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Week 2 - Bike Thread

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  • Coach R is not messing around with Week 2 bikes. They just got real, real fast.

    I need to find my big boy underoos for this week. I don't want to look ahead

     

  • Posted By HayesSanborn on 09 Nov 2009 08:58 AM

    Coach R is not messing around with Week 2 bikes. They just got real, real fast.

    I need to find my big boy underoos for this week. I don't want to look ahead

     

    No joke,  and that sneeky run that's MP pace out and HMP back after a tough bike session always gets the lungs screaming.



     

  • Had to move the Tuesday bike and T-run to today because of crazy schedule this week.  Was 39 degrees when I rolled outta bed and ~43 at the start of the ride. 

    Felt good, blasted the 3 x 8's and glad to be "officially" back into the OS groove with body, mind and spirit! 

    :25 run after the bike at LRP.  Here is my bike data:


    • Interval #1:

      Duration: 8:00

      Work: 132 kJ

      TSS: 14.4 (intensity factor 1.039)

      Norm Power: 277 < 10 watts above FT

      VI: 1.01

      Distance: 2.295 mi

      Min Max Avg

      Power: 144 408 274 watts

      Cadence: 51 173 100 rpm

      Speed: 7.9 25.8 17.1 mph

      Pace 2:19 7:36 3:30 min/mi

       


    • Interval #2:

      Duration: 8:00

      Work: 136 kJ

      TSS: 15 (intensity factor 1.062)

      Norm Power: 284  < 17 watts above FT

      VI: 1

      Distance: 3.45 mi

      Min Max Avg

      Power: 3 442 283 watts

      Cadence: 87 166 102 rpm

      Speed: 18.1 35.9 25.8 mph   Chasing Tom Glynn through a downhill section!

      Pace 1:40 3:19 2:19 min/mi

      Crank Torque: 0 397 235 lb-in

       


    • Interval #3:

      Duration: 8:00

      Work: 135 kJ

      TSS: 14.7 (intensity factor 1.052)

      Norm Power: 281  < 14 watts above FT

      VI: 1

      Distance: 2.971 mi

      Min Max Avg

      Power: 172 407 281 watts

      Cadence: 75 150 97 rpm

      Speed: 17 25.5 22.2 mph

      Pace 2:21 3:32 2:42 min/mi

      Crank Torque: 138 425 249 lb-in

       


    • Entire workout (206 watts):

      Duration: 1:19:44 (1:20:57)

      Work: 988 kJ

      TSS: 101.8 (intensity factor 0.875)

      Norm Power: 234

      VI: 1.13

      Distance: 25.197 mi

      Min Max Avg

      Power: 0 470 206 watts

      Cadence: 31 196 99 rpm

      Speed: 2.2 35.9 19.1 mph

      Pace 1:40 26:49 3:09 min/mi

      Crank Torque: 0 959 180 lb-in

       

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  • Looks like you crushed that one, John! Nice work!

  • Can I borrow Tom for my FTT in January???
  • First ride on a tri bike this weekend. I scored one from the ultra secret EN/TT Bike Fit deal. WOW! I have never had so much fun on a bike. New gear always makes suffering easier. image
  • Like John, had to move Tuesday bike up to today. On Thursday, my family and I relocating to Montana finally. We got a whole lot of unpacking coming up....

    Cranked it up 3X8min and felt great. Once I actually get a powermeter, I will be able to post some mad numbers like Stark. Good to be back.

     

     

  • Bike Session DONE!!!  Picture me doing the Happy Dance!!!  I SO wanted to snuggle into the couch in jammies and relax tonight. But I fought the urge with a little help from Steve and the thought of all of you getting your groove on this week.

    Inside, trainer listening to loud music, silly music like Will Smith- Wild Wild West, Sugar Hill Gang- Rapper's delight and the Beach Boys!!!

    My FT 210W

    3 x 8min  FT( 209, 211, 209 !!!!!)

