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Training Peaks Q & A Thread

With the “team / OS-wide focus on tracking training data” and Training Peaks being the recommended platform to log and analyze this data, there will be many of us who have lots of questions.  It would be great to have a centralized location for information on how to use TP, especially for us newbies.  Post your questions here and hopefully some of the more enlightened members will share their wisdom, tips and tricks for using TP.



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  • Great idea. I will monitor this. I have been using TrainingPeaks for about 5 years so have a bunch of experience.
  • Can we start by posting the discount coupon that I think I saw floating around somewhere? My OS does not start until December/January but if I can get a jump on TP that would be great.
  • Ditto what Clark said. Also, does anybody know how to mass upload data from Garmin Connect into TP? I seem to recall checking a box when I created the TP account to have 30 days of garmin data automagically moved to TP but that didn't seem to happen. Seems that for the TSB and CTL metrics to be useful you need some history.
  • @Dave, I'm pretty sure there is not a way to bulk upload Garmin Connect files to TP. You can do that with TrainerRoad files though
  • I haven't had a chance to read/digest all of this concerning syncing TP and Garmin, but here's a good place to start for questions above:



    http://help.trainingpeaks.com/hc/en-us/articles/204070864-Garmin-Connect-AutoSync-FAQs

     

    @Dave, it looks like the last 30 days will be sync'd up once you upload a new workout.

  • Thanks Doug! I was literally just looking around for the link to the EN discount for TP. Glad you started this thread!!

  • Posted By Dave Nesom on 03 Nov 2015 12:37 PM



    does anybody know how to mass upload data from Garmin Connect into TP?


    If you have taken the FIT or TCX files off the device and saved them in a folder on your computer you should be able to select them all and drag/drop them into your browser when it is viewing the TrainingPeaks calendar view.

    If you don't have the original workout files then I don't know. You used to be able to export TCX files from Garmin Connect (painstakingly one-by-one) but I don't know if the "Modern" version still supports that. Also it would export all files as a TCX so it the file was originally a FIT file you would only be able to export that which the TCX format supports (for example you would lose temperature information, etc).

  • you should be able to upload everything by using https://tapiriik.com/
    careful though, if you ad strava to the mix, it will RE upload a 2nd copy to strava...
  • Question 1 - I have a 'free' Trng Peaks account that I use each winter for a free Spinervals program. Can TP load two separate training programs simultaneously?
    Question 2 - Does TP automatically score TSS for swimming and running like a Garmin does for biking?
    Question 3 - I don't use a Garmin for my indoor cycling. Instead, I use the old big yellow Joule and once in a blue moon download one or two work-outs to Power Agent for review, and delete the majority of the activities. Do we need to download our Garmin & Joule into TP?
    Question 4 - Does TP calculate and graph CTL? If it does, so what?

  • Posted By Scott Dinhofer on 03 Nov 2015 03:29 PM


    you should be able to upload everything by using https://tapiriik.com/

    careful though, if you ad strava to the mix, it will RE upload a 2nd copy to strava...

    +1 on tapiriik.

    There is an easy fix to Scott's issue.  When you configure don't have Strave send to the other sites.  I usually have GC send to TP and Strava and have TR send to GC (which then sends to TP and Strava).  Pay the $2 and have this all happen automatically.

  • Thanks Scott and Jeremy. I'll check out tapiriik tonight. My setup is already as Jeremy described so hopefully I should have no issues with double uploads.
  • @Paul, good questions all. Let me try to start, others pile on:

    1) Not sure what the other workout will be. I don't believe EN has preloaded workouts. Personally I cut/paste the workouts in the text block on the calendar. I'll get a couple of weeks ahead so I can see the plan and expected times, etc. Manual but it works for me.

    2) TP will score TSS for run. I've not done swim but I believe it will also. To do so you must go to settings/zone and set the respective "threshold" values for bike, run, (and swim). Make sure to remember to update these after a test. Setting your zones there too is handy.

    3) Maybe I'm confused, but if you don't load the data then how will TP know what you have done? With a relatively current Garmin its very easy since you can link TP to Garmin Connect and automatically upload. As others have pointed out there are other solutions (I've had mixed results with tapiriik, but maybe that's just me).

    4) TP does graph/track CTL and a host of other values. I'm not qualified to answer the second part to your question as I have not studied these values. I'm sure there will be healthy debate here over the coming months.


  • Yes it estimates swim TSS. Not sure if their methodology is updated to leverage the new Garmin HR strap that can report HR data for swimming.
  • Oh, one other thing...your swim zones need to be set to get swim TSS if using swim data

  • Posted By Jeremy Behler on 03 Nov 2015 05:01 PM

    Posted By Scott Dinhofer on 03 Nov 2015 03:29 PM


    you should be able to upload everything by using https://tapiriik.com/

    careful though, if you ad strava to the mix, it will RE upload a 2nd copy to strava...

