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What's Your Cold Tipping Point?

 At what point do you bail on your run? For me it's almost never too cold....it's when it's wet and cold I wuss out. I think anything below 20 is out for me. so could be 30 with -10 windchill, etc. but if it's 35 and raining I bail too. that's sick weather for me, and I avoid it like the plague. How about you?

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  • It's rare that i will bail on a run due to temperature, but think the distance for the workout might sway me in one direction or the other. If i have to get all bundled up for 4-5 miles, it may not be worth it. Poor roads or snow on the ground are a lot worse to me then the cold.

  • That's a tough one Coach. Rain is always a stopper - if it is raining before I start.... I go for the deadmilll. Mid 40's or colder with a high probability of rain > deadmill.

    Early season cold weather is tough too, but once it settles into winter, I don't mind the cold so much. Temps in the teens are fine, above 0 is tollerable for shorter runs - like 45' or less. The problem there is freezing sweat more so than the cold itself. Having said that, I have not done more than 3 outside runs since the beginning of the NOS...... It just seems so much easier to not fuss with weather, temp, wind, precip, etc. and go down to the pain cave and bike/run watching a movie.

    Seems like I turned into a marshmallow - afraid to get wet, cold or go out in the dark...... Oh well.

    Yep, I have decided I AM a WIMP! There, I said it. I am one with my deadmill! I'm never going outside again! Ever!

    Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers will be playing tonight... for the bike and run....
  • On the run? Under 5F and things start to seize up. Same on the bike.
  • I don't mind running in the rain and actually like running in the snow, but my line in the sand is drawn when it's below 20 degrees F, that's when I hit the dreadmill.
  • I have a closet full of Craft clothes to ensure there is never a tipping point.
  • I had a few runs last year that were below zero F. With the right gear I can stay toasty warm. Luckily I haven't had to deal with below zero with lots of wind. The worst part is when my eyes lashes begin to freeze together. It's also common to have a frost beard after a cold run.

    If we get a lot of snow overnight I'll cross country ski as my run workout instead. If it's just a little snow, I strap on the yaks. For ice, screw shoes work very well.

    For cold rain I either try to run before or after it rains, rearrange my workout days (mostly just flipping saturday and sunday), or if it's a non-significant run work I'll just bail. It's been over a year since I've used a treadmill, and I'd be happy never using one again.
  • I won't get on the bike outside if it's below 50. My body just cannot warm up - ever.

    For the run, I like to tell myself I won't get out of bed unless it's 40+. I'm the same as Steve when it comes to raining too; I won't run if it's already raining, but I'll finish a run if it starts while running. I guess I'll test these feelings this Sunday--if it's nasty when the White Rock half marathon is (current forecast 35-47 w/ 40% chance of rain).
  • Yikes! I never see that kind of cold here so not really a tipping point for me on the run. However, in the summer, the heat index tipping point is a different matter...

  • Living in Oregon, if never ran in the rain...I'd never run

    The only weather I won't run in is when it's icy here. It typically doesn't get super cold, but if it snows or freezes, it will warm up enough during the day for things to start melting, only to freeze again at night. That makes our sidewalks and roads into skating rinks. I live in an area called "the south hills", which means skating rinks on 11% grades. Scary.

  • For me, it's not about temp, it's about footing.

    Yes, I suppose there is some ridiculous temp/wind-chill that I wouldn't go out in (and yes, wet and cold is another time), but I'm almost always limited by ice on the roads before I get there, except at the very beginning of winter. I'm only very rarely interested in running when I am not sure of footing. Around here, ice lasts so long that it just gets mirror smooth and sometimes even hard to see. I'll do my mile intervals indoor on a track any time before running on that stuff. No need to tear my hamstring (again) or groin or whatever. :-)
  • I have never bagged a run due to cold temps; I will go inside if the conditions mean I can't run properly ( ie. too slippery, icy,deep snow) or so cold I have to overdress for the type of run planned.

    I went to University in Wisconsin...back in the day before most "high-tech" fabrics....have some pretty good stories about frozen eyelids, cajones, and the like...LOL...nothing a few beers didn't fix up post run....LOL

  • Looks like I am the only one to take the warm and cozy way....... =:-(
  • If I have a cold tipping point, I haven't found it yet.

    Weekend before last I ran 24km in -25 (Celsius which is -13F). That was with the wind chill, though. I think it was only -18 or so (~0 F).

     

    Year before last(?) I did my long run on the coldest day of the year. Edmonton was the second coldest city on the planet that day (literally - I think Siberia was the only place colder?)

     

    Once you've got the right gear, I find it doesn't really matter what the temperature is.

     

    If it's really cold:


     

    (best invention ever)

     

    and


     

    (cover up the vents on the toes of regular running shoes)

     

    And if it's really slippery:


     

    (WAY better than yak trax)

     

    Fortunately when it's raining here it's usually not very cold - I can see how that would suck.

     

    With all that being said, I'm certainly not adverse to hopping on the treadmill and watching a show - it just usually isn't based on the weather.

