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IM MD - Making Lemonade

Hey IM MD peeps... let's start some making lemonade out of lemons and plan what's next.  I'm looking forward to hearing from IM MD to see what they'll do for us, but I'm already thinking of a few options.  I've always wanted to do IM Cozumel and it's still open (and my hubby already made hotel res today!), so... we're leaning in that direction... so far.  Now about that more weeks of long runs / rides... ai yi yi!!

What are you all thinking?  Take your time... I know we're all still processing today!

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  • I'm all in for IMMD. Its either that race this year or I chalk this up to "oh well". I still accomplished many cool things during the 12 week build and set a few PRs along the way. No one, not even a stupid hurricane, can take those training logs away.

    I have a non triathlon related project I was planning to begin post race, so I don't really want to extend this thing past Oct 17. ugh.

    fingers crossed that this thing will come and go, limited damage, water will receed and race is a go for 17 October. the question for me is how much less, more, or equal fitness will I have (what about those nagging end of season injuries that always seem to lurk around this time of year).
  • Love your attitude guys!!

    FWIW I think I'm set on an Oct. 17th race....did IMFL last two years, and was really looking forward to being done earlier in the year, so don't want to stretch it out any further. Plus, I can see my fitness carrying forward to the 17th(get in a good week next week....have reached out to coach P to see exactly what that week should consist of).

    Soooo, my plan is to wait to Tue. To see if IMMD 2.0 is a go, and if not then get in on B2B.....hoping there will still by space available by then, and if not then I'll take it as a sign it wasn't meant to be this year I guess.
  • I am following Steve's plan...hope for IMMD with B2B as a back up (I already grabbed a slot). I am going to run long today, swim tomorrow, and ride long (on the trainer most likely) on Saturday, rest Sunday. I looked at signing up for Cozumel but I would like to be done as soon as possible and didn't want to add that much expense. I am fortunate to have friends to stay with in both MD and NC and both are driving distance for me.

    Full disclosure, I took yesterday off, ate a giant cheeseburger and had a few beers to drown my sorrows. Today I am back at it for another 2 weeks. I hope many of us get a chance to race together in 2 weeks. Only thing I am not looking forward to is another taper week!
  • Hey Sarah, I too "went off the wagon" yesterday - huge bucket of buttered popcorn at the movies, 1/2 bottle of wine, and Ben & Jerrys New York Super Fudge Chunk. ??
  • I knocked the wagon over with bourbon. Beer has been a constant throuhhout. The logistics for IMMD 2.0 seem to be too much. Ton of stuff scheduled that week. B2b is doable w friday checkin and 2 hour drive. Already had a room bc planned to celebrate IMMD completion in the port city.
  • Keith, I hear you.
    For me IMMD is two hours away, so switching to B2B is harder. And I honestly really don't want to spend the $$ on another registration.

    Waiting until Mon/Tue for an update from IM is gonna kind of suck.
  • Ha, wagon, what wagon? I enjoyed a very large consolation margarita and plate of french fries for dinner last night, followed by Key lime pie!

    My main reason for doing IMMD in the first place was to race with and hang with my Maryland friends. They are already booked Oct 17 so regardless of what WTC does, they won't be going back. They are actually hoping to get into IMFL if that becomes an option. So I have little motivation at this point to return to Cambridge. IMFL just doesn't work for me for several reasons (I'm out of vacation time and logistics for that race would put me in the negative, plus cost of travel, shipping bike, hotel room, etc is more than registration at B2B would be, and "been there done that"- IMFL was my first)

    So, I'm considering B2B at this point. It's just a little over 4 hours away for me, I have friends going to do the half who have room at their apartment (free lodging), I know of 2 other friends who will be racing the full, and Friday check-in with Saturday race means minimal vacation time suck. So, it's my best "lemonade" option if I go with an Ironman.

    OTOH- it will cost another $500 and with the weather, I have very little chances of getting in good solid training this weekend. So I'm a little worried about feeling sharp on race day. And finally, my original plan was to do a 3-4 day backpacking trip in the mountains with my hubby that weekend. So doing IM means sacrificing mountain time with sweetie, something I treasure.

    Bottom line, I'm going to try to keep fitness up (see how much bike/run I can do in this weather) and let my head digest all this spin for a few days before I make a final decision. But at least I've narrowed it down!
  • It is a re-scheduled IMMD or bust for us. We (my wife and I) planned to go to New York the weekend of the 17th. Now, we may go to New York this weekend and race IMMD on the new date. If the race does not take place on the 17th, it is on to marathon season for us.
  • Funny enough, my wife actually suggested I do a solo ironman and she and some friends would come out and support me.

