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Do you really pee on the bike??

OK, time for a TMI discussion....

I somehow have avoided this problem before. I don't know how. I've done two IMs and multiple halfs, and I think that I just held it until I hit transition everytime. It probably means that I'm not drinking enough on the ride. I did a HIM this past weekend, drank alot more fluid (trying to build that up), and was literally exploding when I hit T2. I was only 4 females back from the leader, so I really didn't want to stop while on the bike course to pee. I did run into the porta-john on my way out of T2, and I kid you not, I peed for 25 seconds straight.

So, the question to you ladies is....do you pee on your bike? If so....HOW??? I actually tried to make myself "go" around mile 30 of the bike, but um....it didn't want to happen. Even though I for sure needed to.

Any feedback is welcome!

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  • Hahaha! I LOVE this discussion!

    Yes, I do pee on the bike. Not b/c I'm racing my way to a Kona slot, but b/c I have to pee a LOT and it just didn't seem worthwhile to stop every half hour and get off my bike to do it! I actually lost about a half hour at IMLou stopping at every aid station to refill my water (didn't want to do it on the fly after getting clipped and knocked over at the HIM I did before IMLou, so I stopped - then my BSN bag was lost, and finding it cost another 10 minutes... So peeing on the bike didn't save time necessarily, but if I had been stopping to pee in addition to all that other stuff I don't want to know what my bike split would have been!).

    I just wait for a nice downhill section of the course, lilt myself out of the saddle just a little, and go - once the floodgates are open, they're open! Then rinse off with some water and keep moving. I actually practiced this in training. Gross, yes - but it's a skill! ;-)
  • Oh how I wish I could learn to do this! I can't pee during the swim or on the bike. I've even tried drinking a LOT of water before a weekend ride to make sure I had a full bladder and then rode in an area with no place to stop. Still couldn't get myself to relax enough to let it go (that was a painful ride!). It's a mental thing for sure.
  • For IMTX a few weeks ago, I needed to pee about 30 miles into the bike. I got off, waited in line at the porta potty for a few minutes, did my business, used the hand sanitizer, re-applied sunscreen...and realized that I was losing a lot of time! The next two times I just went on the bike, but it feels yucky and I'm always looking around making sure no one knows what I am doing! The last time I came upon an empty porta potty, jumped off, used it, and was back on the road in under a minute. If I was just going to pee once I would probably get off and go, but for multiple times I would just go on the bike again!
  • I definitely pee on the bike, after losing almost 10 minutes at IMFL to porta-potty stops. I taught myself to do it in practice, and I have now used this technique in HIM races. I am frequently on the podium at HIM distance, so it makes enough of a difference for me to do it even though I'd prefer not to. However, it makes your saddle and bike shoes ungodly stinky afterwards. A good pet odor removal product helps.

    The trick is really to relax *everything* down there, which is tough and always makes me a bit nervous to tell the truth. and yes, I just pee in my shorts. It's no different than starting the bike off with wet shorts I figure. And I cover everything important beneath the shorts with Chamois Butt'r beforehand to stop any chafing for any reason.

     

  • I finally peed at my 4th IM in Regensburg last year. I wanted to try it for a long time, but couldn't make me do it because I just couldn't find a chance to do it while no one was around. (do we really get penalty if officials see it?) This time, a young guy I was kind of riding together for a while peed right in front of me like three times, so I said, screw it, I would pee, too. Just off the saddle and peed into my shorts. It was raining and I also sprayed water afterwards, so I didn't think it would be bad... but after the race back in the hotel room, my shoes/helmet (stupid I put them together in a plastic bag after the race) smelled horrendous. I was washing them until 1:30am in the bathroom (x 2 to wash husband's shoes & helmet, worse than mine because he peed 7 times.)

    I am not sure if I would ever want to pee again, but then, I don't want to wait in line to waste my time either...
  • Thanks for the feedback, ladies. I agree that if I come across an empty porta-potty, I can probably be off/on the bike and take care of business super quick, but it's the stress of having to FIND one that irritates me. I guess I'll have to see what happens. The funny thing is that you never hear of or see any pros going on the bike, but you know they have to, since they're not about to stop in T2 to go, right? I wonder if they go while running, too? The things no one wants to talk about....
    :-)
  • Kori - read Chrissie's book (A Life Without Limits). She talks about peeing on the bike and run - cracks me up - says if someone gets too close to the draft zone she'll "fire off a warning shot!" I know a couple of elites who will go in T1/T2 as they're squatting to get out of their wetsuit/change shoes, whatever - they just go through their kit and hope they don't get it on their gear!!! I swear I have the world's weakest bladder and I do it out of necessity! I can't even get aero if I have to go - it's too uncomfortable!

