery/windswept - if i really want to run the roads i drive about 15 to the "burbs" - during the week its just easier to hit the dreadmill image

    Jeff
  • Love this thread! I've been working on Operation: Make Beth Have Actual Core Muscles, so I've been visiting Dr. Dana the chiropractor/triathlete 2x week for a few weeks now.

    a) I didn't know what core was supposed to be until I started to see him. I feel like I'm builcing a cathedral out of my core muscles now.

    b) Bracing rules. Who knew breathing made such a difference? 

    I'm going to start swimming again this week, too. This, that, and run hack for ragnar? Will Beth die, or just be awesomely fit? So glad I am currently a single triathlete lady.

  • Full disclosure...I also do yoga once/week and a core strength class at the gym twice/week. The yoga is more stretching then strength, and the core classes are only 20-30min. My main reason for doing these are injury prevention.

    @Beth - When I first met with my PT I was amazed at the 'correct' way to do core work, and what all is considered the core. I try really hard to work on the breathing in yoga in pilates as well. It really helps.
  • How are all the Misfits doing? My kids already reminded me to set the DVR to record Rudolph when it comes on TV

     

    Most of the NOS training plan is going fine for me, but I have to admit that Tuesdays are kicking my butt. I have Karate for 2 hours on Tuesdays (non-negotiable) and I teach the karate conditioning class which is intense. Having a bike + a run on that day is too much. I think I'm going to have to fire off a question in the Micro thread and get something switched around.

    Otherwise, I'm keeping things mellow with swimming (which is tough!) My masters complained loudly that I didn't jump in and swim with them yesterday morning (at 5:00 am, it's not like I needed to do one more thing on my Tuesday!) and that I'm not taking my turn leading the lane on Saturdays.  But am holding myself to technique-focused Monday swim of only half an hour, plus the Saturday masters lurking at the end of the lane and not pushing the intervals. Feel like a slacker!

     

  •  OK, time to get serious again.  

    Hit the pool for the first time since IMAZ (11/20).  My goggle still had the gunk from Tempe Lake on the lenses.  Had to spend some time cleaning them off.

    First 1,000 yards were tough.  Then I loosened up a bit.  Slow going but I got it done.  Swimsense data below.


    Details:

    Entire Workout (Mixed Strokes) completed in 25y pool

    http://bit.ly/s4kqGe

    DISTANCE: 1650y

    PACE: 105s/100y (1:45 100/yd)

    AVG STROKES: 10

    TOTAL TIME: 29.53

    REST TIME: :56

    CALORIES: 390

     

    Who's next?

     

  • Average Strokes is 10? Is that just for one arm? What were your "mixed strokes"? I usually add in an IM to the WU and CD to stretch out the muscles.

    I've been swimming, but not with the same amount of effort that I did last year. I've really been slipping these past few weeks. I did test on Monday was was down a whopping 3 seconds from the first 1000m TT.

    Would love to get out xc skiing, but no snow yet. We haven't enough to cover the ground, let alone to ski on.
  • I haven't been swimming much and I have a feeling that the annual New Year's swim is going to kick my a**.  112 x 50 @:45 interval

  •  @Daniela - Yep, one arm.  Need to improve my swim Golf score.  :-)

    @Robin - 100 x 100's this week.  Not sure what I am going to do them on?  2:30's?

    I have A LOT of work ahead of me.  But if it is anything like past years, my swimm will be back in a couple of weeks.  Let's hope.

    John

     

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