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Hi Coach, I am in week 13 of HIM, the HIM is July 13th.  I am racing an OLY in Hammond IN. (week 14, C race)Sunday  June 2nd.  According to week 14 I should be doing a race rehearsal that Saturday and rest on Sunday   How do I adjust the schedule to race, while not losing valuable race rehearsal time.  Should I race rehearse this weekend instead of the WU: 20-30' @ 65-70% / Zone1-2/ Easy. 

MS: 8' (3') @ 95-100%/Zone4/Hard. 10' (3') @ 95-100%/Zone4/Hard. 12' (3') @ 95-100%/Zone4/Hard. 10' (4') @ 95-100%/Zone4/Hard. 4 x 12' (2') @ 80-85%/Zone3/Mod-Hard that is called for?

 

So far the weather looks like T-Storms for the race. glad I made it a C.

 

Thanks, Cathleen

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  • Cat, I don't know if you did the RR over MDW or not...we can always add it later (after your race) if required. As for this week...regular week through Thursday, then Friday off, Saturday is a short bike / run (20' of each with some pick ups at race pace), then light it up on race day and have fun!!!
  • I did the workout as prescribed in the my training plan, week 13 HIM Intermediate, over the last weekend, (did not do the Race Rehearsal week 14).  Afterwards I was worn out, hurting, cranky, tired, couldn't sleep,  and all around a real bi-otch.  I took Monday and Tuesday off, I just couldn't even look at anything to do with training.  I got a massage on Tuesday, and went to the pool and then a small run on Wednesday.  I felt awkward on the run, like my legs were someone else's.  ( and the run is my happy place)  ended up walking home 1/4 mile. So I have not done the workout through Thursday as you suggested,   Am I screwed?
  • I did the long run on Thursday at a slower pace.
  • CAt you aren't screwed but you are tired. GREAT at training so far, but we need to keep you light and easy. If you can get to the pool Friday for a short swim (1500) and then plan on a short 20 minute run on Saturday...stay loose, lots of stretching, and focus on the nutrition plan, etc!!! You might not be racing at 100% (not the point here) but there's lots to learn in terms of execution, pacing and nutrition!
  • Coach, completed best of the u.s, with Trish Marshall in the cold wet. It was a gear failure day but as a c race and going in fatigued it was not surprising as it was just not my day. However I came out with shin pain and after seeing the doctor it is a very early stress fracture. He is hopeful I can be back sooner than later. I can swim and begin east biking next week. any advice what to do? I pulled out of my oly for june 16, but I have a HIM July 13, Should i pull out and save for IMAZ,
  • quick note... if you have a stress fracture get off your feet. get diagnosis confirmed though with MRI. If it a bad shin splint it is only 14 days rest. I was out for 9 months because I did not get of my feet and continued to ride my bike, walked a lot and swam, pushing off wall. swim with consideration of that. I finally got better after I broke the other foot and HAD to stay still. (missed Boston and IMCDL)
    (I hope it's okay I jumped in there coach....)
  • @patricia, no problem! Thanks so much for jumping in here...

    @Cathleen, we need you to rest up instantly, especially if IMAZ is your true, no-joke "A" race. You might want to check in with the event (Non-WTC?) to see if you can get a refund, switch to a different race or defer until next year [edit - maybe do the aqua bike?]. Then I would get a follow-up MRI for end of June/early July to see how you are progressing. Until then, I would suggest a swim focus with plenty of biking...I might also review your shoes / footstrike to see if we reduce the causes of the problem.

    No one answer here, but I think the long term view is best.
  • Coach, hope you are healing image Just a FYI: Took your advice and shut it down, had the post 5 weeks MRI and it came back pretty clean, I have old "undetermined" areas from 30 years of running. But I was thrilled, Doc said I could do my HIM Muncie, that I will probably have to walk the run since I had not trained much on the bike and not on the run 5/7 weeks, I accepted that. Swim was good, bike was decent (my speedfil dislodged from the frame and spent 7 minutes McGyver'ing it back on with my hair band.) RUN: I started slow and was prepared for the inevitable walk and it never came. No pain, I wore my magic shoes, which have never let me down in a race. I was shocked!! I finished 10 minutes slower than my previous times at Muncie but with the time off the bike and not properly trained I was thrilled! I could only have accomplished that by having such an awesome base 7 weeks before the race. I can't wait to see what I can do full throttle. Even "old" work works!
  • Coach, hope you are healing  Just a FYI: Took your advice and shut it down, had the post 5 weeks MRI and it came back pretty clean, I have old "undetermined" areas from 30 years of running. But I was thrilled, Doc said I could do my HIM Muncie, that I will probably have to walk the run since I had not trained much on the bike and not on the run 5/7 weeks, I accepted that. Swim was good, bike was decent (my speedfil dislodged from the frame and spent 7 minutes McGyver'ing it back on with my hair band.) RUN: I started slow and was prepared for the inevitable walk and it never came. No pain, I wore my magic shoes, which have never let me down in a race. I was shocked!! I finished 10 minutes slower than my previous times at Muncie but with the time off the bike and not properly trained I was thrilled! I could only have accomplished that by having such an awesome base 7 weeks before the race. I can't wait to see what I can do full throttle. Even "old" work works!
  • Cat, WOW what a story and very encouraging to hear! Sounds like with better pre-race review you'll be ready to crush your PRs....keep training with your brain!!! image
  • Patrick, Patrick, Patrick.....Completed Rev 3 Cedar Point Half over the weekend.  What can I say, except...WON MY AGE GROUP!!!  Super Windy 17-25 mph, hung onto the bike for dear life, actually went faster the 2nd half of the bike, compared to everyone else who slowed down ( after I dissected all the data)  At first I was not pleased with my bike but after that I felt better that I had a smart race because I put down the run of all runs!  I'm a runner by nature but I felt so good, I kept trying to slow my feet down but they were so happy and kept a great cadence. 7:57 pace.( mile 13 @  7:47)  I ran down  2 ladies for the win.  My husband surprised me with a Stages powermeter so now I have to get the bike figured out before IMAZ. I am very worried about the bike for that event.  Just don't feel I have the bike stamina to pull it off, IMKY was such a epic f-minus last year.

