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Hi!  I am in week 11 of HIM intermediate plan.  Next week is a testing week.  I am doing the surf city half marathon next Sunday (Feb 2nd).  I am wondering a) can I use that as a "test" for the run at all?  If not, should I consider doing some sort of switcharoo so that I run test this week and run long next week Sunday?  And what are your recommendations for rearranging workouts for next week if nothing is to change for this week?  

As I am typing this I feel very much like I probably have an answer in the wiki but I wasn't able to find anything on my first pass...  Your thoughts would be appreciated!!  

 

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  • @Julia, it warms my heart that you even know we HAVE a WIKI.. image Yes, you can do Surf City in Wk 12 as your run test. So this week is the regular week 11. Since Week 12 is already a test week, you follow it until Thursday, then:

    Thu - Do a 60-75' trainer session with ABP work in it (replacing Sunday ride).
    Fri - Swim as planned.
    Sat - Do Saturday ride in 90 minutes, with the 2 x 20 but no ABP work. Skip the run.
    Sun - Run the Half.
    Monday - OFF or swim only, depending how you feel!!!
  • Lol!! I try!! I am so glad I asked for guidance - I wouldn't have thought to structure that way. But it totally makes sense now. Thank you!!!
  • Quick question on this adjustment! The way it works out there is no running between Tuesday and the race? Should I add in one or two thurs/fri?? Thanks!
  • @Julia, you can do a 3 mile run with a 3-4 x 2 minute pick ups on Friday (pick ups at goal race pace). If you are feeling tired on Sat AM, feel free to dial that WKO back to an hour even....race day is looming!!! image
  • Welp... The bike test and swim test were cruddy, but at least the run felt good this morning!! Bike test was cruddy from no sleep and poor diet. Swim test I was just a wet poodle. Heres to shaking it off tor the weekend! Thanks for the guidance!!
  • Oh and there was also construction on my bike test route!!! Given im an HR athlete that jacks it all up too... (Shakes head)
  • @Julia, the testing gods were out to get you...next time!!!! My least favorite thing is getting stuck behind a school bus....for miles...
  • Haahaa!! Ok, this should be my last Q. I now have a shiny brand spanking new PR for a half marathon!! How do I incorporate that pace into my running work?? Thank you!!
  • WOOT!!!! I hope you are shouting that from the mountain tops...and everywhere else too!!! So pumped for you...

    In general a new HM PR doesn't yield a vDOT that's too hard to get into training for mile repeats, etc. If it is hard for you, just 1/2 the different. So if your old vDOT was 38 and the new one is 41, then call it 39.5, run the zones in the EN Calculator and follow them for a week....then the subsequent week you can bump it up to 41!!!

    It's a nice problem to have.... image
  • Ok coach P here's a puzzle... Next week test week (HIM intermediate wk 17)... Still construction on my bike route during the week. (Remember last test) Weekends ok. What to do about my bike test? Would like to retest but doing mullholand prelude Saturday - 90 miles. Lotsa climbing... Not sure how to rearrange. I've tried testing indoors but with dismal results. Just can't go for 40 mins hard inside. :/
    Sorry about the short sentences sending from trainer... (Gasp gasp)...
    Should I switch something in wk 18? Let it go?will be months since last bike test. :/
    Your thoughts appreciated!!!! :):)
  • Julia, let's swap it to week 18, so replace with 2 x 20 or similar interval set. Then take Monday off next week...and test on Tuesday!!! Deal?

    ps you GOTTA put up pictures from your ride!!! image
  • Hi coachP! So there's still weekday construction on my bike test route. Can I do an ABP on Wednesday (trainer) then test Saturday and do Saturdays ride on Sunday?
  • @Julia, yes...that's okay...but keep friday OFF or very, very light in prep for Sat test...testing at the end of the week is usually "harder" for some reason, so let's eliminate any excuses!!! image
  • yes sir!!!  Definitely coming to that point where rest is cherished.    

    Thanks!!

  • Hello!!  My questions are about wk 13 in the HIM intermediate plan.  I will be gone from Friday-Sunday, and traveling on Friday and Sunday of that week.  I will have my running shoes with me but no bike.  I am working on finding a pool, but it looks like many of the local ones are closed until 2015.  (!)   (mental note: do not move to broken arrow, Oklahoma)  I think I can likely do workouts Saturday and Sunday morning.  What are your recommendations for that week?  I am actually in week 12 right now but I am thinking ahead to next week, so that I can give myself plenty of time to get it sorted.  

    Thank you for your thoughts!!

    Julia 

  • Mentally noted!! I would move Wed bike/run to Tuesday, Tuesday run to Wed, ABP ride to Thursday. Sat is the long run; Fri and Sun are up to you -- I'd say 45' steady runs with some strides at the end. You lose one bike but it's not a big issue if you can get back on track with the following week!
  • ok sounds like a good plan!!  Definitely possible to be back on track the following week.   Thank you!! 