    +1 on tapiriik.

    There is an easy fix to Scott's issue.  When you configure don't have Strave send to the other sites.  I usually have GC send to TP and Strava and have TR send to GC (which then sends to TP and Strava).  Pay the $2 and have this all happen automatically.

    I used to be a big fan of Tapiriik, but I'm not sure it is necessary now that Garmin Connect, and several other sites, will sync with each other.  I stopped using Tapiriik about a year ago.  Now, I upload all of my Garmin device data to Garmin Connect, and Garmin Connect automatically sends it to both Trainingpeaks and Strava, so everything ends up everywhere.  The only manual stuff I had to do was upload my TrainerRoad workouts to Garmin Connect, but I think TrainerRoad has since added the auto-upload functionality to its site, although I have not used TrainerRoad since it has been added.

  • TrainerRoad now has autoupload to Strava and TP, just did that a few minutes back. Did not see an option for auto upload to GC.
  • I've used my HR strap with Garmin and TP for swimming - no, it doesn't change the methodology for TSS (still uses sTSS, not hrTSS). All TP did with the data was note an average HR and max HR; it didn't even plot the HR data.

    +1 on Tapiriik; as long as you're careful with the settings to ensure that the correct sites update each other, it works well. Now, however, I just have Garmin auto-sync to TP and Strava, a la John above. I just use my Garmin with TrainerRoad (using the ANT+ broadcast feature from my computer) to get the TR data to Garmin (then to the others).
  • +1 on Tapiirik for importing three years of data from Strava to TP. You don't need it to run daily, but you do need it to port all your old stuff over!
  • Thanks All, tapiriik worked perfectly. started it syncing when I went to bed last night with only Garmin and TP. Voila! woke this morning with two years of matched data. Awesome! Going forward will just have Garmin update TP/Strava business as usual...
  • some good pointers in here from Jeremy on routing all through Garmin. I need to do that with TR and stop using my garmin while I am doing TR!

    Separate, but realted item, when you bounce back and forth between trainer rides & outdoor rides, how/ where do you adjust your FTP for your indoor/ outdoor FTP?
    thanks all!
  • +1 on tapiriik.

    There is an easy fix to Scott's issue.  When you configure don't have Strave send to the other sites.  I usually have GC send to TP and Strava and have TR send to GC (which then sends to TP and Strava).  Pay the $2 and have this all happen automatically.

    Jeremy:

    Can you map how you have this flowing? 

    for example, do you have GC sending to TP & Strava via Tapirik?

    I have Strava picking up rides from GC. I have Strava connected to FB, Instagram & MyFitnessPal

    I have TP picking up from garmin via Tapirik.

    I still need to get TR exporting to GC to feed the others? do this via tapirik? or just have TR export to Strava & TP directly?

    the next dumb question is, with Dropbox being an option, shouldn't we all be dropping everything in there so we have the raw files for future usage/ upload to a new program? 


  • Posted By Scott Dinhofer on 04 Nov 2015 12:51 PM

    Jeremy:

    Can you map how you have this flowing? 

    for example, do you have GC sending to TP & Strava via Tapirik?

    I have Strava picking up rides from GC. I have Strava connected to FB, Instagram & MyFitnessPal

    I have TP picking up from garmin via Tapirik.

    I still need to get TR exporting to GC to feed the others? do this via tapirik? or just have TR export to Strava & TP directly?

    the next dumb question is, with Dropbox being an option, shouldn't we all be dropping everything in there so we have the raw files for future usage/ upload to a new program? 

    Here is what I have.

    As far as raw files...I have WKO download everything from TP online so have the raw files on my hard drive.

  • @Jeremy:
    thanks
    but I think the last part may be an error, WKO converts the files to its own format and they are no longer "raw" (I think)
  • Then I must not have any raw data anymore image
  • Here is a good link I just found for unlocking your WKO data.. http://sourceforge.net/projects/wko2csv/
  • i realize there is a huge "help" forum (http://help.trainingpeaks.com)
    are there any good "how to" videos/ pages that experienced users find helpful, it's a bit underwhelming in discovering how to use it effectively.
  • Is there a way to load your whole OS plan into training peaks and then just use the app to review your weekly workouts? Or is there a way to print a week of workouts at a time versus the mobile version that only lets me see 2-3 days at a time?
  • This is a great thread! I am new to training peaks and will be getting started this month. I will take the above suggestions into mind.

    Does anyone have an opinion on WKO4? It's $180 (less discount) to buy....is that what everyone recommends?
  • I'm a trainingpeaks newbie and would appreciate any help possible...
  • Question, maybe it has been answered and I don't see it...

    ...is it really worth it to upgrade to training peaks premium?  I have both basic strava (can't adapt the distance on there, but whatever) and basic training peaks, which I seem to look at more than strava, can only do 2 day planing though...thoughts?
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