    Not sure about that one.
  • I also feel like 2 weeks from now, I won't be in optimal IM shape; I was feeling under-trained before... with another 2 weeks of kind of weird training (go long or not, another taper, etc...), I think I would be woefully under-prepared. This trip was also going to be a really fun meet-up with east coast family members & college buddies; there's no way they'd all do it again in 2 weeks. I'm thinking that ship has sailed, and I need a re-set.

    150 slots left for IM Coz - lodging is pretty cheap and plentiful; I think we're going to make a Thanksgiving vacay out of it. Hubby and daughter are really excited; friends who just did Coz 70.3 raved about it; I want to swim with the fishies & coral; I think I'm going to pull the trigger... too nervous to wait til IM MD makes up their mind next Tuesday. Hoping I don't regret this as I head out on another 6 hour race rehearsal ride(s) in the next 2 months! image
  • Julie,
    I think for someone coming from CA, making a change like that is a reasonable decision. Best of luck. I saw you ask Rich how to approach your training. I would imagine there would be some tweaks from the standard plan as to what you need to do for the next 6 weeks. It will be interesting to see what he recommends.

    Raining like crazy in VA. Ran 6 yesterday, Did a 50 minute bike this morning, running this afternoon on the T-mill, and mentally ready to do a long bike on the trainer tomorrow. Long run on Sunday. All of that will be with my fingers crossed that the race is a "go" for the 17th. I spoke with my Mom last night who I'm pretty sure is way more upset about all of this than I am. She's really bummed that she probably won't be able to attend if the race is rescheduled for the 17th. I talked her down off the ledge, told her I was ok either way.

    I did read through a lot of Facebook comments under the IMMD announcement and was amazed at all the different perspectives. People want transfers to IMFL, People want it just cancelled and a roll over to next year, a lot of people who just won't make it for the 17th.

    I had a funny thought last night. If you were a person trying to KQ, what would you do. Switch to Coz, switch to FL...

    What if the top 24% of my age group doesn't show up and somehow I KQ by accident. Wouldn't that be a hoot.
  • If they hold it on the 17th and retain the slots- I'd say folks interested in a KQ should consider making it happen! I'm no where near that pointy end so it's not really a factor for me, but if I were........

    Having trouble staying motivated to get up at o'dark 30 to get in workouts right now (the weather sure doesn't help). It's like the air has been let out of my balloon.
  • Nemo, I hear you on the weather impacting motivation. Today was the first I can recall that I wasn't able to do my bike and then go for a run afterwards. I don't run in the dark, cold, and rain. off to the T-mill this afternoon.

    I think I've said it before, but I think the main impact of this cancellation and pending reschedule is Mental.
  • I hear you both on battling the weather and its impact on mojo. I ran 15 miles yesterday evening for 2nd last long run. Planning a long swim in the pool for tonight and gearing up for a long trainer ride tomorrow. I have to say I actually felt pretty good last night, it was nice the shake off the taper cob webs and it really cleared my head. My new narrative is that nothing can happen on race day that will shake me now if I can stay motivated to see these 2.5 weeks through.
  • Great attitude, Sarah! Nate, I hear ya about KQ... believe me, I've thought about that A LOT! I may very well be majorly regretting my decision if the race occurs and I look at F55-59 results. But, the ship has sailed and my family is now very excited about Thanksgiving in the Caribbean! I hope some other ENers join me, but so far I don't see anyone signed up on the master race list.

    Re: tweaking plan, I wasn't sure where to post that question as I would love group input too. Suggestions?

    Hang in there, you IM East Coast somewheres! Nate's right... major impact is mental; thank goodness we've got our awesome teammates to help get us through!
  • I loved Cozumel! great race. KQ first time I did it. Many improvements in swim course. better fish than Kona and fast swim. flat but windy, can be very hot can rain a lot, bring bug spray
  • I guess I will need to use EN Key #1 and "execute" a plan now that IMMD may be rescheduled. B2B is usually too cold for an old guy like me ( I cry way too easy in the cold). i'll have to look around EN world and see how I feel. Alternative "A" is the possible 10/17 reschedule. My goal is an IM in 2015 (part of my 3 year plan). IM Florida may be necessary (if i can find the $!). I'm still praying for the 17th.
  • Jim- FWIW, now that B2B is moved up on the calendar to Oct 17, I'd think it's likely to be warmer than the rescheduled IMMD.
  • If you haven't been following the Facebook Group for IMMD, you might not get all these jokes, but I still think you'll find it funny!
    http://captiongenerator.com/62380/Hitler-reacts-to-IMMD-2015-Cancellation
  • Man, so sorry for the friction and disappointment that you're all dealing it but fun to how you're turning to beer, bourbon and ice cream for assistance!