     Thanks for the help with the success so far  

  • CATHLEEN --------- YES!!!!!! You were smart and I am pumped!! You raced that bike right and 7:57s for 13.1 is EPIC. Your husband needs to get you that "You Just Got Chicked" T-Shirt.... image

    Recover now and let's talk next week about adjustments...if you have a race report or picture, please send to chris@endurancenation.us
  • Patrick, Finished week 15 IM Race rehearsal number 1. I had one real goal for IMAZ , to not throw up on the bike as I did in IMKY for almost 60 miles. Here was my nutrition totals for this bike , I felt like crap on the bike, completed only 86.6 miles in 6 hours. My heart rate was Avg HR: 139 bpm (my zone 2), Avg Power: 120 W (low even for me, goal was 121 to start into 135) VI 1.06, my IM Z2 power zone is 128-137 and heart zone is 136-155

    total cal 1560/ 260 per hour
    total carb 347/57.8 per hour
    total sodium 3135/ 522 per hour
    liquid totals were 6 24 oz bottles

    I ran the 6 miles afterwards a prescribed 9:02 pace with walking breaks to slow things down. By the end of six, was not sure I would be able to sustain the other 20. I am 5'6 and weigh 125 pounds. Am I eating enough, or too much, I've done the math under every calculator and can't seem to nail it.
  • Cathleen, I want to help but we have to do this right. #1 you need a sweat test to see how much fluid you need to take in on race day. Once you know that, you can determine the fluids you need. Then we can talk about calories via the calculator. All of this is in the nutrition central space here: http://members.endurancenation.us/Resources/Wiki/tabid/91/Default.aspx?topic=Nutrition+Central

    Based on our math you will need 313 cals per hour (not 260) but I don't know what you are drinking / eating to get your numbers.

    So, please schedule the sweat test above, but also give us the skinny on what you are actually eating, thanks!!!
  • Coach, I have IMAZ in a week, I have not been able to hit any of the numbers on my run Z4 workouts. (running is the fun part for me) It's been about 1.5 weeks for this occurrence. What should I do? Freakin' Out!!! Losing my confidence in rapid increments. Even the bike was difficult this week with the 3 X 6'. Shouldn't I start feeling good by now?
  • Cat...not necessarily. It's clear you need the rest right now...so plan on CHILLING OUT this week big time. Just get the basic stuff done daily but no real intensity. REST REST REST. We all process fatigue differently, but we all need to be really smart about how we plug our bodies into the race...given your current state, that's very true...I am 1.5 weeks behind you in terms of finding out, but really these final workouts aren't about the workout itself (hitting zones) as they are about getting you ready to race...which, as I stated before, is about REST. Get to it!! Please keep me posted!
  • Patrick, I raced IM KY last year in 14:33, horrid day, threw up on bike, sick on run, and 6 months of stress leading up to the finish line, but so proud I finished.  2013 I join EN, signed up for  IMAZ and drank the kool-aid. 

    On my whiteboard, next to the computrainer I wrote 14:33 to 12:30 and there it stayed for the next year.  Had several ups and downs with injuries and fatigue especially in the last 7 weeks leading up to IMAZ.  But I refused to change the goal, I worked too hard until that point.  Big thanks to my chiropractor for getting my knee back (a burst bakers cyst after Rev 3 in Sept)

    I finished IMAZ in 12:31!!!  Swim was spot on; bike was a bit slow avg 17.69 mph, I have a mental block on the bike ( my heart rate monitor did not pick up on the 910 or edge ( worked fine that morning setting up and the next day) and the Stages Power meter uncalibrated itself, so I raced all perceived exertion ; and run was great until after mile 12, then the stomach shut down.  Tried triage of coke and slowing down but it never rallied. I took in a  gel at miles 3,6,9,12 - but I couldn't even look at perform without vurping.  Need to fix that in 2014  not sure what to do.

    But again Thank you thank you thank you for your help!!  Next up IMMT.  Lets fix that bike thingy in 2014 and get me some balls.  Also I think I need to have my last long bike earlier than 2 weeks out, I was exhausted.

