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Jan OS Week 8 Training

Monday: 

Hey everybody!!!  wow we have been together for 7 weeks now!!  I feel like I know a bit more about Iowa!!  compared to warm California, I have been snow skiing and cross country skiing, ran inside on treadmills and indoor tracks and followed the lives of many dogs!   all of course vicariously through you!!  many medical people working long hours and trying to avoid getting sick!, fast people getting the job done as well as Moms fitting it in with scouting and the like!!  work, family, vacations, sickness and stress all in the last 7 weeks, way cool!!  

 

so if you have been "lurking" or have not checked in, welcome to week 8!!!  we wanna hear from you.  just a quick Hey! to know that you are doing okay will suffice and more info welcome too.  personally I love to see the scenery of where you live!!! and anything else you wann share....  some of you have some fine cockpit like pain caves happening!!

 

This is my last week before Guatemala this Saturday!!! so I will be "catch as catch can" and when weather permits, out there training!!  knowing I will not be next week!  I note weather in the mid 40's so it is warming down here!

 

HAPPY MONDAY!

 

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  •  Good morning everyone!  As you all know, I'm several weeks behind you so I'm not testing this week.  But I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing the results from YOUR tests!  I can feel a good week comin!

  • @Marianne U rock. Are you vacationing in Guatemala? I'm sure the climate will be a little warmer than 40 down there.
    I saw on twitter last night another Iowan just joined EN. I think there is 3 or 4 of us now.
  • Welcome to week 8 everyone!  It's been a good ride so far - you guys are an awesome, inspiring and fun group.

    Well, I'll be the first to publish my FTP test...

    Week 1 FTP test:

    • FTP: 271
    • Weight: 182.2
    • w/kg: 3.3
    • LTHR: 171

    Week 8 FTP test:

    • FTP: 299
    • Weight: 172.6
    • w/kg: 3.8
    • LTHR: 166

    10% gain in FTP and 16% gain in w/kg in 7 weeks - I love the OS!

    For the data geeks:

    1st 20’: 299

    2’ recovery: ~60% FTP

    2nd 20’: 305

    42' FTP Test:


                Duration:        42:04
                Work:               744 kJ
                TSS:                  85.2 (intensity factor 1.102)
                Norm Power:   299
                VI:                    1.01
                Pw:HR:             1.04%
                Pa:HR:             2.98%
                Distance:        15.747 mi
                                         Min      Max     Avg
                Power:             0          458      295      watts
                Heart Rate:     127      178      166      bpm
                Cadence:         63        139      93        rpm
                Speed:             16.2     26.1     22.4     mph

    Yes, 1 watt from 300 but who cares!  When it's that close I consider myself at 300 anyway.  I was pretty conservative pacing the first 5-10 minutes so that may account for that 1 watt.  But it may have also allowed me to hammer the end.  The way I approach 2 x 20's is to break them down into 5' segments, trying to increase watts for each 5' segment.  I was happy with my results to this approach for today's test:

    Interval #1:

    1st 5’: 287

    2nd 5’: 296

    3rd 5’: 300

    4th 5’: 312

    Interval #2:

    1st 5’: 291

    2nd 5’: 300

    3rd 5’: 308

    4th 5’: 317

    Legs are still shaking.  Hope everyone else's tests went well.  Let's see some numbers!

  • Jim- that's 300! You executed that 2x20 Test simply perfectly! I'm so thrilled for you!!!
  • Thanks Nemo. BTW, I know it's a couple days late but HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
  • Jim you rocked it awesome! Nice work.

    I changed my bike position pretty radically about 10 days ago my previous FTP was 290 today 293 which I really can't complain about my watts are still up some. I'm still adjusting to this new position and hadn't seen numbers anything like this yet most intervals were in the 270 range. In the spirit of the Jan OS powerhouse Jim, I broke it down into 5 minute segments. It might not have been perfect execution but all things considered; but, I'm still learning this and I got it done! Suffered and acclimated to a new position and most likely got even stronger. I must admit I saw Jim's #'s and wanted to chase that down but it was not in the cards today. (I'm coming for you Ricky Bobby image )
    Weight has been a solid 170 plus or minus 2 lbs.