    Not sure what I would do in your situation, with so many costs associated with any alternatives. I have two local friends who only found out about the cancellation during their layover in MN on the flight out on Wednesday...that would suck!

  • I pulled this forum string so I could whine about my lack of motivation. Reading your comments has helped some. I have to be honest, this cancellation and uncertainty may tremendously affect my performance no matter if I do B2B or IMMD. My last ride of any kind was two weeks ago today. Tried to put my bike on the trainer earlier, could get my trainer wheel one and my regular wheel had the wrong skewers. This close to a race, I hate messing with my bike too much. All that to say, no ride today. I swam for thirty minutes yesterday and about 15 today. this is not the way to resume training and to be ready for IMMD on Oct 17. Plan for now is a 7-10 mile run tomorrow, weather permitting and Week 18 swim workout on Monday. Hear my cry for help!!!! No motivation, tired of training centered life......
  • Keith-you are not alone! My mood and attitude about all of this has swung back and forth so many times that I'm getting sea sick from it all! Nate has been right on point from the beginning when he says the biggest challenge for us is going to be mental, not physical.

    When I finished that last RR and started the taper I was DONE! Totally thrilled to be tapering and ready to race. Having everything sorta reset back 2 weeks to the date of that last RR all of a sudden? Nooooooooo! Ugh. Thursday I did a longish run and it felt like crap so I was even more bummed, started thinking "forget it, I'm not going back". Friday I did a short hard/fast run to blow off some anger and suddenly felt great again "hey, this might just work", then today I went out to ride because the weather was surprisingly good only to find the roads covered in standing water. That just pissed me off (my brand new chain- ruined and it's not even a race) so I got mad again and rode hard for 1 hour then shut it down. Today I spent most of the day just pissed off and struggling with trying to decide what to do next.

    From what I'm hearing- it's looking amazingly likely that they will do IMMD 2.0 on Oct 17. But my motivation to do that particular race (ie, racing with my BFF) is no longer there because she won't be able to do that date. So do I go to MD to do a race I don't have any real passion for? That doesn't sound ideal, but it is the race I've paid for, trained for and planned for and visualized for months. Or do I jump ships to B2B that same weekend and pay more money to do a race on the same day in another location on a similarly boring course so that I can have friends at the finish line (lots of OBXers going to do the half). Or- do I say F-that, time to spend my remaining vacation backpacking in the mountains with my husband -he's already sacrificed enough. I've already got Challenge Roth on the calendar for next year- and THAT's a race I'm really excited about doing!

    All that said- I still think they made the right call and I'm glad they made it when they did. And I'm super glad I'm not stuck having paid for airfare or hotel fees that I can't get back. I am luckier than most on that front.
  • I say go for the race that fuels your passion. It's such a tough day anyhow, that feeling mentally excited about it for whatever reason - friend support, locale "speaks" to you, racing with teammates, etc... - really, really helps! If you're just not feeling it anymore, I wouldn't do it and just move on. I know it's not easy, and with this situation, there's still this uncertainty about what our options even are. Once you do make a decision - whether it's to race MD 2.0 (if it happens), race B2B or some other race, say screw it for the year, or whatever - you'll feel MUCH better. It's this wishy washy period that's really tough. Do know that if you do decide to race MD 2.0, EVERY OTHER RACER will be in the same situation!

    Good luck everyone during this next week, figuring out next steps! It's all good... we are fit and strong and will live to fight another day, and THAT is cool!!!
  • Nemo and Keith, I totally hear you and get it. The note that was posted to the IMMD site on Friday seems like a good sign that the race will probably happen. I say it's at least over 50% chance its a go for 17. For some reason, I have been able to commit to one more week of solid training. I had a 48 hour period of wanting to, yell, cry, drink beer, sell my bike, and then I just decided to do it.
    Wed: skipped all workouts
    Thurs: Ran
    Friday: biked 1 hour, felt weird: Ran felt ok
    Sat: 4 hour trainer ride: felt good for 3 hours, and the 4th hour I faded. came in around 69% which is still above my goal pace
    Sunday (today) was a 15 mile run. Felt good,

    The truth is, I think I had screwed up my taper anyways. my legs were feeling terrible and even during todays long run by hamstring felt like it was going to cramp up on me a few times. I may actually come in for a better landing for a race on the 17th. I am hoping to get back in the water on Monday but get the chills just thinking about how cold that lake water will be.

