Love the Debate Going on Over on ST RE: 2 X 20' FTP & Testing
Is it just me or does this stuff just make you laugh?
Love the sound advice Coach Rich offers.
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Is it just me or does this stuff just make you laugh?
Love the sound advice Coach Rich offers.
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Thanks for the props and for representing! I have a couple more thoughts I'll put up shortly.
it is good advice, but how will they know how awesome i am? i like the 60' test, as it lets me "give him the heat and announce my presence with authority"
signed,
DW
Posted!
Feel free to add your thoughts and experiences, as I bet no squad on the planet has more experience than EN with the concept of interval training, 2 x 20' and all the various variations we use here!
oh, yah and just for the record I did like 6x20' this morning at 103% and feel awesome...Probably do another 3x20' tonight just for fun.....Give me a break... Who are these people?.
You all know enough about power training and racing to know what is possible and what's not. You know when to call bullshit on someone describing a 4hr ride at 91% and they felt awesome, or put up 325 TSS in a 5:20 bike split and had a good run, or consistently pops out 20' intervals at 105%+ without describing them as very challenging. It's a sure sign that, at a minimum, they haven't accurately determined their FTP.
A lot of this argument over exact percentages would go away if (a) people were talking about the same, consistent test; and (b) they listened to Rich about remembering the "what works for you" factor.
If one method of test gives an answer 5% higher than another, then that starts to become significant in whether you can do 20 min at 105%.... Good grief. Accuracy and precision. They teach that in high school physics, boys and girls.
For the record, if R&P decide we need to do a 60' TT for FT test, I'm quitting! 2x20' is hard enough!
I don't understand why a grown, mature adult would every represent themselves as many in the internet world seem to enjoy doing, ie, being a dickhead because they can and can get away with it. It serves no purpose and I think it's at it's base a reflection of character.
Anyway...we don't need a thread about the flaws of other forums. We have a good thing here, done. Move along, nothing to see.
Man, I'd really like to cock-punch Paulo and "The Authority", though...just my final thought on the subject. Really turns me off to even visting their site anymore. My I.E. autolaunches the EN Dashboard every morning, and that's the way I likes it!
u are forgetting the importance of bragging rights on ST...
Not sure I get much out of ST.... Too much BS and I can't ferret through the bad stuff to get the couple of nuggets. Even in this discussion, there were couple of gems--such as FTP on hills vs flats.
Too many time I leave the site feeling like was back in high school--to many fricken cliques...
I agree with you, Rich. I pretty much don't say anything on there I wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm sure I made my share of sarcastic comments over the years but nothing outlandish and completely unwarranted. I'm sarcastic by nature so I can't help being sarcastic at times but I'm never mean about it.
I don't use my real name over there just because of what I do for a living but by the same token, many folks over there know what I do for a living and I try to conduct myself with some decorum as it could be a reflection on my employer if I went off spewing a bunch of bullshit vitriol on everyone. Not my style anyway.
I changed my name to my real name on ST about a year ago so I would think twice before posting some things. Not that I was talking crazy but because I just wanted to make sure a little more self-control measures were in place.
But I've found better advice and interaction on EN in the past 1+ years of being a member here.
My intention for starting this thread on EN was to basically point out how good we have it here. That thread I referenced has SO much bad information in it on a VERY simple topic. And that's par for the course over there.