    1 .303
    2. 296
    3. 297
    4. 303

    1. 297
    2. 290
    3. 296
    4. 291
    FTP Test Week 8:
    Duration: 42:01
    Work: 730 kJ
    TSS: 71.6 (intensity factor 1.011)
    Norm Power: 293
    VI: 1.01
    Pw:HR: n/a
    Pa:HR: n/a
    Distance: 21.512 mi
    Min Max Avg
    Power: 0 409 289 watts
    Cadence: 55 144 91 rpm
    Speed: 4.5 35.5 30.8 mph
    Pace 1:41 13:25 1:57 min/mi
    Crank Torque: 0 425 270 lb-in
  • "I'm coming for you Ricky Bobby" HILARIOUS!

    Good job boys, I'm debating whether to do this on the trainer or outdoors, it's forecast for rain all week but DON'T want to do this FTT on the trainer image I know, I'm lucky to even have the possibility of the option!
  • Jim- Way to go! I like your approach to testing. Huge gains in 8 weeks. That is something you need to make sure that you post in the data tool for EVERYONE to see. Way to go!
    No testing for me as I just finished Power Clinic and had to test last week for that. So taking this as a rest week.

    Keep the numbers coming! Can't wait to see everyone else.
  • Great test Dan and Jim.

    I completed a vdot test with my skitzophrenic OS plan (week 17 bike, week 8 run).  I had an idiot moment today and hit the stop button after my first lap so had to use the treadmill time minus a 0.1 mile that I had used to get to 1% and up to speed.  Long story short I did a 28:25 for a new vdot of 33 up from 29. 

    I felt that I still had another 25 seconds or so faster.  I just underestimated my gains in fitness and the benefit of losing 8lbs since the last test.

    Gordon

  • nice job gordon amazing how much easier it feels when you are lighter and lighter
  • Dan- even just holding perfectly steady after swapping out your fit is awesome. I'm sure there will be more to come for you as you get used to the new position!

    Gordon- NICE V-dot bump!!! You are coming back strong!
  • @Dan - I'm in awe! I know how frustrated you were last week after the radical bike fit changes and to see you hit 293 watts after what you were reporting last week is very impressive! I can only imagine how deep you had to dig to pull out that result - very studly indeed!!! This friendly little competition of ours is fun - your ability has motivated me during these intervals more times than I can count - thanks! Now if I could just speed up my running ramp up we could be chasing each other there, too.

    @Gordon - way to go on the new Vdot and the associated weight loss. The more those lbs come off the faster you're going to get baby! Keep both of those numbers going in the right direction, especially the weight - that's "free speed".
  • Posted By Gordon Cherwoniak on 22 Feb 2010 01:00 PM

    Great test Dan and Jim.

    I completed a vdot test with my skitzophrenic OS plan (week 17 bike, week 8 run).  I had an idiot moment today and hit the stop button after my first lap so had to use the treadmill time minus a 0.1 mile that I had used to get to 1% and up to speed.  Long story short I did a 28:25 for a new vdot of 33 up from 29. 

    I felt that I still had another 25 seconds or so faster.  I just underestimated my gains in fitness and the benefit of losing 8lbs since the last test.

    Gordon





     

    4 pts is massive Gordon!  So happy for you - you've earned this bro!  Work, works!!

    SS

     

  • Posted By Jim Hansen on 22 Feb 2010 09:42 AM

    Week 1 FTP test:

    • FTP: 271
    • Weight: 182.2
    • w/kg: 3.3
    • LTHR: 171

    Week 8 FTP test:

    • FTP: 299
    • Weight: 172.6
    • w/kg: 3.8
    • LTHR: 166
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    Jim, just an amazing job in 8 weeks - way to raise the bar and lead the team bro!



     

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    Hi Gang,

    Test week !!!! Wow, I was nervous all day for this. I wasn't smart either yesterday and had the worst food and even wine !! I told myself to just do it and deal with it. Pain or not to complete it and do my best at it. I was also saying to myself that tomorrow is a rest day before wed run test and that it will be fine if i'm trashed. Lots of self talk all day.

    @Nemo. What you said about FTP tests really hit the nail for me. Thanks so much for giving your input all the time on this forum. Jan OS is lucky to have you ! and btw, Happy belated Birthday !! I hope you had a great day!!

    Anyway, back to my test i did make an ajustment to my seat and moved it back .5 inch. I seem to be able to get some more juice this way. And I don't know if it helped at all today but I also change from tri-shoes to my road shoes..

    He're are the results :

    FTP at beginning of OS Jan: 185

    FTP test 2/22/10:                     193 

    I am very pleased with this. I"m getting close to the 200 mark . I know that I can achieve it and beyond. Good luck to everybody on their test ! I can't wait to hear about your results !!

