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Changing paces in between tests?

I'm in week 6 of JanOS, and have for the last several weeks accomplished runs that were targeted @ TP at paces 10 -15 secs faster without HR blowing up.  I realize this is "progress" from 6 weeks of training -- but wonder if I should continue at the faster pace, or slow it down until my next run test.

my paces were set from an estimated vdot, i blew up on the run test at the start of OS so i guesstimated based on fitness level at the time.

my LTHR is approx 180, current TP is 8:55, and one workout this week was 4 x 800 and 1 x 1 mile, with these results:

1st 800 - pace 8:44, avg hr 168

2nd 800 - pace 8:40, avg hr 167

3rd 800 - pace 8:50, avg hr 169

4th 800 - pace 8:37, avg hr 170

1 mile - pace 8:42, avg hr 175

 

Comments

  • Any reason you just can't go out and run a 5k?
  • I could, sure.

    I guess my real question is ... should i keep using my old paces until the next scheduled test? Or make a change NOW- either by 5K test or running the TP intervals at the faster pace that i have been seeing.

    Put another way -- is there a downside to bumping up pace "too quickly" / is it an EN principle "not" to 'skip ahead' and stay the course until the plan says to make a change?

     

  • John - just test and move on -- I don't know of a downside to bumping up 'too quickly'. If you earn a VDOT, you earn the right to train at higher paces.
  • John,

    We encourage you to manage your training in real time but not follow a plan into a brick wall. My own personal guiding mantra is "how is what I'm doing NOW going to affect my downstream workouts?" So while my T-pace might be 7:00-:05, I would frequently do mile repeats at 6:40-45 because I know myself and know how to manage my training week very well. Basically, I prefer to adjust paces frequently according to how I feel that day vs doing formal tests. I also tend to run courses vs intervals: I have a couple hilly routes with historical benchmarks and I run/race against those benchmarks vs a prescribed pace.

    In short, fine to adjust things up in real time but don't follow your new plan into a brick wall. Always think about downstream sessions.

  • Early tests are important if you think you're way off, and are seriously undertraining as a result.

    You're running 8:45's off of an estimated TP of 8:55. Well within the range of error. No need to re-test, unless those intervals are just feeling way too easy. The training effect of running 2 x 1mi at 8:45 and 8:55 is just not that different, and certainly not something worth worrying about.

    If you were running 8:20's and feeling good, then I'd say it's time to re-test.
  • @Rich - agree on the brick wall.  Thing is, is that I've been running these quicker paces for 2-3 weeks w/o impacting subsequent workouts, so that led me to asking the initial question.

    @Mike - that makes sense. I'm not running 8:20s so at 8:45 I'm within the range I should be in. 

    appreciate the feedback.

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