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Big Bike Week Volume for HIM

Hi,

The wiki for the BBW provides guidance on mileage for someone training for an IM, but I'm training for a HIM.  Can anyone tell me how to modify the mileages for that?  Is it as easy as jut cutting it in half?

Thanks

Enrique

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  • IMO, a Big Bike Week is just that - a big bike week, and not a specific part of the training progression for any particular race. The idea is to use volume instead of intensity to jump start a quantum leap in bike strength. Given your current fitness, you may or may not be able to follow the exact mileage you quote. But the general principle is, the longer you go on a given day, the lower the intensity that day. Paying strict attention to details such as nutrition/hydration on and after the bike, saddle sore prevention, and daily extra rest & sleep go a long way to making the effort successful. Five days in a row is kinda tough unless you are already in great shape and/or are 25. A day off in the middle, replaced by a swim or something, can be a tonic for further efforts. Also, doing it with others is far preferable to slogging along alone.

  • Thanks for the input Al. There's 5 months or so between now and a BBW so plenty of time to plan it out. Going it alone does sound a bit tough, but not sure I can get any one of my local training buds to do it with me. Maybe one of those days... we'll see. If not, I'll just go it alone. Thanks again.
  • @Enrique, know that I wrote big bike and big tri week plans. They'll be launching shortly as we just got the vDOT thing up, are working on a new public EN site and much more...it has guidance for a half, etc!
  • @CoachP
    Any chance these will be available before Mid March? I have a big week planned then in (I hope sunny) Arizona
  • Posted By Ian Coleman on 15 Feb 2012 05:06 PM

    @CoachP

    Any chance these will be available before Mid March? I have a big week planned then in (I hope sunny) Arizona



    Ian, likely but you can always post up your ideas and let the team give you their advice. MUCH knowledge around in here with putting together big training weeks, but...

    Don't overthink it. Al's advice is spot on, excellent thoughts on structuring things. Tell us what you're thinking about doing and we and the team will give you our thoughts based on our experience.

  • Will do Rich.... Thanks
  • Enrique,

    Just before your Big Bike Week, go to your local pharmacy and order up a jar of Lantiseptic. At the very first sign of undercarriage chafing, apply like mad. Thank me afterward.

    Be warned though, it's easier to expunge a criminal conviction from your record than it is to remove Lantiseptic from your fingers. Have a wet wipe or a rag nearby.
  • @Bill - Haha! Never heard of it, but I will definitely keep that in mind!! I can only imagine what can happen without such protection.
  • Although I no longer am a triathlete, I have become a randonneur: someone who participates in long-distance, self supported cycling events that are known as brevets. Brevets start at 200k and go up to 1200k (and more!). We know how debilitating a poor saddle/undercarriage interface can be. We all know about Lantiseptic. Now you do too!
  •  @Bill "undercarriage interface" -- lol

    I gotta remember that one!

  • Enrique, I do a yearly Epic Camp in Tucson (except 2012!). If that's your destination, shoot me a PM and I'll set you up with some info.
  • I'm planning on doing a big bike week next month at a camp. Here's the place I'm going to:

    http://www.cyclingcampsandiego.com/Endurance_Training_Camp.html

    I chose to do my BBW at a camp because I didn't feel like riding a ton of miles by myself, and it's nice to have SAG support. I probably couldn't handle the stress of balancing 4-5 hours of riding each morning and going to work afterwards, so I figured that it'd be best to take the week off and make the most out of it. image
  • So here is my current plan. Th is my 3rd year of Triathlon training.  I'm a 55 year old 'Master' triathlete.   My 'A' race this year is Eagleman 70.3 in June.   I've not done a 'big' week before so I certainly welcome any and all comments on the plan.  This week will come towards the end of March just as I finish the November OS.  So here is the day by day breakdown:

    Day 1  Travel day.  I'm flying from the East Coast so all being well I should arrive in Tucson around noon.  My intention is to get over to the hotel, set up my bike and (hopefully) get a ride in to check it out.  After that I hope to get in an easy swim followed by stretching, an early dinner and then to bed.  No run planned as I will have done a long run the day before.

    Day 2  Up early for a group ride to Gates Pass and McCain loop   Should be quite a 'sporty' ride so I suspect I'll be hanging onto the pack before being shelled out the back.  Hopefully I'll have a chance to enjoy the scenery after that.  My intention is keep my intensity to Z2/Z3 and not destroy my legs by trying to keep up with the fast group(s)  http://ridewithgps.com/routes/869450 The ride is probably about 35 miles with 2400 feet of climbing.   I expect it to take about 2 hrs.  After that back to the hotel for a late breakfast.  Session 2 will be a short run followed by a 1.2 mile swim.  Then stretch, rest and recover.

    Day 3  1.2 mile swim before breakfast.  Session 2 ride up Madera Canyon and return. http://ridewithgps.com/routes/919405 30 miles and 2700 feet of climbing.  Plan is to stay Z2/Z3 until I get to the climb then I expect I will bump into Z4 efforts. Probably 90 mins / 2 hrs.   Back to the hotel for lunch.  Session 3 will be a 3 mile run.  Then stretch, rest and recover

    Day 4 Breakfast at the hotel before climb up Mt Lemmon.  http://ridewithgps.com/trips/250096  60 miles and approx 7000 feet of climbing.  Clearly the intensity here is going to get up there into Z4 pretty quickly.  This ride could be 4/5 hours.  Back to the hotel for lunch and a rest followed by short run and a 1.2 mile swim.

