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Week 7 bike thread

No rest for the wicked on the bike this week! We are full throttte again on the bike (with a rest day on Sunday to prepare for next week's testing). Advanced plan calls for 2 x 20 FTP on Tuesday, The normal VO2 bike on Thursday, and 14/14/7 FTP on Saturday. Have fun, as always!
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  • Yepp u are right Will and it will be hard again 

    Think I will skip all these extra bike-work I did till now this week in order to get an according run test next Wednesday ... my actual TSB is at minus 23 and I want to get it up to minus 9 (as I had on my last test) to keep things compareable image

  • Early start to week 7 today due to work and home improvement projects the rest of the week.  After a good set of weekend workouts to end week 6, had "fun" with the 2x20 @ FTP this morning.  Rest day is tomorrow!  Here's to hoping all of this work pays off for the FTP test next week

  • I also had to knock out the Tuesday wko today d/t my work schedule. This was my first ride with my new tested FTP of 267 so I was actually dreading it a little. So much I target the first 20 minutes at .95 and went for it the second 20. Very happy to report it went well. Again Trainer Road's visual pushes me that much harder.






    Doing the run tomorrow before heading to the fire station.  



    Run done-ouchie!!!


  • Thanks for getting us started doing the 2 x 20 David and Carl. Nice effort and attitude.

    Looking forward to mine this week. I like the 2 x 20 challenge. It really makes you dig and be patient and humble at the same time.

  • A workout like the one tonight coming after a big Saturday brick and a hard Sunday run makes you realize why Monday is supposed to be a rest day on the OS plan. But for those of us with work schedules that don't cooperate there just isn't a choice. My legs were good and fried heading into tonight's 2x20' and the results - despite being my first 2x20' with a new FTP - were actually not too bad all things considered. That said, this is the first FTP workout in a LONG TIME where my second interval had lower power than my first.



    And thank goodness for driving wind and rain providing an escape from the 45' brick. I'll do that run after the VO2 bike later this week I suspect.



    Overall 1:06:04, NP 232, IF 0.914. Full warmup of 10' easy/z1 then 3x3'(1')@z3. Then the main set:



    20'(4') @z4 – NP: 256 (IF 1.006), VI 1.00, HR 161/171, cad 90

    20' @z4 – NP: 251 (IF 0.987), VI 1.00, HR 169/177, cad 90



    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/275136070
  • That is a tough 3rd day Matt. Nice job on your intervals. Enjoy your rest day.
  • I am a week ahead and did my bike test today. VO2 up to 310 from 285, FTP up to 250 from 238! Where can I enter my new numbers in EN 5.0?
  • 10' ez w/u with some short accels then right into
    4x 10'(1') @ .97, 1.0, 1.0, 1.05
    yes, triaged.
    5' hi cadence
    2' ez cooldown

    running tonight

    this was one of those workouts where I was dreading it, kept looking for the bottom to fall out and it just never did.

    this workout proved to be a mental boost for me as I was able to let loose a little bit all the way thru the last set. I'm usually very conservative and 'shoot' for .96 or .97.

    and, legs still feel pretty good.

    chilling as much as possible for the rest of the day (at work) and then will punch out a few miles running this evening.

    Go Get 'em!
  • Whooaa!  

    Big step up (2x20) today for us intermediate folks (at least for me).  Coming off a long/intense ride on Sunday made this one really, really tough.  Metrics attached in the link below.  No run tonight, weather is awful thus moving the run to Thursday

    Hyperlink -> workout

     


    1:11:04

    1:08:46

    0.00 mi

    973 kJ

    91 (0.89)

    250

    1.06

    4.7%

    1.66

    3.2


    workout
      Min Avg Max
    Power (Watts): 0 236 509
    Speed (mph): 0 0 1.4
    Pace (min/mi):





    HR (bpm): 50 151 172
    Cadence (rpm): 16 93 131
    Elev (ft): 719 719 719
    Temp (F): <63</td>
    64 68



     

  • Yep that 2 x 20 kicked my butt. Got it done but oh boy did I want to stop multiple times ;-)
  • 2x20 kicked my butt today, too. Managed 0.99 and 0.94, but it was HARD! Actually pleasantly surprised I held on to what I did for the second set. It was definitely a mental battle. Those seem to be the norm these days with these FTP wko's. Nasty windy/snowy/cold today so will run on the 'mill at lunch, as usual.
  • Way to get it done. Although you are all making me scared. I do mine tomorrow. One minute at a time...
  • About to hit up the treadmill for Tuesday run, and got the 2x20 done this morning. FTP work is getting easier, so I'm hoping for a good bump. But it's all I can usually do to hit the lower end of the FTP range. For a little bit I could swear the clock was moving backwards image
  • The 2x20 is by far the toughest WKO I've done for a very very very long time but trust me it's getting a little bit easier on second try 

    I just finished mine getting pretty nice IFs of 0.98 and 0.99 for the intervals . It was HARD again in the end but I figured out some mental tricks to disconnect my mind from my feet which worked out pretty nice.