     

     Entire workout (193 watts):

     Duration:   42:26

     Work:       490 kJ

     rTSS:        475.7 (2.477)

     NGP: 3:38 (443.0 m/min)

     VI:         1.01

     Pw:HR:       n/a

     Pa:HR:       n/a

     Distance:   11.645 mi

      Min Max Avg

     Power:        0 271 193  watts

     Cadence:      38 118 70  rpm

     Speed:        3:04 0:00 3:39  min/mi

     Hub Torque:   0 115 77  lb-in

     Crank Torque: 0 378 236  lb-in

  • AWESOME NAT! You'll be closing in on 200 in no time!
  • great job everyone!

    my ergomo does not want to download!  "device not recognized".  sucks.  i am sooooo tired of ergomo.  this happened once before and i needed a new download cable.  it was a pain to order.

    anyway, looked like i was around the same as january, FT of 240.  probably was going to be like 242 or something like that, but that's fine since i have only been following the OS on the bike for 2 weeks now.  i will leave my FT at 240 for now, but will keep an eye on the numbers to make sure i am not undershooting over the next few weeks.

    entire ride: TSS 166; IF 1.144; NP 218; 22.33 miles total distance;

    i think i am just going to keep on training this week and no more tests.  the vdot on the run is not going to change much with two weeks of consistent OS so far under my belt, so better keep progressing.  i have  5km race at the end of march, so will use that as my next Vdot test.

    gilberto

     

  • A great FTP test: I used Jim's example of pacing and had my best executed test ever.

    Week 1 test: 195
    Week 8 test: 209 Yahoo!

    I raced IM Florida at 230 last year; I'm shooting for 240 this year. On my way!
  • Woot Woot! Way to go Bill!!!
  • going on a mission trip to Guatemala (www.1year2ironman5.blogspot.com = look on right) with my 2nd son, a HS senior. yes it will be warmer!!! lots of errands for me today and out the door again, congrats to everybody though!!! nice work. I ran with the dog this morning, natch.... and nasty outside so we had the trail to ourselves so he ran leash free through the fields and I sang OUT LOUD to my IPOD!!! from Hosanna to Early in the Morning!! and kept checking behind me to make sure nobody was out!!! they weren't!!! was excited to run 3.5 without piriformis hurting!!! so right now I can run 3 slow miles!!! and I am happy... I did pick up and do 4 sprints of 1/10 mile, this time I had my Garmin and me and the dog race at this part of the sidewalk, trail!! he wins of course and I can only get a headstart on him but turning quickly and doing a U turn and running back!! one way was slight uphill and headwind.... anyways, last week I tried those and I could feel my quad seizing up but today it all felt good! something about getting hot out in the cold, is so cool! anyways I had not run in about 4 - 5 days actually..... and had on my new running shoes and no layers to speak of, as it was 37... so just tights and two tops!! wow without 5lbs of gear... can't wait for it to get warmer... it was 41 today but so damp it was cold... you know what I mean???

    okay sorry guyz, one run on sentence... I should use bullets huh?? and to the girls, of course my mind was multi tasking when I was writing and I gotta scoot and pick up son from bball and also get gas on the way.... so toodles.

    m
  • Man everyone is doing really well. !!!!
    I tested yesterday due to some juggling and raised my indoor FTP from 207 to 220 which is pretty good for me. I did just made some changes in my fit and not sure I have the bike seat height just right yet. I rode outside this weekend and felt much stronger off the trainer bet my FTP outside will be 10-15pts higher. Weight is pretty steady but should drop during lent.
    Hopefully will drag myself out of the rack in the morning to do my run test before work. We are going to go see a concert on Tuesday night so the afternoon and Wed won't be a good time to test. Oh well worth the Spousal approval units!!
  • Ralph- no doubt your FTP will take another jump when you go outside- it just kinda works that way! Congrats on the big bump you'e already made!

    Marianne- I can't believe your trip is coming up already! Good luck and be safe! Hopefully I'll be doing a wee little bit of running myself when you get back!
  • I have just used an online spanish translator and made a small scrapbook of family pics to take with me... who knows if the translation is correct!!! cuz I don't speak espanol!! but I put in there I like to do triathlons!!! and have a pic of me near my bike and one of me after the disney marathon! anyways I will use that as an "ice breaker" when I meet people. and yep DH gave me wrong size suitcases so gotta repack into smaller ones, 62' l,w,h and no more than 50lbs but 2x.

