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THE CRUCIBLE: IMSG #1 Edition

Many thanks to Simon for playing along. This is in two distinct parts: 

Crucible_SimonM_IMSG_1: http://screencast.com/t/OTA1OWJiYz

Crucible_SimonM_IMSG_2: http://screencast.com/t/ZjcxMGRmYjct

Basically, you had a very fit ride (you are strong!) but it would be an epic race day disaster. I only had my race file on hand, so used that (n=1) as comparison, but I think you can be a lot smarter in RR #2 (which is why we do two of them!).

Thanks for sharing...everyone else I hope to see your files after #2!

Patrick

Comments

  • Awesome feedback, thanks Patrick! Sorry for bringing the average EN IQ down there...I promise to have smarter RR #2 and IMSG files for you soon = )
  • Wow that was great. Very informative.

    • Thanks Simon for putting your data out there, you received some very valuable feedback.
    • Thanks for posting this Patrick. I'm always impressed by how much practical knowledge both you and Rich have.
    • I took a lot away from this and while my RRs are many weeks away, I can start applying the principals P went over now.
    • WKO+ 3.0 looks way cool. The quadrant analysis feature is a nice touch.
    • screencast.com is much better than screentoaster.com - would it be possible to use this from now on?
  • Thank you Simon for sharing and Thank you Patrick for your analysis!!
    I always learn and relearn alot with these crucibles.
    WKO 3.0 does look great. That quadrant thingy is also intriguing...
  • I always learn from these too. Thanks Simon for being willing to put it out there and thanks P for making the screencast.

    This should be mandatory viewing for everyone in the haus! Seriously!!
  • Simon, Thanks for sharing and Coach Patrick thanks for the analysis. Very helpful!!!
  •  I think power file analysis stuff is a fantastic way to learn about racing with a power meter.  Everyone should submit their files if asked! 

     

    SImon sent me his WKO file a couple of says ago and I offered my two cents on it also.  Hope he doesn't mind if  post my comments here image

     

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    Simon,

     



    Loop Duration Pnorm VI IF Distance      
    1 1:40:08 207 1.17 0.821 27.578      
    2 1:37:19 206 1.15 0.819 28.016      
    3 1:42:54 193 1.18 0.764 28.003      
    4 1:51:23 184 1.18 0.731 28.047      
                     
    Total 6:45:27 198 1.17 0.785 112.046      
                     
                     
    "Burning Matches" Watts Greater than FT for more than 15 seconds    
                     
      seconds   Cadence          
    Find 1 43   120          
    Find 2 29   115          
    Find 3 47   93          
    Find 4 31   100          
                     
    Peak Watts Cadence            
    5 sec 486 80            
    10 sec 440 73            
    30 sec 402 78            
                     
    Hill Climbing http://www.endurancenation.us/blog/...ing-hills/  
                     

    'll throw out some random thoughts:



    First, for pacing, general guidance is to start slow for the first

    hour or so, settle into race pace, and then if you have anything left

    over, push hard in the last our or so.  You can

    see that you start out harder and then start to fade in loop 3 and 4

    dropping from 207 watts in loop 1 to 184 watts in loop 4.  The idea is

    to let your heart rate settle in after the swim and then start getting

    food into your system.  No mention of nutrition in your e-mail, but

    look to be getting in 200/300 or so calories per hour on the bike.



    You should have a goal watts of 176

    watts, based upon an FT of 252 (which is 70% of the number).  Your

    numbers where much higher.  Not sure how trashed your legs were, but I

    suspect your FT is probably a little low. Riding 6+ hours at an IF of

    0.785 is incredibly hard to do.  Have you tested lately?  I'd guess

    you were much closer to 270 or so, giving you goal watts around 189,

    but that's just a guess.



    Your VI looks pretty high, but it's very consistent through all the

    loops.  I would think you should be much closer to 1.10 rather than

    the 1.17 you were averaging, but it could be a few things affecting

    the numbers. See spinning, down below.



    "Burning Matches". I did a search on segments greater than your FT of

    252 that lasted over 15 seconds in length. These spikes can really

    destroy your legs.  You had only 4, which is excellent.  They were

    around 30-40 seconds.  These usually occur as you power up hills and

    are often running out of gears and have to push hard, just to keep

    from falling off the bike. The funny thing about yours were that you

    had very high cadence on all these; no hill grinding, more like spin

    ups.  On all of these, I would have slowed cadence to keep watts down,

    or switched to a harder gear.  With very little spiking of watts, I

    would conclude that your bike gearing is quite good.  You don't need

    any more gears on your rear cassette. As an example of your spinning,

    look at your WKO chart.  I've highlighted the peak 5 second power (486

    watts) and your still spinning at 80 rpm.



    Spinning fast downhill.  I've got WKO 3.0, not sure if you have this

    version, but I did a scatter graph of speed versus cadence. You have a

    lot of instances of high speed / high cadence.  This results typically

    in low power, badly skewing your VI number, and, in my opinion,

    wasting energy.  After you hit 30+ mph, I'd put your pedals at

    9:00/3:00 position, tuck your head low to be really aero and stop

    pedaling.  Coast until you drop under this speed again.  I've included

    a link to the EN hill climbing blog.



    The Total time.  Don't stress about the total time.  My guess is that

    you will be a lot faster than 6:45 in IM SG, but get that out of your

    mind and really focus on the watts and make sure you are aiming for

    goal watts on flats, and long hill watts as you climb.  Zero watts

    over 30 mph.  Stressing about time will cause you to push too hard.

    If you are going 6:45, there will be a lot of 8 hour

    folks.  I have no idea how long it will take me.



    Overall I think it was a pretty good rehearsal.  I'd try to keep power

    numbers within your power racing zones gears of 168 to 194.  You can

    see on the WKO graph, there are lots of power numbers outside the

    horizontal dotted lines I've added. I'd re look at your FT numbers.

    If you think it may be higher than 252, plug the new number into the

    zone calculator.  On your next RR, I'd pick a flatter course, go no

    longer than 5.5 hours. With a flatter course, it may be easier to

    practice holding the right race watts.

     

    tom

     

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  • Thanks Tom! I really appreciated the "match burning" and "downhill spinning" analysis...great stuff. Between you, Patrick and Carrie, I'm pretty sure my IMSG day has been saved. I probably would have been "speed"walking the last 15 miles of the marathon had I not asked for feedback on my race rehearsal. Thanks everyone!
  • Simon, Patrick, and Tom (ok everybody)thanks for this post... I think I learned more in this post then I did the past 6 months about WKO and EN ride execution
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