    You can visit the workout on TrainingPeaks 

  • I was pretty pleased with my 2 x 20. Yes, it was hard. Doggone hard. But not impossible. Ironically, a couple times I imagined my daughter in her mile swim at State over the weekend a couple of times when I felt like quitting. (I did her counting, so I was right on of her...and if my 12 year old can go that hard that long, I can too....) After i got to how long she took to do the mile, I just had a number of pedal strokes in my head and closed my eyes and counted. :-)

    20 #1 Ave power 248 (1.00 IF)
    20 #2 Ave Power 250 (1.01 IF)

    NP of 232 (IF 0.94) for the 60 minutes.

    Will run later tonight.
  • Took a queue from the EN mantra of proper pacing in the IM bike, and said why go for 100% of FTP when the prescription is for 95% to 100%. ;-) So I didn't hammer it but kept it just under FTP and got it done.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/221158
  • Holy smoke. Thanks to everybody's updates, I didn't quit on the 2nd 1 x 20'. That's was really tough, but I've been really pushing it. It feels like torture, but still in my Z4 HR range, but it gets really close to impossible keeping the cadence up above 80. I'm naturally a grinder, but try to be light on my feet and keep the turnover as quick as comfortable, so I do get into the mid 90's a lot.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/275442156#.USQSX3dx0zA.mailto

    MS 2 x 20' (4) @
    225-270 = NP 245
    225-245 = NP 235

    Did the 25' WU before FTP set, and 5-6 miles extra @ Z3 (190-210).

    Thanks again everybody for inspiration. GO EN TEAM! KABOOM!!!
  • Well I must say it was an interesting trg day. Up at o dark badger time and completed my run before breakfast. Off to work for the day then home. Not feeling the ride mojo so a cup of java was needed for a little motivation. Well the ride did happen and it was "tough" freakin tough. 1st interval I was only able to hang on to my low Z4 NP 215. Took my sweet time getting ready for the 2nd interval. Usually able to push this interval up over 220 NP(upper end Z4) as a neg split but at the 15 min mark I knew I was in trouble cadence dropped by 6 rpm 90 - 84. I was struggling just to stay in my Z4.I started shifting gears to find the sweet spot negatory on that. Limped in like a Daytona driver out of gas. 2nd interval done NP 214. It took me a good 30 minutes to recover. For me that is a significant trg fou pa. Unsure what transpired so back to the drawing board for some critical thinking!!
  • This ride was an a$$ kicker and it still beat my day at work.
    FTP: 186
    Goal: 164
    Actual: 173
    Normalized: 180
    IF: .97
    TSS: 94
    VI: 1.04
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/222070
  • Great work everyone! Nice start to the week.

    I had a great day today. 4x1 milers and 1km swim in the morning. Sat on the couch for 3 episodes of The Walking Dead then did my 2x20's.

    I wanted to do 100% FTP for both intervals, but wanted to save some for tomorrow. Ended up with 252 and 242. I skipped the warmup though.

    http://www.trainingpeaks.com/av/RTAAF6NKRWLHMEEET3UDXEX2UM

  • Did the Tuesday run in am - did 5 miles w/strides at the end.
    After work I forgot that I promised to go scout a Community College basketball game for my buddy who is a CC coach. Its playoff time.
    Oh well, didn't get on bike till 9:45pm. Got the 2 x 20s done - felt slow, heavy, tired ...like I had a wagon attached to the bike w/both coaches sit'en in there cracking the whip (cadence was a full 5 rpms lower than usual) - but got 'r' done nonetheless: IF @ 1.025 & 1.013.
  • OK, second week with a 2x20. Much harder than last week. I could feel that wagon too. Held back a bit for rep one cuz I knew rep 2 was going to be tough and finished with a .986IF. Rep 2, really struggled to hold 1.0 and finished with .995IF.

    Looking ahead I am scheduled to drop into the GF after test week and what do I see 2x20 more than once. Ouch.

  • Wow! I'm really impressed with everyone's workouts so far this week.  I'm on the beginner plan so I only had to do 2 x 15 last night.  I am stilling using the Spinning bikes at the gym.  Though a friend gave me a trainer she wasn't using and I had the Quarq installed last Saturday so I am looking forward to Thursday's VO2 workout. It will be my first on my own bike on the trainer.  I hope it's not too much harder than the spinning bike.   I'll report in.   Soon I'll feel a little bit more like you guys.
  • T-3 min to 2 x 20 !!! I told Tom Glynn it might get ugly - don't look over at me image
  • Did my 2x20 this morning and actually felt really good after taking yesterday as a rest day (I did a trail run on Monday as I was off from work).