    But guys, you are fit, you've done the training, and with good execution skills, you can totally do this race. It doesn't just disappear after a few weeks. Even if we are all say, 5% less fit that only equates to some small amount of time on race day. Even if the swims have fallen off (like mine) we can all dog paddle through an IM race. Especially in a wet suit. Fingers crossed the water isn't too cold. Going into an IM bike more cautiously may actually be a good thing. So, instead of JRAing for the first 30 miles maybe we push that out to 40. Or maybe slow it down once you hit mile 100. Both of those things may set your run up even better. So if traditional IM training mojo is gone adjust to something else. At a minimum keep up the run frequency for the next 1.5 weeks. maybe do a few hour long trainer rides over the next 1.5 weeks. Good enough. I have a feeling once you are on your bike during the race the mojo will come back.

    Nemo, I think the biggest mental hurdle you are up against is committing to one race over the other. You are stuck in the middle which is a weird place to be. The issue of taking vacation time may be helped a little by what they said in that last post about offering more flexible packet pick up times i.e. pick up packet and drop off equipment all on Friday.

    And the truth is, we are all stuck, not knowing for sure until we get that email or FB post saying this race is back on. During my run today, I was thinking that the main thing I want, regardless of race goals, is that finishers medal and to say I've done it 4 times.

    this is and could be all part of the challenge of doing this race...its just part of the story that we may all have if and when this race goes off and you cross that finishers line.
  • This thread has been so good to reassure me I'm not alone in the mental challenges that have come with canceling the Oct. 3rd race date.

    Totally can relate to the 48 hr period that Nate talked about above, and FWIW completely agree with him about the fitness being there...so much of this is mental, and how come the 17th the time difference (if any) will be negligible compared to what it might have been on the 3rd.

    Like you too Nate, I think a 2.0 version on the 17th may actually be a blessing in disguise for me. I had been having, and am now starting to feel I'm getting over, a nagging "tickle" in the chest that had pretty much been with me all through the taper. Took Wed. and Thur. totally off, had a good session in the pool Fri. including 10x100 at 5 sec/100 quicker than it had been the last few weeks. Got in a solid 3hr. ABP trainer ride Sat. and plan on just repeating weeks 19 and 20 starting this Mon.

    And again like Nate, really just want to cap off the year with a finishers medal (will be 3rd for me), with smart execution and the chance to see if I can improve my ability to keep pushing myself thru the hurt on the run......for me that was the big goal this year: be able to put together a "no damage" swim, smartly executed bike, and a more "durable" run(not so much from increased fitness, but from increased experience/confidence).

    In addition to the above, while I totally agree with the sentiment that completing the training for an IM is a significant accomplishment in and of itself, I know that those in my family (wife first and foremost of course) who have sacrificed in my behalf will feel better for all they've done if I get to toe the starting line.....and get the finishers medal??
  • Nate- you are exactly right about all of it and echoing much of the conclusions I started to come to this afternoon.

    I was going to do a 3 hr trainer ride today but couldn't muster the enthusiasm. So I joined a running club run for a little over 6 miles of just social running. I haven't had that kind of run in MONTHS! It was good for my soul.

    Julie- what you said about the indecision really struck home with me too. I realized most of my anxiety over all of this is the just not making a decision part. And Nate is right about being "stuck in the middle" too. So I've at least finalized one decision. I won't be doing B2B. Regardless of IMMD 2.0 happening or not, it simply doesn't really make sense. I'm not paying another $500+ registration fee to go do a race I haven't ever had a desire to do. If this were my first IM, I would probably feel differently. But it's my 5th. I can wait until Challenge Roth if necessary to click the 5th notch on my belt.

    So now I wait until Tuesday to find out what they decide, and I'll figure the rest out at that time. The one thing I will admit that is starting to grow on me is the idea of being one of the few people who have ever done an Ironman that was rescheduled by 2 week. Like Nate said, having that as part of the story would be kinda cool. But like Scarlet O'hara said "I can't think about this now! I'll go crazy if I do! I'll think about it tomorrow." (or perhaps Tuesday).
  • Jarie is my Facebook connection. I'm an email guy. Did training for Blackwater Creek NWR bike route on Mashoes rd yesterday and some run in the rain and wind in my neighbor hood today, don't know how to put photos here ao i'll try elsewhere. still hoping for IMMD. B2B won't help 4 a KO. IMFL would and is less than a day from Fort Myers Beach.
  • It's official, IMMD 2.0 is scheduled for October 17! Wow. Time to make a decision.
  • My wife and I are in for 10/17.
  • I'm in for 10/17 too.
    My friend down there is really excited that they'll be able to pull this off. The town is pulling out the stops to make it happen.
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