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Tuesday Workouts... Brick or no Brick?

John WithrowJohn Withrow
in Group Discussion-OutSeason October 2010

I do almost all of my workouts in the very early morning since I have to leave ~6AM to go to work and need to get my workouts in before that.  For me to do ~60 mins on the bike, then ~25 mins of a run I might have to get up with a "3" on the clock to get it all in.  

Does anybody break these into a morning bike and an evening run or does this miss the point of the run (should it be done on tired legs)?  I was also a bit concerned that I'd then be doing an evening run (albeit an easy one) then a fairly hard interval run early the next morning.  

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  • mariannemarianne
    6 a.m leave,
    5:15 a.m. hop in shower and get ready?? and eat
    4:45 run
    4:35 transition
    3:30 get on bike
    3:15 get up

    6 a.m leave
    5:30 hop in shower and eat in car!
    4:55 run
    4:45 end bike
    3:45 start bike
    get up at 3:30 a.m.

    hmm.. I can see the problem.

    or you leave at 6
    get in shower at 5:25
    finish bike at 5:20
    get on bike at 4:15
    get up at 4 a.m.

    not too much better...so you lose only 30 mins of sleep and get in the desired run or
    you wait to you get home from work.. hey you didn't mention your lunch hour...?? what are you doing then??? do you have access to shower cuz you guys can get ready fast.

    but okay you get home from work at 6:30 p.m. and wind down by going out for run and back home at 7.. where you stretch and eat a bite and then get up next day for early morning run... yep you could try that and just keep it relaxed, just trying to get in the run frequency I believe and minimize costume changes.. one shower sorta workouts for time efficiency and also mental cost of having another workout hanging over you. This is a question that you can also post in "I need feedback for this week thread".. not sure what you do monday mornings but instead of rest day you could do that 30 min run then...

    or get a different JOB!! m
  • John WithrowJohn Withrow

    You were close. A normal Thursday looks something like this:

    6:07 leave for train

    5:50 finish quick stretch

    5:45 off the bike

    4:45 on the bike

    4:30 out of bed



    I could prolly do the tuesday by getting up at 4:00, but for some reason my t1 (bed to bike) takes longer the earlier it is. Its just hard to get the blood flowing immediately after rolling out of bed. I've got the T2 down to a science.



    I don't get a lunch hour (eat at my desk). I get home from work around 7pm, then spend 30 mins or so putting the kids to bed. So it would be like a 7:30 run before dinner. I might try the micro thread. I figured I'd try here first just in case many of you were already breaking this one up then I'd have an excuse to be lazy and sleep in.

  • talltimtalltim
    Hi, John. I also try to do TUE all in the AM, but I have broken it up in the past. I am not sure it is EN-approved for out-season, but IIRC it is OK (or at least was) in the sample week race or general prep model week. I think there was a note or something to the effect that it could be a split day. I would say the key is whether it impacts your Wed AM run at all. If not, then I don't see the harm.
  • mariannemarianne
    okay after looking at that schedule I wouldn't do the run at 7:30 at night!!! if you need the sleep, still can't remember what we do on Monday but it seems like a rest day. I might try to do it on that day. a 30' run is sorta like a rest day!! and then do the stretch/recover afterwards and so then you would be warmed up to stretch. I am also slow from Bed to workout... so I know what you mean.
  • Thing2Thing2

    How can you get on the bike within :15 of waking up?? I get up at 3:30 AM (really 3:27 because I get weird about waking up on round numbers) but my butt isn't on the bike until 4:10-4:15. Brush teeth, contacts in, eat breakfast, sit on couch wondering where I am...... I'm trying to do the workouts as bricks but it is tough to go from sweating like a pig to going out in the cold darkness.

    And it is completely wrong to get to work around 6:30 AM and feel like you are late!!!

  • SwoodowrthSwoodowrth

     This borders on insanity!

  • mariannemarianne
    okay dude, you should be up and on your bike now!!!!! ha ha ha.
  • mimsrdmimsrd
    John, I'm in the same boat as you. I have to be at work before 0630, plus I commute about an hour to work. For pretty much every workout day, I wake up at 0400. I've found that is my cutoff. Something about 3:XX is just to early do do on a consistent basis. On tuesdays, I split the workout up. I think I saw it in the Wiki, but the short run is more about adding run volume/frequency than any special brick mojo. Might have been in one of he podcasts. Anyway, I get to the run at about 6:30 in the evening. As short as it is (I usually do 30 min even if less is prescribed), it doesn't cause any sleep/food/mental issues. In fact, it's usually a nice way to wind down after work.

    Another thing to think about. As you get closer to IM, the workouts do get longer. I make sure I focus on work now, during the OS, so I can build up a solid reputation as a hard worker. I can cash this reputation in when I need a couple hours in the spring to make a long run. Kind of like the SAU concept. This is an N=1 thing, though, with my boss. He was cool with my training this season when I really needed to add a little volume. May not work in your job.
  • John WithrowJohn Withrow
    @Paul-- Took me 20 mins today as I was a bit groggy. I don't brush my teeth, don't wear contacts, or eat breakfast (occasionally a Gu or shot block or something). I just splash some water on my face, get a drink, get dressed and head down to the pain cave.

    @Sheryl-- I agree, but no other options...

    @Marianne-- I decided to do my run tonight, so your message was posted exactly 3 minutes before I even woke up. You're sick!

    @David-- Glad to hear I'm not alone... I also have an hour or so commute. It was a big mental leap a couple yrs ago to accept getting up with a 4 on the clock... I really should drift it lower to get it down to 4:00 as well. You're a machine! I agree that 3:XX will not work for my psyche. I also need to go to be earlier as it's usually 10PM by time I get around to it. Too many podcasts, eBooks and EN forums to read on the couch at night!
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