    1st 20 mins = 319W (IF of 1.016); From minutes 10-15 I stayed near or above 100RPMs, and around 90 or so for the rest
    2nd 20 mins = 323W (IF of 1.029); From minutes 10-15 I stayed in the low 60's RPMs, and in the low to mid 80's for the rest

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/222671
    (my ftp isn't correct in TR as Jess and I share one TR account, so I adjust it up for my workouts and she adjusts it down)
  • Leslie- That is exciting. You will be riding with power and on the trainer!! Have you tested with power yet?

    John- Great job on your 20's. I saw nowhere close to 1.0xxx image

    Did my 2 x 20 today and early on I could feel it was going to be tough. I have been working hard on not giving in this OS. A little background: When I first trained with power (2008) I would try to force it and if I could not hold the numbers I would give up. I did not have my head on straight back then and thought it was all about being able to do it and what is wrong with me if I can't do it but everyone else can?? I did not like that I put that pressure on myself. So for today when it got hard- I never gave in and just tried to find a rhythm.

    My current FT tested 2 weeks ago is 191W

    Ended up with IF of .95 for each 20 minutes. 181W and 182W

    To be honest I am shocked I hit 95%. I thought for sure it would be lower but I guess I started and ended each interval strong.

    The run after of 45 minutes was SLOW. Even slower than my Z1. I just found a comfy pace and held it while chatting with Tom Glynn. Looking forward to resting tomorrow. I take Mondays and Thursdays off.
  • Tough WKO. The mind can do amazing things! My legs did not feel good tonight. Ran my EP WKO with strides this morning and my bike FTP WKO last night so didn't set myself properly really. Since my legs seemed really heavy warming up, I stayed at or slightly above my Vo2 of 283. Back to the amazing mind. I felt if I took my 2' recovery between 5 x 45/45's that I'd be dead and not make it through all 4 (5 x 45/45). Did the official 25' WU, then into MS. Once I got going my HR was low, so just kept working to get close to Z5 HR.

    MS 1 x (20 x 45/45 continuos with 10 @ 285, 5 @ 290 & 5 @ 295 WATTS). Got all 30' in a straight shot. i did an FTP WKO OF 32' straight a couple weeks ago instead of stopping at 20', so knew it can be done if I keep motivated and break it up in my mind. Just kept going and stayed under my Z5 HR OF 174. Did a few Z3 miles, then cooled down. 25 miles total in 1:11:01.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/275806552#.USWb0ntLUvk.mailto
  • Nice test Todd! ENjoy the new zones!

    Got the thurs bike w/o done in am this time after just 12 hours from Wed run. But actually felt quite strong. Hit all vo2 intervals consistent w/last week, again cutting down the rest to 1:15. Got another 10' at 89%. Rest now till Sat - yeah!
  • Thursday's my local Crit coach comes to my house and we workout together. They are usually the hardest of the week for me. We started at 0530 with a 60 min recovery ride after yesterdays work to wake the legs up. Ended with: 

    Duration: 1:02:09

    Work: 661 kJ

    TSS: 49.8 (intensity factor 0.696)

    Norm Power: 186


    VI: 1.05

    Heart Rate: 100 160 147 bpm

    Cadence: 41 123 85 rpm

    Speed: 0 21.4 17.4 mph



    I then pulled up the 45/45 that was scheduled today and he shot that down and we did, "Revolver" out of TR. Note this is only a 47 minute ride with a 12 min warm up-if you can call it a warm up. It is then 1 min ON and 1 min OFF, no breaks in between sets!! I like this but after last week, the weekend, and Monday then Wed wko's my quads and ITB's were smarting a moderate amount.



    Well started and after the warm up and first one min burst out of 16 I noticed it was set at 1.37% of my FTP. So when the coach got up to use the bathroom I quickly cranked down the IF but it wasn't enough cause he worked me into the ground. When we finished I was actually shaking. I can't remember the last time that happened.

    Duration: 48:12---Revolver out of TR...

    Work: 641 kJ

    TSS: 75.8 (intensity factor 0.976)-current FTP is 267

    Norm Power: 261


    VI: 1.17

    Pw:HR: -0.7%

    Pa:HR: 6.3%

    Distance: 14.455 mi

    Min Max Avg

    Power: 0 435 222 watts

    Heart Rate: 105 174 160 bpm

    Cadence: 33 127 83 rpm

    Speed: 0 23.6 17.9 mph

    Pace 2:32 0:00 3:21 min/mi

    Hit from 1.21-1.32%..as 343,349,345,347,342,347,353,343,351,326,339,331,327,322,and 328.

  • Carrie-- It just hit me what you said your FTP is... Wow, you'r just a little peep. Does that put you over 4.0 W/Kg? No wonder you had a hard time hitting 1.0 IF...
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