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 While I have always enjoyed and admired Lucho's endurance exploits, I believe his IM training plan would kill a mere mortal like me.

 

My staple workouts for Ironman.

 

A while back a friend of mine, Josh, said he would love to hear my thoughts on 3 workouts that I feel are important in the swim/ bike/ run for Ironman. Here they are. Nothing profound. Training gets complicated only when you include the need to execute it. Most athletes know what it takes... but aren't willing to DO what it takes.

  Josh, by the way, DID do what it took when he became an Ironman age-group national champion and earned a Kona slot.

 

Swim.

 I taught myself how to swim in 1995 and was never a great swimmer, but I was able to swim 52:00 at Ironman off of less than 20k per week. I never swam Masters because I was more interested in getting the shit done rather than doing math.

 

BAND. This is where you wrap a band around your ankles and pull with paddles. Start with a buoy and then get strong enough to not need it. Ironman is about strength. 

 

6-10 X 500. Any athlete of mine will recognize this session. I did this same set 4 days a week for years. Again, get in... do the work and then get out.

This was broken in to:

500 pull easy warm-up.

5 X 100 at faster than T-pace on 20" rest.

500 pull at T-pace. Repeat as many times as possible.

 I would also often do the 5 X 100 as a kick set trying to hold sub 1:30 pace on each. I would sometimes accumulate 1500 total kick in a workout. My thought on this, especially for a non-wetsuit swim is that what you do first matters most last. If you suck at kicking and have to kick in the swim then it's going to hurt your run.

 

Drills. If you swim a crap load but can't swim fast then your form is off. I always kept it simple with basic Total Immersion stuff. No need to over think drill work. If your form sucks then basic drills work. I swam 59:00 in 2000 and then over the winter I did a 2 month complete (meaning 100%) drill focus. I didn't swim a single length of free for 8 weeks... I then swan 54:00 in my first race of 2001. If you have a weakness then do what it takes to correct it. That doesn't mean do what you like... but do what's right.

 

 

Bike.

 

"ME" or muscle endurance. This is essentially riding (preferably uphill) in the biggest gear you can push with a very low cadence. Having lifted weights diligently for years I was somewhat strong at these. On the Computrainer I could hold ~400 watts and on the road I could push close to that. I would get my cadence down in to the 20-30 rev range. Later on I realized that I pushed the cadence too low and would have been better served with 50-60 revs at a higher HR/ intensity and lower wattage to work more of a metabolic aspect.

 

Long Tempo. And I mean LONG. My staple specific rides were 5 X 1:00 (hour) at tempo effort. Back in 2000 leading up to Kona I did two 120 mile long tempo efforts with my Powertap (yes, they made them back then) holding ~230-240 watts. This is a long tempo. I rode 4:50 that year in horrible conditions.

 

Early season Threshold. In January-February I always did a fairly huge run focus so I would only ride ~10 hours or so a week. I started training with power back in 2000 and one of my goals was always to push my FTP higher. I would start with a Conconi Test and then ride 2 X week sessions that targeted FTP. Something like 4 X 5:00 at FTP (+/-10 watts) to start, not that hard at all. But I would build on to that session every time. So maybe 4 X 7:00, then 4 X 9:00...etc. Then as the weather became nicer I would gravitate away from this to longer efforts outside. If you live in a cold climate and have an Ironman focus in October then why build your base in January 10 months out? Focus on shorter, power sessions inside when it's blowing snow outside, then ride long once the weather gets nice. Use this time for a solid run focus.

 

Run.

 

20" per mile faster than goal pace off the bike. My goal pace was always 6:30 per mile at Ironman. So any time I ran off the bike I would target ~6:00-6:10 pace (which at the time was my MAF HR 140-150). My staple long brick was ~5 hours on the bike with a majority at goal race effort followed by 9 miles at 6:10 pace. My number one regret has always been that I did too much too hard so it wasn't uncommon at all for me to roll through this 9 miles pushing way too hard (I looked back and saw a couple of sub 52:00 runs for this session) Stupid. Harder/ faster is not better here. Be disciplined and run no faster than 20" per mile than goal pace... if you feel good enough to run faster then run longer!