    1 x 10  at 86%

    1 x 5 @ 80%

    Total 57 minutes with IF .87

    Stick a fork in me I am done!!

    Night night

    Carrie

  • Posted By Matt Sullivan on 09 Nov 2009 02:35 PM

    Looks like you crushed that one, John! Nice work!

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    Between Carrie and me we are The Stick {THWACK!} for you and the rest of NOS this week.  Crush it everyone! 





     

  • Posted By Nemo Brauch on 09 Nov 2009 04:47 PM

    Can I borrow Tom for my FTT in January???
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    New EN acronym . . . . . FTT = Functional TOM Threshold. 





     

  •  What John failed to mention about today's interval ride was that some enraged driver tried on several occasions to cut John off and "have a few words" with him.

    I had my camera with phone/video/sound ready to record evidence for the police should it have escalated, but John seemed unscathed by the whole episode.  I talked to him shortly after, and John said that he would have stopped and approached the guy, but he was in the middle of an interval and didn't want to interrupt it.

    Truly motivated by EN intervals!

     

    tom

  • Getting back in to the swing of things after battling the flu for the last 4-5 days. Would like to say I had a good ride this morning but I honestly have no idea what happened and need to evaluate all the data and variabiles from today. Day started at 3am when I woke and couldn't fall back asleep. Hung out watching tv for a few hours before hitting the bike. Bottom line this ride felt pretty darn easy. Too easy considering I'm still feeling pretty wiped out from the bug. Maybe it was the 4 days of doing nothing but sleeping constantly or maybe it was the technology gone awry. Over the weekend I pulled the PT wheel off the tri bike, switched the cassette from 10 to 9 speed so I could put it on road bike on CT. Today was first ride since last O/S where I had both Computrainer and Powertap data simultaneously. Set the CT on ERG mode and got after it. Started to think something was weird when HR during first 8' was 115 and there was a 30 watt diff between CT and PT (PT lower). Hit the 2nd and 3rd intervals and while they felt like a little work they weren't the leg crushing workout I remember from last O/S. During 3rd 8' interval my HR was in 90's?????? Initial comparison of average watts for the entire ride from the PT (185) and CT (228) makes me think something is/was up with the CT today. Need to do some trouble shooting tonight. Ultimately this was probably a good thing that ride was easier than perhaps it should be given I'm not at full strength / health yet.
  • Crawled down to the cave this morning. Feeling a bit tight as I went for a run last night after work as it was 64 degrees and that may well not happen again until April or May. As usual 3x8 really did not sound all that bad, well until about 2 minutes into the first one anyhow. 3x8 were:

    294
    293
    292

    all between .97 and .98. Good enough. Now to get my daughter on the bus and run.

    Got a long day ahead as I have a 3:00 in Salem, MA today. I will be driving by tons of ENer's on the Pike and 95 today. I will be watching, you better not be slacking!

    Hope everyone had a good one today.
  • Didn't feel it when I woke up this morning but forced myself to the cave to get it done.

    As I got the first 8' out of the way I began to feel stronger and stronger.  Channeled the Stark/Glynn crew.

    FTP=257,   the 3X8 went like this:  1st=259,  2nd=270, 3rd=271,  remaining 30'=220

    Total IF for the ride was .93 without 10 minute wu.  I'd say it was a good morning. Oh yeah did 3.8 miles in 25min. after.

  • Hey Team,
    I love getting up here on the "other coast" and seeing how you guys got it done while I was sleeping!!

    @Aaron- I believe there is a thread in the other forums about sticking with the power device you testd on. So if on CT but tested on PT, use the PT numbers or vice versa. Glad you are back in the land of the living. That Flu bug is brutal. We only had colds here.
  • Got it done this morning. 10 minute warm up and then just the work. 3x8(2). I tested at 215 FTP last week. I am doing my workouts at 222 which was my previous. That's what WKO+ is set at. I don't think I tested well at all last week.

    I used the coaching software this morning.

