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Garmin Edge 500 power metrics (NP/IF/TSS) finally released

GMAN 19030GMAN 19030
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Several months behind schedule but it's finally here.

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2012/05/garmin-releases-edge-500-update-adds.html

Apparently Garmin Connect will show the new metrics so that means arriverderci to WKO+ for me.  Good riddance says this Mac guy. 

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  • GMAN 19030GMAN 19030
    And still no update for the 910 but hopefully coming soon.
  • darren.wrigleydarren.wrigley
    this is great - just in time for my HIM in a few weeks.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    Just updated mine. Used the webupdater software. Update went smoothly.
  • steveperxsteveperx

     You're all very welcome.  I finally got tired of waiting for this upgrade so I could buy a 500... So, I pulled the trigger on the 800 on Saturday.  It figures they'd release the 500 update right after that.

  • tim cronktim cronk
    Just got mine updated. I had some issues and had to do it twice. After the first time the 500 would only display the word Garmin. Seems to be working now and will try it tomorrow. Tomorrow will also be first day with my newly replace Quarq (my 3rd one) hope this one works. Another upside to using the Garmin 500 is I can dump all the sensors on the crank, frame, and wheel that are needed with the JOULE.
  • tuckermtuckerm
    Updated. No issues. Quick hour ride. Np and if all good. Loved having metrics in my face.
  • John WithrowJohn Withrow
    How do you update your FTP on the Edge 500?
  • GMAN 19030GMAN 19030
    It's under Settings>Bike Settings>Bike>Power Zones

    You can also do it through Garmin Connect.
  • tuckermtuckerm
    Ok so first ride in the books and seems like everything is not synching perfectly for me. Now maybe my FTP is set differently in Training Peaks vs my Edge 500, but I'm talking 5w here, but my data isn't matching. NP off by like 20w. IF off by about .07. Anyone else having any issues? I haven't downloaded to WKO or Garmin Connect yet, just training peaks website.
  • tim cronktim cronk
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/182656112

    My first ride with update. Used Joule as back up. All my AP/NP interval numbers match up almost perfect . Total AP was off by 7 watts and total NP was off by 3 watts. IF was off .789 vs .805. TSS was 248.3 vs 246.1... So close enough for me! My 3rd new Quarq seemed to work well today and had an awesome ride with exception of a flat in the last hour!

    My only complaint would be in the view splits section of the laps data IF TSS is not available it only shows the totals on the main page. I did not have this displayed while riding so I wonder if you have to have it on the display for it to be in the splits?

    @Tucker early on in my ride I did notice my NP was about 15 watts off from the Joule to the Garmin so I was really surprised at how close they were at the end of the day.
  • robin sarnerrobin sarner

    updated.   now wife's powertap pro+ having problems.      Calibration no longer can be done.    and the "auto zero" disappeared.        ideas?

  • bkcomiskeybkcomiskey
    I did the firmware update on Thurs and have been able to ride three times since then. I like my Garmin Connect numbers better than WKO+ since the update. Today's ride:

    WKO 4:04 time / 80.1 distance / 19.9 mph / 212 AP / 223 NP / 232 TSS
    Garmin: 3:58 time / 80.1 distance / 20.1 mph / 223 AP / 232 NP / 229 TSS

    My initial thoughts are the differences would be related to auto-pause and non-zero data and how they are treated. I would think that since TSS and NP are proprietary from Training Peaks, the numbers would be a bit closer.
  • William JenksWilliam Jenks
    @ Brian

    I don't have this update (or a Garmin 500 for that matter), but I find that the choice of NZAP propagates through all the Garmin calculations...In other words, if you use NZAP on the computer, it shows up that way on GTC and Garmin Connect too. I understand why they might do this, but it seems like lazy programming...they could give AP and NZAP easily enough on both of those formats.

    In any case, it would not surprise me if you were right. Try making sure the Garmin is set for AP (not NZAP) and see if you get closer numbers.
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