  • Halloo!  I have a micro Q for this week.  Sunday my boyfriend and I are in an all day motorcycle class.  (WEEHEE!),  but it takes out my Sunday ABP ride.  I am in wk 13 of 20 for IM intermediate plan.  What are your thoughts for adjustments to my workouts...? 

    Thank you!!!   

  • Wow, super cool!!! Since it's just one ride, I'd add a bit more time to your Saturday session on the bike (drop that run). So if it was a 4 hour ride, go like 4.5 or 5...that's really it...you still have quite a few weeks left.

    That said, I'd pay cash money to have a pic of you in full motokit flashing the EN gang sign so Coach Rich isn't the only one here! image
  • Hi Coach P!  

    While I love to interact with you, I am really bummed to be back here again.  Sooooo, last night I dropped a rather large cookie sheet on my big toe.  Holy awful, batman.   Went to urgent care for an x ray and thankfully it's not broken, and barely even swollen actually.  It is definitely a vibrant sunset shade of purple though.  Dr said 2-3 days rest and see how it goes.  This morning was much better than last night, but it's a bit throbby again at the end of the day.  BOO. HOO.  But, better than broken.  

    SO, my question is this:  This weekend was supposed to be big camp week!!!  As I am (luckily??) unemployed at the moment, I really wanted to do these workouts to get to push myself into that tired space and explore how that goes.  I don't normally get to do that when I have a normal job.  Is there any way I can do this 3 day sequence maybe early next week if I'm ready or switch to next weekend?  I do want to give the toe proper rest most importantly, but I really don't want to let go of that training sequence... especially since I have relatively endless flexibility right now  :/  What do you think?  

    OH!!  And although I totally dropped the ball on getting the EN sign picture when we did the sportbike day, we did get some great shots out there!!  I out one in below for fun. I hope it gets through!  

  • I think you should be able to ride in your tri shoes no issues...so I'd like you to get the riding in ...and you can add in some swimming to accommodate non running. That okay?

    If it's no exercise right now, then let me know...
  • Doctor said 2-3 days rest then I take it as it goes. I am trying to be a real angel and resting completely with ice and elevation for 3 days.  That third day will be tomorrow (thursday), leaving me chomping at the bit for Friday.  So maybe I can go for it Friday and see how that ride goes?  Should I swim before the ride on Friday or get some swimming in before the ride Saturday since it will be more time feasible?  

    I'd like to put my foot in a running shoe tomorrow to see how it steps and feels to know whether or not 6 miles post Friday is out of the question...    

  • So....what's the good word?
  • Oh you are so awesome for checking in!! I did it!!! It was 95 degrees out both ride days so I only ran two miles for the brick. In retrospect I might have been able to run a bit longer distance by basically doing laps around the water fountain (for body cooling) but I thought I'd play it safe since I had the rest of the weekend to go. But for the Sunday run I stayed closer to home and got in 15 plus miles with nary a peep from my toe!!! Relaxing today. imageimage Happy girl!!!
  • EPIC! You rock...nicely done!
  • Hi Coach P!!

    Just back from Ironman Canada!!  really great race, and I was (finally) quite happy with my marathon!!  There is a lot for me to do in terms of race reports and pictures, but I am also in the midst of juggling job interviews so I will get to it as soon as I can breathe a bit.  

    My question!!  I may have ruptured a muscle or tendon in my lower forearm during the race.  (said urgent care doc).  So ultimately swimming is out right now.  Will se sports MD friday to see how long I need to rest it.  What are your thoughts on the IM transition plan with this in mind?  I haven't put up anything on the schedule because of job front, so there are no pressing things.  But I would rather not turn into a slug.  I know swimming is the easy thing to keep one moving in the first post ironman week or two, so should I take a few more walks...?  

    Thanks!!  

  • Congrats again...what a race (and day!). I am okay with the walking / hiking aspect...and easy cycling...our only goal here is really to stay loose, etc! Can't wait to see the report...
  • Hi Coach P!!

    My micro Q is for next week, week 6 of out season, intermediate run durability plan. My new job has me traveling a lot. Next week my access to a bike or trainer is going to be a bit spotty. I don't think I'll be able to get on a bike for the Tuesday, but am more optimistic about Thursday and should be home Saturday. Running shoes and a treadmill are in the plan however. What should I do, and are there any mods I should consider for this weekend to account for the coming week?

    Thank you!!!
  • Julia, no real edits to get worried about. Go FTP ride on Thursday, Sat as planned, Sunday do the VO2 ride from Thursday. Try to get in your normal run week "time" without forcing a long ride on a tmill. So if this means running more frequently, I'll take it.

    Hope you are somewhere nice!!!
  • I am *now*.  In beautiful San Francisco.  Earlier in the week I was in Iowa.  Good grief.  Hotel in SF has a nice gym, then I'm going to have to gym it again over the weekend just because I have another conference to go to and it start super early so it's going to be too dark to bike really hard safely.  Getting the hang of fitting in the workouts with the new job is tough, but I am bound and determined!!  You may see more of the same types of Qs from me more often now...  

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