    Day 5 Travel Day.  Hopefully up early after yesterday's fun for a 1.2 mile swim.  Follow that with breakfast and perhaps a run before packing up for the airport.

    Intensities

    I'm not quite sure how to play this.  For the swim I expect to follow the HIM week 8 or 9 plan but cut the swim time short once I reach the distance target. You'll see my suggested intensities for the rides.  I'd welcome thoughts on how I should adjust for maximum benefit.  The runs are all expected to be in EP.
  • So here is my current plan. Th is my 3rd year of Triathlon training.  I'm a 55 year old 'Master' triathlete.   My 'A' race this year is Eagleman 70.3 in June.   I've not done a 'big' week before so I certainly welcome any and all comments on the plan.  This week will come towards the end of March just as I finish the November OS.  So here is the day by day breakdown:

    Day 1  Travel day.  I'm flying from the East Coast so all being well I should arrive in Tucson around noon.  My intention is to get over to the hotel, set up my bike and (hopefully) get a ride in to check it out.  After that I hope to get in an easy swim followed by stretching, an early dinner and then to bed.  No run planned as I will have done a long run the day before.

    Day 2  Up early for a group ride to Gates Pass and McCain loop   Should be quite a 'sporty' ride so I suspect I'll be hanging onto the pack before being shelled out the back.  Hopefully I'll have a chance to enjoy the scenery after that.  My intention is keep my intensity to Z2/Z3 and not destroy my legs by trying to keep up with the fast group(s)  http://ridewithgps.com/routes/869450 The ride is probably about 35 miles with 2400 feet of climbing.   I expect it to take about 2 hrs.  After that back to the hotel for a late breakfast.  Session 2 will be a short run followed by a 1.2 mile swim.  Then stretch, rest and recover.

    Day 3  1.2 mile swim before breakfast.  Session 2 ride up Madera Canyon and return. http://ridewithgps.com/routes/919405 30 miles and 2700 feet of climbing.  Plan is to stay Z2/Z3 until I get to the climb then I expect I will bump into Z4 efforts. Probably 90 mins / 2 hrs.   Back to the hotel for lunch.  Session 3 will be a 3 mile run.  Then stretch, rest and recover

    Day 4 Breakfast at the hotel before climb up Mt Lemmon.  http://ridewithgps.com/trips/250096  60 miles and approx 7000 feet of climbing.  Clearly the intensity here is going to get up there into Z4 pretty quickly.  This ride could be 4/5 hours.  Back to the hotel for lunch and a rest followed by short run and a 1.2 mile swim.

    Day 5 Travel Day.  Hopefully up early after yesterday's fun for a 1.2 mile swim.  Follow that with breakfast and perhaps a run before packing up for the airport.

    Intensities

    I'm not quite sure how to play this.  For the swim I expect to follow the HIM week 8 or 9 plan but cut the swim time short once I reach the distance target. You'll see my suggested intensities for the rides.  I'd welcome thoughts on how I should adjust for maximum benefit.  The runs are all expected to be in EP.
  • Ian, those look like pretty awesome rides! Check out the thread I posted here:

    http://members.endurancenation.us/Training/TrainingForums/tabid/101/aft/8127/Default.aspx

    Basically, you'll probably want to dial down the intensity of the riding if you're going to be spending lots of time in the saddle. However, it looks like you're planning a big tri week instead of just focusing on the bike. I would just be careful not to overcook yourself, as the point of a "big week" is to focus on volume instead of intensity.
  • Sorry about the duplicate posts folks
  • Ok. After some thoughtful planning, I realized I just can't do the BIG bike week from my own driveway. Too many things pop up in life with work and kids, not to mention fatigue, that it would be too easy for me to opt out of a day or worse not finish. Plus, I wanted to treat myself to something different. Routes I have never ridden or rarely ridden. And, I am at a place in life where I do this for fun and appreciate a wee bit of hand holding and creature comfort.

    With all that in mind, I wanted to be able to sleep in my own bed most of the week, if not all of it. I have small kids (4.5 and 1.5 years old) and I already travel a lot for work - 100,000+ miles with Delta every year for the past 5 years. Leaving home for five nights for my "hobby" just doesn't feel right for a bunch of reasons.

    Since the EN camp in Monrovia, CA (I could have ridden my bike to that one.... image Come on East Coasters!) is not gonna happen, I had to look outside the Haus if I wanted to stay local. Some how I will make an EN camp happen next year....

    So, here is what I found.... 5 days of riding in the Santa Monica Mountains above and around Malibu. Commute for me is around 90 minutes each way and I may stay a night toward the end as fatigue sets in. Date is March 26th through 30th. Then I have 5 week until THE "A" race of my season - Wildflower!

    325 miles, 35,506 feet of elevation gain in 5 days.

    Now I just need the Lantiseptic....

  • Dino, I was actually thinking of doing that same one originally, but I realized that I'd be traveling that week. Oh well, looks like a great camp though!
  • @Anson - I read your post as well. San Diego/ Temecula looks awesome, but I thought a tougher commute for twice a day.
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