     Entire workout (203 watts):

        Duration:      28:29 (29:17)

        Work:          347 kJ

        TSS:           45.4 (intensity factor 0.978)

        Norm Power:    217

        VI:            1.07

        Pw:HR:          n/a

        Pa:HR:          n/a

        Distance:      9.486 mi

            Min    Max    Avg

        Power:           0    322    203     watts

        Cadence:         39    170    92     rpm

        Speed:           2.2    22.9    20.3     mph

        Pace             2:37    26:49    2:57     min/mi

        Crank Torque:    0    349    187     lb-in

     

    I hit my intervals at 232, 227 and 225.

  • FTP = 200

    Hit my 3x8 as 202, 202, and 205. Then "hammered home" with 20' at 181 (.906).

    Entire workout (178 watts):
    Duration: 1:00:33
    Work: 646 kJ
    TSS: 86.8 (intensity factor 0.928)
    Norm Power: 186
    VI: 1.04
    Pw:HR: n/a
    Pa:HR: n/a
    Distance: 16.332 mi
    Min Max Avg
    Power: 0 276 178 watts
    Cadence: 34 105 74 rpm
    Speed: 3.2 19.8 16.2 mph
    Pace 3:02 18:34 3:42 min/mi
    Crank Torque: 0 412 203 lb-in
  • Nice Work everyone. I got mine done this morning as well. I forgot how hard the 3rd interval can feel, but I'm glad I pushed through it.

    I got 1:00 total at 0.89 IF and am doing the run outside at lunch.
  • Ok guys, just some fantastic efforts this morning logged above. I really enjoy reading the stats and seeing the "work" getting done. I had to be at work for a 7 a.m. meeting this morning but did get the stick out and hopped on the bike at 5 a.m.

    The warm up at that time of day is like a fog for me. I spend about 15 minutes in Z1/Z2 then do a 3X1' at FT with 1' in between.

    The 3X8s came in at 302 / 306 / 311 for me .....yes I was awake by the end of the 1st one. Favorite song this morning" "Rock -n- Roll Aint Noise Pollution" of the Sirius BONYARD station. I did one more 3" interval at 320 watts to make it an even 30 mins the crawled off the bike to................I'll get the run in at lunch and extend it a bit ......

    Week 2 is upon us!
  • Y'all know I'm not really doing the OS- but I am still using you all to motivate me! I went out for my ride this morning and threw in 2x5' intervals at an IF of 1.1 just for the "fun" of it. I channeled Leigh, Carrie, and Linda the whole way thinking about how you all were doing 3x8's and I only had to do 5! I rode at ABP for the rest of the ride and just enjoyed being outside on my bike. When I get back from NZ it will be too dark again in the morning to ride and I'll be in the Pain Cave like the rest of you frozen tundra folks. :-( So I'm enjoying my rides now while I still can!!!
  • Due to some IT Band issues, Coach P had me start a week late. Did my first 5K run test, but not the bike test yet. Rode my new tri bike for the first time on Sunday. Definately feels much faster than my road bike Cannondale! I have a Specialized Transition Comp 2009, black and yellow! Named her Queen B (B for Barb image
    I'll do the bike test Thursday, most likely. Then I'll do my weekend workouts associated with Week 1. I'll have to check with Patrick about going to week 2 or scooting on to week 3.
    Nemo, you're in NZ? I am soooo jealous! Vacation, or IM? I've heard it is absolutely beautiful there! It's on my bucket list to visit!
  • This morning's workout proved I'm out of the EN infirmary and ready to train hard.

    I started the first 3x8' a little on the cautious side, but bumped it up pretty quickly and totally nailed the next two to the wall.

    I also had my bike fall out of the trainer at the end of the first interval and I landed on top of studying boyfriend. Thankfully, he's softer than the floor. That was a first. Now I know to check the trainer to make sure everything is tight. =-) In true EN style, the bike didn't fall until I had 10" left on the clock.