    And yeah - the girls are right - it smells BAD. Especially in the shoes. I always take a couple of plastic bags with me to put my stuff in to bring home, then soak my shoes in water and Clorox after a race. That helps... And hose off the bike afterward (and never, ever, ever tell your mechanic that you pee on your bike. Ever. ;-)

    @Lynn - yep, just go through the shorts - no moving anything out of the way!

    AND - if this hit your e-mail as a post from John and then again from me - whoops - sorry! Forgot to log him out... a little problem we're having now that we're both on EN!
  • I've never done it, but John has and does. I'll be working on this skill soon. One thing. . . .after John started doing it, his shoes stunk to high heaven. They had to live in the garage. I found this spray that got the smell out - Febreeze Sport. This stuff is AMAZING!

    http://www.amazon.com/Febreze-Fabric-Refresher-Energy-18-5-Ounce/dp/B002C88J1K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338988801&sr=8-1
  • This is how it's done on the run: Paula Radcliffe peeing while on the way to winning the London marathon...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6I2-YP42rs

  • I definitely pee on both the bike and the run. Had to practice, but once I started, I've never looked back. Will say, did a HIM where the swim was canceled...didn't pee on either the bike or run that day, and I lost about 15 min to bathroom waits, etc. won't do that again.
  • The best time to practice is a rainy training ride or run. I was amazed at how much easier it was to pee when running v biking. On the bike, especially a relatively flat course, there is almost never a time when it's easy enough to relax because you are on the move.
  • Oh hell yeah :-) Same as everyone else, once I realised how much hassle it was and how much time I lost, I just had to try! The tip I heard was try to find a flat/downhill section so you can (somewhat) slack off the pressure and if possible dump a bottle of water over you ASAP just to wash things down :-) It takes practise for sure but well worth it!
  • WOW - glad I saw all of these posts! I've tried and tried and can't seem to pee on the bike. Never tried on the run because there always seem to be plenty of port-a-potties around. I'm really going to work on this:-) Great posts ladies!
  • I was reading a sample of Chrissy Wellington's book. She said that application of A LOT of vaseline is very important so that you don't have problems chafing.
  • Hmmm, I've never done it either and find it hard to do even while swimming but I may give it a try on my race rehersal (if nature calls) this weekend....
  • While a grown woman peeing on herself after a night of partying is pathetic and disgusting, peeing on myself during a race is a relief... and admittedly kind of gross. Here is another disclosure. Since I sit down to put on my shoes in T2, I usually pee then too, just to make sure I am empty to start the run. This is only when T2 is in a field, usually every HIM and Vineman this year. Otherwise I pee in the last few miles of the bike. It takes practice, but some folks just can't. Don't beat yourself up.
  • I have been trying and trying to pee on the bike!!!!! I lost 14 minutes at IMFL last fall between portapot and bsn stops! It is on my list again this year. I've gotten all kinds of advice. My team mate says if I can pee in the shower and in the swim (yes to both) I should be golden. Pun intended! image

    I have a male friend who pees on the bike and run, and a female friend (my kona crush!) who pees in T2 in the grass or while running to get her gear (no socks!) on the bike and run if need be. Skills I'll use to get to my pr goals this year if I can manage!
  •  Tee hee... reminds me of Chrissie Wellington's book, she says she pees on anyone who gets too close to her bike. 

  • I can't do it. God knows I have tried! Before my first IM I rode around my neighborhood with a full bladder trying to pee on my bike. My body will not let it go! Conversely, I see m to pee unintentionally on the run all the time! Not to mention when sneezing, jumping rope, etc. Ah the joys of womanhood post-babies!
  •  Gah! I feel exactly the same, and I haven't even had kids! Don't even get me started on the time we went "trampolining"!

  • LMAO @ Julia. I am 51, 3 kids and I can pee when I sneeze/cough etc. But I cant pee when I swim, bike or run. I only have one 70.3 under my belt (Poconos) and the need never arose. I can hold it when I need to but I really never felt like I needed to go during that race. But I know at some point I will have to and I want to learn how. I need to practice once I get outdoors on the bike this Spring (when Im by myself). Not something Im looking forward to but...image

    I did learn a very tough lesson at the Philly half marathon in Nov. If you have to go #2 before the race, dont procrastinate and say "I can hold it"...um no. image
  • You all are making me laugh (I've been there!) Trampolines are definitely a thing of the past. Maureen, I'm sorry about your marathon!!!
  • Hey all! A few comments, questions, and concerns here.
    First, prior to doing my first half iron distance tri, I thought this concept was absurd! In no way did I think that this action of peeing on yourself was ok...it just seemed wrong in all sense of body function, self hygiene, and self respect. Then, I did my first half ironman and I had to pee. I actually just peed on myself in transition, which is probably the worst place to go because the puddle next to my spot in T2 just screamed "this lady just peed here" but I saw no other option at the time. So now I see, we need to do what we need to do and that sometimes means - pee on ourselves during a race.

