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NOS 2014 Week 1, Bike Workouts (FTP Baby!)

Boom!  It is go time everyone.  Let's hear about those FTP tests and 1st set of intervals.  Don't try to be a hero this week.  Set your baseline and get ready for 14 weeks of hard work.

Good luck!

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  • Completed FTP test tonight since catching a flight to Denver in the morning.

    Starting the OS with lots of room to improve... 198 FTP. image
  • http://connect.garmin.com/activity/396471262
    Finished the Bike Test, FTP 260W & VO2 288W. Run test gave me a vdot of 47.04. Just finished my first 6 X 2 intervals. Was strong setting these marks:
    292W, 287W, 308W, 304W, 300W & 298W. Welcome to the "Ouch Season"!
    Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it.
    Steve Prefontaine
  • No bike test for me today, as Coach P recommended an extra day of rest after my 5k on Saturday. Will do mine tomorrow morning --- looking forward to seeing everyone else's results today. Get it done!
  • First bike test.  40' on trainer.  AG 60-64. Avg HR 130, 12.32 m, 18.5 mph.  Rest tomorrow and 5k test run on wednesday. The journey officially begins.


  • Posted By Edwin Croucher on 27 Oct 2013 08:44 PM


    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/396471262

    Finished the Bike Test, FTP 260W & VO2 288W. Run test gave me a vdot of 47.04. Just finished my first 6 X 2 intervals. Was strong setting these marks:

    292W, 287W, 308W, 304W, 300W & 298W. Welcome to the "Ouch Season"!

    Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it.

    Steve Prefontaine


    Uh, these almost look like end of OS numbers!    Well done, Edwin.

  • I did my bike test this morning on the trainer. On Saturday, I ran a local 5K for my run test. I don't know if another day of rest would have made the bike test any better. I have been resting pretty hard since IMLT.

    Rubin

  • Major reality check for my first bike test:

    VO2 = 280w (down from peak of 312w Spring 2013)
    FTP = 218w (down from peak 248w Spring 2013) ---- That hurts!

    Takeaways: Time to get serious and drinking beer the day prior to a test day does not improve your FTP

    Funny how it takes so much work to build FTP but so little time to tear it down!
  • Surprised myself on this morning's bike test. Was shooting for FTP of ~255, but felt good and kept building and finished at an all-time high of 265. Did the VO2 interval at 306, which I'll have to improve, as this was based on my 255 FTP estimate. Now on to losing 10 lbs, building on the FTP, and taming some hills next summer!
  • And we are off!  Avg HR 145, 12.08 mi., 18.1 ave. mph.  Good to have a baseline to ride away from.
  • Ok I am an old man of 56 but I LOVE the bike. At the time of my death I would like my bike to be included in my coffin! Here are my numbers

    176 pounds

    297 FTP

    355 VO2

    3.72 watts/kg

    My goal is to be at 325 by the end of OS

  • Damn I totally forgot how HARD that 5' All-Out segment is ... man that was sick image

    Vo2max "All-Out" segment:
    NP 378W / Avg HR 170 / 4.9 W/kg

    20' TT segment
    NP 294W / Avg HR 173 / 3.8W/kg
    So my actual FTP dials in at 279W which is 20W below the value I was hoping for but I'll take it image ...
    There's more work ahead of me than I expected image BRING IT OOOON

    http://tpks.ws/86t0

  • Posted By Ray Brown on 28 Oct 2013 02:28 PM

    Ok I am an old man of 56 but I LOVE the bike. At the time of my death I would like my bike to be included in my coffin! Here are my numbers

    176 pounds

    297 FTP

    355 VO2

    3.72 watts/kg

    My goal is to be at 325 by the end of OS

    Holy cow that's some awesome high scores!!