    Another first? I did the 20' brick run and it felt good. Weird.

  • This morning felt better and hurt worse than I was expecting... All you Vet EN people are right about how much 8 min can hurt!
    I held Zone 5 for teh first 2 intervals and was ajust a few watts shy on the 3rd. Then finished off the rest of the hour at 85%.
    It worked me over good!
    The 20' brick afterwards actualy kinda felt good leaving my hot garage on the trainer and getting out in the cool wind!


    Thanks for the motivation on my 8 min intervals! I actually found myself saying other people are doing this same thing right now with you. Suck it up and dont stop!
  • DDDAAAAMMMMNNNNNN!  HUGE mojo happening this morning!  Love to log in and see all this.  Good job everyone!

    Beth nailed the intervals "to the wall."  I love it! 

    Shaughn is an FTP MONSTER!  Huge numbers!    Another EN Acronym . . . STP = Shaughn Threshold Power

    Leigh, Matt, Trent, Nemo (our lurker and glad to have her) and everyone else . . .  ROCKED IT!! 

    Who's next?

  • Posted By Tom Glynn on 10 Nov 2009 12:16 AM

     What John failed to mention about today's interval ride was that some enraged driver tried on several occasions to cut John off and "have a few words" with him.

    I had my camera with phone/video/sound ready to record evidence for the police should it have escalated, but John seemed unscathed by the whole episode.  I talked to him shortly after, and John said that he would have stopped and approached the guy, but he was in the middle of an interval and didn't want to interrupt it.

    Truly motivated by EN intervals!

     tom

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    I have a family.  If someone is going to put me in danger and drive like a douche bag I am going to say something.  I don't need to have my life insurance policy cash in this soon.   He wasn't worth my time to stop and kick his ass.    License # CA 6JDP040





     

  • Hit 232, 233, 236 for the 3 x 8 min.  Last one was tough, but I gritted it out.  A funny thing happened on the way to the Z3 work afterwards...

     

    Somehow, 2min rest after the 3rd FTP interval was not nearly enough.  I started doing some ABP, and was just shelled.  Took an extra 3-4 minutes, and was able to ABP in for about an hour.  Forgot how tough it can be to come off of these intervals into the 'work' section.

     

    Mike

  • Had a great ride. IF of 1.04 for all 3 sets. Followed that with 2.25 mile run.

    Have a question about race scheduling and the OS and not sure where I should post it or if I should just create a thread myself. Opportunity just came up to race Florida 70.3 in May. Company picking up the whole tab. This would be my first half. Will I have enough time to prepare? Where shall I post this question?
  • only had 40' so made it count

     3x8'@FT:

        Duration:      8:00

        Work:          138 kJ

        TSS:           14 (intensity factor 1.026)

        Norm Power:    287

        VI:            1

            Min    Max    Avg

        Power:           239    325    287     watts

        Cadence:         79    95    83     rpm



        2:20 Rest



        Duration:      8:01

        Work:          137 kJ

        TSS:           13.9 (intensity factor 1.018)

        Norm Power:    285

        VI:            1

            Min    Max    Avg

        Power:           189    335    285     watts

        Cadence:         52    116    79     rpm



        2:00 Rest



        Duration:      8:00

        Work:          141 kJ

        TSS:           14.9 (intensity factor 1.058)

        Norm Power:    296

        VI:            1.01

            Min    Max    Avg

        Power:           223    396    293     watts

        Cadence:         57    95    75     rpm

  • Well done all! I got in my 3x8' all around 1.02 of FTP (310 on 305 FTP). Man the first one hurt, but last one was mentally easier...

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  • Awesome NOS Group ! Got it done this morning early, 3x8' slightly over FTP. Legs weren't as "awake" as last Saturday. It was nice to run after at LRP....as a sometime veteran of EN, the most important lesson learned is to do the plan, AND NO MORE....plenty to follow. Besides, how many of your friends are doing over an hour at threshold during the winter months ???? Especially November !
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