    I have yet to actually practice this "skill" and haven't even thought of trying it while actually cycling or running. How do you gals do it, do you have to push very hard? I would imagine you do if you keep your legs moving.

    I'm definitely concerned with the amount of push that may be involved... in addition to those of you who say you leak unintentionally, provoked with a tramp, sneeze, cough, or not! None of that is normal. No one should be ok with the fact that they leak unintentionally, ever. I am a physical therapist who treats pelvic floor dysfunctions and the majority of what I see are women seeking help for their stress/urge/mixed incontinence who may or may not also have some sort of pelvic organ prolapse. If you're a female triathlete who pees while competing/training on the bike or run, be careful with how you do it and don't strain or push. If you already leak unintentionally, you may want to chat with your PCP or GYN about it, and potentially seek a referral to a PT who specializes in pelvic floor rehab to improve the stability and control of your pelvic floor muscles to prevent continued or progressed leakage/prolapse.

  • @ Jessie - You make a great point. In my case, there is zero stressing/straining/pushing involved. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Most people (men AND women) who pee on the bike wait until there's a nice downhill so there's no need to pedal, then lift a little out of the saddle so the pressure is off, and - in my case, anyway - relax! Relaxing is key! Yes, it's hard to get over the social norms that force your brain to tell your body, "this is NOT o.k.!" but it happens eventually!

    Regarding SUI (stressed urinary incontinence), no, of course it's not normal (and I'm sure none of us enjoy living with it), and yes, your point that "pushing" will increase pelvic floor instability is 100% valid. I'm an occupational therapist and no stranger to pelvic floor exercises, biofeedback, and behavioral modification/bladder training. After my second was born (BOTH via C-section, believe it or not - #2 was positioned in a way that he put a LOT of stress on my pelvic floor), I did PFE's religiously. Did my own bladder training. Nothing worked. I finally talked to my OB-GYN and followed up with a well respected Uro-GYN. I learned that my urethra is hypermobile because a ligament that supports it is completely TORN (either the periurethral or pubourethral - not sure which as Uro-GYN didn't tell me!). No amount of therapeutic exercise will fix that. My only option at the time - this was almost 4 years ago - was a urethral sling. I never had the sling placed because I wouldn't be able to lift anything over 10lbs for 4-6 weeks after, and my youngest was still a baby. I was picking him up and lifting him in and out of things all day long! So I waited. And now... every time I turn around I see a commercial on TV for women who have been harmed in some way by the mesh of urethral slings! SO! What to do! ;-)

    This is getting way off topic, but I wanted to add to your comment... yes, it SUCKS to live with (especially for those of us who had that coughing bug that's been going around!), but, hey, it's not life-threatening, and when it comes down to it, it's little more than an inconvenience and inability to take a Rebounding class at the gym (forget that... I can't even do a jumping jack!). BUT, for those who do intend to do something about it, and find that conservative treatment isn't cutting it, it's very possible that it's not you - it's your urethra - and a consult with a good Urogynecologist is in order.

    Finally - I do NOT recommend attempting peeing on the bike in full length cycling pants! Wait until the weather is warmer and you have shorts on if you're going to try it! (Don't ask... you probably don't want to know!)
  • Jess - Thanks for your comment and sharing your story! Urethral hypermobility is a common finding in patients with SUI, but it's not always due to a complete tear. Surgery is the only option to correct your situation, and yes, many people have had complications, but a lot of people have been successful too. There are still the lifting and activity restrictions until the tissue heals, so all considered yeah that's a tough decision to make! I would encourage you to continue with your strengthening exercises to at least maintain your current strength and prevent future weakening, as about 80% of people with SUI present with pelvic floor muscle weakness. You wouldn't believe the amount of people I see who have had 20+ years of leakage, thought it was normal (for whatever reason), and at some point along the way, their symptoms get progressively worse.

    So for everyone, follow Jess's example by getting everything checked out (if your haven't already), and chat with your Dr. about potential need for a PT referral. You can talk to your PT about urethral mobility too, as he/she should be able to assess this with the exam.

    In the mean time, I'll let you all know if I decide to go for it and try peeing on my bike! image

  • See my comment above from June. No effort and I find it easier during the run than the bike- weird.
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