     
  • I can do cold. I can do wet. I can't do both. Cold really doesn't bother me. Haven't been on a treadmill in over 2 years. Usually if weather is both wet and cold I will run around a small track at the gym (likely not much more exciting than the dreadmill). I think I'll feel better about running in the cold this year having seen what some of our Northern/Canadian members have to do!
  • I don't really have a tipping point - hot or cold - for running. I try to head out and follow what was once the 10 minute rule and now has expanded, for me at least, to the 15 minute rule - make no decisions concerning the run for the first 15 minutes. By then the blood is flowing, I am warm and things are starting to go pretty danged nicely.
  • @Steve, I, too, am a delicate flower! I love the treadmill. Seriously. But I can run outside if I have to. I just don't like it much in the winter. :-) And certainly not when it is icy - even though I have the yaks, the screw shoes, snowshoes, etc.

    ---Ann.
  • Posted By Scott Alexander on 29 Nov 2011 01:37 PM

    I won't get on the bike outside if it's below 50. My body just cannot warm up - ever.



    For the run, I like to tell myself I won't get out of bed unless it's 40+. I'm the same as Steve when it comes to raining too; I won't run if it's already raining, but I'll finish a run if it starts while running. I guess I'll test these feelings this Sunday--if it's nasty when the White Rock half marathon is (current forecast 35-47 w/ 40% chance of rain).

    I'm with Scott.  I've become such a puss since I moved to Texas eight years ago.

  •  Craig personifies the adage: "There's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing." That's what I would tell myself when I was bike commuting in the dark, rain and 35F each December. I don't do that anymore.

  • If its icy is my only tipping point.

  • My upper limit is around 80F. It's never too cold for a run in sunny SoCal, but I'll usually bail out on rain.

    That only applies to training through. When it's 60F out and I'm not running, time to get out the scarf and jacket! image
  • Only 2  kinds of weather I won't run in:  below -15F windchill or lightning. Don't want to turn into a popsicle or get BBQed.

  • None...and windchill is a state of mind! They keep the paths around the lakes near my home pretty clear, but if it is really icy, I might bag it and go inside. I think the coldest I've run is -25F or so. What's the windchill of a 6:51 pace in -25 air temp? I don't know, but there was definitely ice forming on my eyelids and balaclava. I x-country ski race too, and there's really no such thing as too cold on skis, so I just wear the same stuff and call it good.
  • ...oh yeah, and then I taunt all you people who run inside when it's above zero!
  • I'm a converted California wimp! Used to run outside all the time regardless of weather. Nowadays, 40 degrees or so for bike or run, then it's indoors.
  • When the sidewalks are icy I wont run, dont really care about the temp. I have clothing for every temperature; above 40, 30-40, 20-30 and sub 20 degrees. Falling and getting hurt isn't worth the fitness bump.

    BTW- Scott A. is puss if he doesn't run in temps under 40....just sayin'!

  • After many many forced runs in bad weather as a cadet or active duty army I am a wimp now when it comes to running in cold or wet weather. I just don't enjoy it so why do it. For me running ont he treadmill isn't that bad. If footing is an issue i definetly bag it and stay inside. Twisting an ankle or spending the entire time looking down just aint fun or worth the cost. I also just don't really like throwing on a bunch of layers to go for a run.

    for the bike, the fun factor goes way down for me below 50 degrees. If its raining I start to get nervous about crashing and the personal and financial cost of that. However, after the EN placid training camp this past year my confidence in riding in the rain is much higher than it was a year ago. That second day it was Pooring down rain in the morning and managed to stay upright. Alghough I was pretty frozen by mile 56.

  • When its cold and snowing I bail on the run, and bust out the XC Skis!
  •  I used to say I had no tipping point and a few winters ago I would run in anything, down to -40c. Just layer up and get the frost beard, frozen eyelashes, etc. Ovr the last couple of years, though, I've become less tolerant of the extreme cold, particularly during tempo or speed work... One too many tweaked muscles from putting out strong effort with muscles that aren't really "warm". My limit probably sits around -20c for long steady runs and -10c for harder efforts. However, footing, daylight hours, and having someone around to watch the kiddos also factors in, alot. We have a tm in the basement, and I will say that it gets a lot of use during the cold Canadian winter. 

  • Back in the day...never. Although I live in Florida now, there is nothing I haven't run in over the many years I spent in the north. I've been out in 76 below windchill. Down here, it's rare for the temperature to get below freezing, but I still run outdoors if it gets that cool. What I really hate most is running with a temperature in the low 30s and rain. My experience is there is NOTHING that is completely waterproof, and in those conditions you just wish it were colder and would snow...much easier to deal with.

    Running in the heat is a different story. I've been out in dry heat at 105-106 degrees (Iraq), but have cracked in the high 90s with equal humidity (Qatar). In Qatar I was forced to do my long runs on the dreadmill ... just not possible in the humid heat. Tampa is temperate by comparison.
  • In my old age, I've become a complete puss. Used to run outside at any temp, but since I bought the treadmill, I only run outside on Sunday's in the OS (and if it's raining, I hit the 'mill). Tuesday's and Saturday's bricks (done for one change of clothing) are on the treadmill after the bike (no time for 2-a-days in the OS!), and Wednesday's run is at o'dark:30, which I also gave up running in.

    So, I seldom run outside anymore!
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