 

Long run. I almost always did a ~17 mile long tempo/ hill run on Tuesday and then a long 'easy' run on Sunday. I would do a long run of run 20+ miles almost every single week from December to September. I read somewhere one time that you need 20 runs of 20+ miles before an 'A' Ironman and I believe this. Particularly if you are not a runner. If you want to be a good runner then act like it. Remember that there is absolutely a direct correlation between volume and results across all three disciplines. If you want to run well at Ironman then there should be a certain amount of  'pure runner' mentality here. Again, this doesn't mean do what you like but do what's right.

 

Tempo. I never neglected this and I never will. I still feel that this run should always have a front row seat regardless of your racing focus whether it be sprint triathlon or 100 mile runs. I would go as far as to say that this run, for a seasoned runner, is more important than a long run. They make you strong not only physically, but MOST importantly mentally! If you aren't strong mentally then you will not run well at Ironman... guaranteed across the board 100% of the time. Start with just 3 miles at Z3/4 effort and incrementally build on to it. There is no real limit. And duration and intensity have an inverse relationship. If you run 3 miles then run at threshold... if you run 18 miles then run 5-10 beats above MAF.

Comments

  • Been listening to EP for a while and appreciate his thoughts. He is the first to admit his own traing was way too much during his IM career. That said, I think the stuff above is consistent with what he would suggest to his athletes today.
  • It has been fascinating following Lucho during his career.



    Dude puts it out there, admits he's a head case, collapses or conquers as the day allows.

  • Maybe it's just the cynic in me, or maybe I'm just getting old. But nothing about reading these workouts makes me excited to do an Ironman. All of the work listed is serious stuff. Stuff that it takes years to build up to and all of which kind of misses the point: it doesn't matter how fit you are, it's all about race execution. But I guess there's something to be said for living and training with your heart under sleeve and giving your best every single day. I guess some would say that I'm hedging my bets by doing what I know I can do every day and then trying to raise to my best on THAT day. I guess that's the coolest part of our sport, there are so many different ways to train and get ready and excel.
  • Let's be honest - this is a dude who does not lead the life most of us do. He does this stuff not only because he wants to, but because he CAN. Most of us don't have the time or the genetics to put up with this. I honestly wish I knew how much I could learn from someone who did sub-FTP workouts at 400 W. But I don't. That said, it can be fun to follow someone like this...I just don't see any reason to try to be like him.

    For the record, I try to listen to EP once in a while, and it just kills me a lot of the time. And awful lot of just pulling "facts" out of the air that are obviously made up or just opinions, followed by the interviewer/host saying "definitely..." (And she apparently coaches people?!?) So much completely off-center scientific speculation, followed in the next paragraph by something that DOES have basis in reality... a naive listener would never know.... and there are many things I have no idea if they make any sense. I did enjoy the Brad Culp sessions (even if they also had a few too many "definitely"), but they appear to have gone to almost zero now (sorry. venting over now)
  • For those of us who don't follow EP, who is this guy?

    And William, EP lost me when they started referring to Brad Culp as some sort of expert. The guy single-handedly destroyed Triathlete Magazine. Just a big bag of wind.
  • Mike, I provided his link in my initial post. He lives frugally and simply up in the mountains somewhat close to the Leadville area and, for me at least, has an interesting perspective on training, fishing, life and beer drinking while continuing forward as a successful endurance athlete.

    P.S I really use to enjoy Endurance Planet when Kevin Patrick was the host and looked forward each week to putting the latest installment on my ipod before a run. Now I am back to running without either an ipod or Endurance Planet - just me and my thoughts- the way I like it after 35 years of running.
  • Yeah, he's a bit of a windbag, but at least when he was doing the show regularly he would know who was racing where, etc etc, and I would enjoy that aspect of it. Didn't take the predictions too seriously...any more than 99% of what passes for sports talk.

    Yes, Kevin Patrick really WAS EP. I have no specific knowledge at all about it, but it felt like he kind of got drawn in by BG, and then soured quickly on it and got out fast. I am totally speculating, but that's how it felt to me. (For a brief time, he had "retired from owning it" but was still appearing. I don't remember all the details.)
  • Al, thanks. I looked around his blog, and didn't really find an 'about me' sort of section. Seems like he's someone who's known on ST, but otherwise only comes up on EP links in a search. Didn't know if he's someone I should know about for some other reason.

    William and Al, I totally agree about Kevin Patrick! And about not running to podcasts anymore.
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