  • Thanks Stefan. I got hit by a motorcycle while riding the bike so my run has been non existent the past two years while trying to recover from shoulder surgery. So I made lemonade out of the situation and focused big time on the bike. I think I have close to 350 workouts on Trainer Road. Not unusual to do an 8 hour trainer ride! I love it. Now if I could be like you and RUN I would be very happy.
  • OMG 8 hours on the trainer ... this is insane ... you are a beast Ray!!

    I can remember to only time I did a trainer ride for a little bit over 4 hours and since then I swear to myself I will NEVER EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!

     

    Damn I just realized I've some MASSIVE gap in my Vo2-vs-FTP ratio (averaged about 40W higher in the 5min segment than the calculator gives me for Zone 5) ... which value should I now go with??

  • I was doing several RAAM 200 mile races last year so it required a lot of time in the saddle. The long guys are a different breed! MY goal is to do RAAM Solo before I am 60 so I need to kick into gear. Based on your strength we could do a warmup as a two man team !
  • ray = crazy.    though i do most of my biking on the trainer.

    my ftp/vo2 work was yesterday at the cyclocross race.  but unfortunaely i can't get power on my cross bike.     

  • Did my bike test and also tested my new home trainer. The first time ever I did ride with power.



    FTP: 217

    VO2: 263 

    weight: 83 kg

    >2.6 W/kg



    Guess I have a lot to improve...or was I just taking it too easy? Or some fatigue is left in my legs from the Half Marathon race on Sunday.



  • FTP clocked in at 191.  Ouch!  I suppose it's time to stop drinking and eating out 3+ nights per week. Can't wait for Wednesday's run test - it's not going to be pretty!  Oh well, all the more room for improvement. . .

  • My first time training with power also.

    53 years old

    6' 2"
    weight 187
    FTP: 200
    VO2:236

  • Came home to an empty house. Glad no one could see what I was doing to myself. I must remember to turn on the fan.

    Last year started the Outseason with an FTP of 183 and ended with an FTP of 213.

    This year I start the Outseason with an FTP of 206. (assuming my math is correct power 217 x .95)

    My VO2 Max was 261 with a heat rate of 153.

    I need a nap, and the Red Sox are on tonight. It is going to be a long night.

    http://www.trainingpeaks.com/av/PD3KQPSY7RDTZW5275OMYBQVWE

  • Since I am new to power, I'm not sure what numbers are most important yet, so taking my cue from the other posts:

    FTP - 283, AVHR 167
    VO2 Max - 318 (at only 1.12% of my FTP, I know I need some work on this)
    W/kg - 3.46

    Now, the run test, different matter. The inactivity the last 4 weeks will certainly show! I know I am slow and I got the numbers to prove it!
  • 40' HR bike test - Avg Speed 17.3. Distance 11.6, Avg. HR 138



    http://www.trainingpeaks.com/av/2UTBQNOLZP6HB7FJNHZN4XEPJY

    This gives me my HR zones. Is there a way to get an FTP estimate from this? I have an ANT+ dongle coming later this week so I hope to switch to using the virtual power in TrainerRoad. I am not exactly sure how I will use these results there. Then someday (soon) hopefully I can get a power meter. I want my FTP...


  • Posted By Joe Hallatschek on 28 Oct 2013 06:42 PM


    Since I am new to power, I'm not sure what numbers are most important yet, so taking my cue from the other posts:



    FTP - 283, AVHR 167

    VO2 Max - 318 (at only 1.12% of my FTP, I know I need some work on this)

    W/kg - 3.46



    Now, the run test, different matter. The inactivity the last 4 weeks will certainly show! I know I am slow and I got the numbers to prove it!

    With power, w/kg. is most important.  I am 6' 4" and 200ish pounds and when I am done with OS I should be sitting at ~ 280 watts as FT.  There is pretty much no way a 5' 0" 100 pound chica can push that much power (Unless she is Kim Dubord.  :-) &nbspimage  So FT is just a number.