    Ralph, nice work!! congrats on the bump!
    Nemo, I feel good about you resuming running!
    Jim, I read the article you posted and some of those running cues I do, but also been known to zone out!! some of them I admit I had never heard of.... (in general forum)

  • Awesome work everyone! It is so much fun to see all those numbers image!
  • Wow!!  Everyone's numbers are so impressive.  Congrats on the test results, everyone!!!  You are all bringing it and have motivated me. I am not testing this week, but you all have inspired me to suck it up and do the 2x20' workout (may as well be a test, just with longer rest interval) and shoot for 200 watts, so here's hoping...

    Marianne, your trip sounds super cool.  I know you'll share your pictures with us when you return and I can't wait to hear all about it.

    So, next week we start the VO2 max block.  I know as "members" we are supposed to have access to the power hack.  Anyone know where we get this??  My plan for week 9 just has the 30/30's on Tues and Thurs and some longer VO2 max stuff on Saturday.  I think the power hack is more aggressive (be careful what I wish for, I know!!) so was just wondering where we find the hack info...

    Just an update for my fellow injured peeps....I had an MRI of my shoulder last week, and it showed I have a torn labrum, supraspinatus tendinosis, and biceps tendonitis.  It was exactly what I was afraid of and could mean surgery.  I had an MRI of my pelvis yesterday to try and figure out my chronic hip issue as well as what is going on with the other hip from the bike crash 6 weeks ago.  So be careful out there everyone...the shoulder and left hip are both from a silly bike wreck where I landed just right and may have knocked out my season because of it...and I wish I could say I was flying down a mountain or something at 40 mph, but I was riding a flat path about 12-15mph and was 500 ft from the end where my car was!!

    Keep up the great work, everyone!!

    Melanie 

  • Sorry guys, I know I've been MIA but I've just been crazy busy. Did my test yesterday, not really thrilled with my results though. I was just feeling sluggish, having coming off of being sick last week I just didn't feel as though I had my legs back yet. I pushed through it and got it done, feeling as though I could have done better though.

    Here are the results:

    WEEK 1

    Weight - 162

    LTHR - 178

    FTP - 193

    W/Kg - 2.6



    WEEK 8

    Weight - 159

    LTHR - 181

    FTP - 210

    W/Kg - 2.9



    Great job to all for all the increases in FTP, this group is killing it! Keep up the good work!

  • Life has been intfering with some of my workouts. I did get my FTP test in today. I was a little anxious about what the results would show. I had told @Dan I was hoping to improve to 235-240 for my 2nd test. I was struggling in my early workouts to hold my original FTP. I think the results below will speak for themselves:

    Original FTP: 224
    New FTP: 244 (+10 from pre-IMAZ last fall from a single 20' TT; + 9% from original FTP test this year)

    I broke my intervals down a little:

    First 20' I split in 10' chunks
    10' #1: 246
    10' #2: 248
    Second 20' I split in 5' chunks
    5' #1: 247
    5' #2: 247
    5' #3: 241 (whoops)
    5' #4: 249

    FTP Test:
    Duration: 42:21
    Work: 615 kJ
    TSS: 83.9 (intensity factor 1.09)
    Norm Power: 244
    VI: 1.01
    Pw:HR: 4.64%
    Pa:HR: 4.54%
    Distance: 14.114 mi
    Min Max Avg
    Power: 69 304 242 watts
    Heart Rate: 127 185 174 bpm
    Cadence: 68 119 78 rpm
    Speed: 15.3 20.9 20.0 mph
    Pace 2:52 3:56 3:00 min/mi
    Crank Torque: 57 366 264 lb-in
  • nice work Tom 9 percent that is huge.
    Chad you went up 8.8 (we'll round up and call it 9) percent, and you lost 2 percent of your body weight I would say that is huge as well. Nice work even if you aren't happy w/ it. 7 weeks of work and it's still February.
  • What Dan Said! Chad- that's a great improvement- you should not feel bummed about it! Tom, sounds like you really overcame some metal anguish and really put up a great test- good job!

    I did 2x12's today (remember I'm a few weeks behind you guys). My intervals were just over 100% and the whole hour workout came in at .87 IF. I think I'll be due for a bump in my FTP soon as well :-)
  • Oh- and Mel, I'm not sure there is a Power Hack for folks who are not participating in the Power Clinic dealio. I think that ship sorta sailed. But you might want to double check with the coaches to be sure. Good luck with your 2x20 too!
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