  • CATHLEEN!!!!!! That is awesome...you did all that work, and all that focus, and you EARNED EVERY SECOND on race day. You are right, there is more to do from nutrition and definitely bulletproofing technology (!!!), but you have really set the stage here for incredible gains...please rest up and let's get ready to crush 2014.

    Color me impressed...

    ~ P
  • Patrick, I've been out of the groove for about a month due to my Father having a stroke, got back on the bike and treadmill this weekend with my Trish Marshall. Rested legs felt great but I know I'm way far behind in the outseason. First race is June 1/2 Iron distance. How do I triage the out season.
  • @Cathleen, so sorry to hear about your dad. image Re your training, I think the best thing to do is to jump into the GetFaster plan, starting tomorrow, set it to end in 6 weeks (it's a 6 week plan), then do it for as many weeks as you can until you bump into 10 weeks to your Half Iron. If you tell me your June race date I can be more specific.

    I say GetFast plan since you have been away from the OS so long and we need to start putting you out there with an eye towards your actual season -- it is a bit more work than the traditional OS, so if that's not an option, please let me know!
  • Patrick, the 1/2 iron distance is June 8th. My original plan had out season ending 4/7, swim camp training plan for two weeks, then HIM plan weeks 15-18 for weeks 4/28 thru 5/25. I loaded the Get Faster plan, it shows as 8 weeks so I am beginning at week 3? The swim should be a challenge :} I will try this and see if its too much and let you know. I started to practice being grateful for what I have, as I got sucked into the abyss and lost my way earlier. Thank you for helping.
  • Cat, sorry, set the Get Fast to end in 8 weeks..I want you doing Weeks 1-3 (I think that's the math you gave above), then going to HIM...wonder why I thought GF was 6 not 8 wks...We'll get you there...practice daily 100% -- as in give it your best as that's all you can ask for! I tell myself that almost daily. I may not be the best dad, but I am giving 100%...that's what matters! image
  • Hi coach, just wanted to check in. In the HIM plan for race on June 8th. and getting there slowly but surely. Thank you for your help. I didn't have a goal for the ironman Mont Tremblant in August but Trish Marshall came up with one for me. I want my run back. I know a smart bike sets up a good run, I've experienced that in the HIM world, however I did a smart bike in Arizona and still couldn't rally my run. Running is my therapy, the place that makes sense to me, it makes me feel strong. Would it be wise to add another run or smarter to add another bike? I've stagnated on my bike, I've not increased in watts in 2 years. I don't want to sound whiny I am grateful. or just stick with the plan.
  • CBW - who am I to tell you that your goal isn't worth chasing? I love it! (Note that we need to give Trish special gift.)

    Let's start this process by helping me understand what it means to get your Rundback. Specifically, what was your run before so we can determine what back is. Also would love to see you the file or the data from the file of your ride in Arizona to understand what happened there. As well as what you eat on the bike because that matters too.

    Let's do this!!
  • Patrick, I placed my IMAZ 2013 data in the crucible email along with the pertinents. What I mean by my run back. It' s simplistic , if I have happy feet then its a good race. The time usually follows. I just did a 10K in Naples, FL on April 5th and ran a 45:08, not my best, but it was a fight, not happy feet. But I'm okay with that given the circumstances of missing training due to my Dads stoke and the harsh Michigan winter. I have it in me to run better in an Ironman, I know it, I feel it. I've been running for 35 years, it has to better than a 04:29:57 (10:18/mi ) as in IMAZ.

  • I'm not a data guru so I'm sure I sent the crucible wrong. not sure how to get a WKO or CSV from a stages/garmin set up. I watch the video and was lost.
  • 5:22:56 at the Grand Rapids 70.3 Long Course Qualifier. A new PR. Threw down a run of 1:42:08. I biked smart, faster on the second half even with the wind in our faces. probably a little heavy on the nutrition. I'll have to play around with that. Had three gels, I can probably take it down to two with the perform. Had to pee WAY TO LONG in T-1.
    My heart rate averaged 161 which is top of Z3 for me for the ride but my power was 137 which is top of Z2 for me, IF was .78 ( no sleep for two nights before, the was a boom boom sexy party Friday night until 6:30 a.m. and just HIM anxiety the next)
    I wanted to throw down a run, I took off the heart rate strap and raced. I can't breathe with that thing on while running. Plus the numbers climb really high and freak me out. So I ran the the first 11 miles with my head and my legs and the last 2 with my heart, because there was nothing left in the legs. The last two were my near fastest.

    Now onto IM Mont Tremblant training. Quads are tired from the bike.
    i am in week 11 of intermediate, I took off monday and tuesday and mainly stretched.wondering what to the rest of the week. supposed to have a big day on saturday.
  • FYI the boom boom sexy party was in the room above us, not my room/ ;
  • Cat that's awesome. Great performance and some solid confidence building as well. Plus the nutrition lessons...let's keep those. Just chill it until Thursday. Given your epic run we want a run in the 60-75' time frame but that's it. So Wed is spin + short easy run. Goal is back and ready for the weekend at 100%!!
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