    Now, if you are sitting at a w/kg. of 3.0 and you get it up to 3.6+ while holding the same power you are lighter AND more aerodynamic at any size.  You will be faster.  Having a hight FT is simply a bonus.

    Point being . . . body comp is very important.

    my .02.

  • John- Thanks! But I WISH I was 100lbs!

    So I've been trying to catch up on "stuff" after being on EN hiatus for the month of Oct. and can't figure out what FTP test method we're using this year... 5' + 20' or the 20-2-20 version? (I saw both in 2 different places)
  • Good results everyone, keep the posts coming!

    Kim, the 'official' test is now the 5+20 minute test. Some folks (like me) use the 'old' 20x2(2). Still others are using SF Rubber Glove. Bottom line, while I believe R&P would prefer us to use the 5+20, as long as you benchmark and do future tests using the same technique, I think you're good. However you get your measurement, just make sure you get it and you compare apples to apples moving forward.

    Now get after it!
  • Baseline FTP test done.

    Had been doing a little bit of TR stuff for the last few weeks to keep the feel. But, been mostly running. Took a couple of days off leading into this cuz my achilles had tightened up. A combination of those factors plus lots of caffeine and Linkin Park led to pretty good bike session. Was surprised it turned out much higher than the FTP that I had been using over the last 4 weeks on TR.

    Did hack it just a touch cuz I was time crunched. Reduced the recovery time between the VO2 and FTP from 10' to 4' and had to cut the FTP session from 20' to 17'. Neutralizing hack factors. I'm not too worried about cutting the test 3' this time around cuz I was trending up, consistently, and felt plenty strong at that point. Wish it were done precisely, but I did what had to do, knowing that there's plenty of tests and workouts that will provide opportunity to correct this swag if I'm way off.


    Here we go!
  • Thanks Roy! That's weird that the new OS ebook shows 20-2-20. I much prefer 5-20!
  • OK so I tested tonight using virtual power with Trainer Road. I've never ridden with power before so I have nothing to compare these numbers to, but they seem like they may be too high. I've also posted my average speed as a reference, and I know my average speeds are correct because they're from my Garmin 310xt which I've been using with this trainer for 3 years now. Maybe someone smarter than me can tell me if the power numbers seem off based on the speeds.

    I assume I want to be using the numbers from the "NP" column in Trainer Road?

    Bike FTP - 353 (164HR / 24.2 mph)
    Bike VO2- 405 (166HR / 27.5 mph)
    Run VDOT - TBD Weds
    Height / Weight - 6'4" / 213 lb
    Age: 38

    Trainer Road data: http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/448453-2014-Test-Power-5-min-20-min
    Garmin Connect data: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/396885247

    I have a Cyclops Super Magneto Pro trainer set to the "2 / Road" setting. I've got this listed in my Trainer Road profile but the actual Trainer Road application doesn't have the Super Magneto Pro so I tested with it set to Magneto.

    My previous bike test PR was 26.0 mph across the 40' HR test at the end of the 2012 OS; Again, I mention that as a reference to provide something to compare my Trainer Road virtual power numbers to.
  • Can someone refresh my memory: Why do we do both the 5' / 20' (Vo2 /FTP) tests if our zones are extrapolated from just the FTP test? In my case, my 5' vo2 test number is higher than the zones that are generated after entering my FTP. I don't think I had that problem last season, but I seem to have lost a good 30w off my FTP from peak last year. Do I manually adjust my Z5?
  • Guess I wasn't ready for this....

    Haven't been on my bike in over 12 weeks. Been run only building for a major PR at my all time favorite marathon, and was successful in that attempt. But the cost was no biking at all.

    Not sure why I believed I could jump on the saddle and make it work.... well, it didn't. So, current plan is to get some unstructured ride time in then test next week. Not too worried about missing workouts or having marginal results at first because this will be a non-IM year.

    Looks like lots of great starting numbers for everyone so far. Keep up the good work and I'll watch from the BOP!
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