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@coach Patrick: With me doing the testing this upcoming week, how would you want me to proceed for the remainder of this upcoming week? Week 3 workouts, or week 2?

On the run test it is asking for a "spin out": what exactly is that in relation to running?

Also, am I ok to continue with some of my weight training?

Thanks
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  • Also, here are my bike stats:
    MAX HR: 185
    AVR HR: 176
    RPM: average between 98-103
    Not sure if this is needed, but I have a resting HR of 71

    How do you/I get my Zones from this?

    Thank you
  • Karin, under the Training / My Training Zones (http://bit.ly/1SL55rW). If you haven't already, you might want to check out New Member Welcome as it covers a lot of these smaller things (http://bit.ly/1SL573b).

    Please keep me posted!
  • I did read all that at the beginning, with a whole bunch of other stuff. After my work days, it's hard to remember other things, so thanks for the link.
  • @coach P: What training week do I follow for the rest of this week and where do I start off next week?
    Can I continue some of my weight training on Monday, Wednesday & Friday?
    Thank you
  • Karin, thanks for texting me, sorry I didn't reply sooner!!!! image Where does the time go?
  • @ coach P. Woke somewhat sick. Im pretty well on track in my 3rd week, but had to skip Thursday and Friday now due to work trip and long hours. Now I'm on the verge of a cold. I can do the bike training from home, but have to skip the run, since I am currently not a all seasons outside runner. If I feel up to it, I will get to the gym tomorrow for the scheduled run. Am I doing this right? I'm horrible when it comes to making healthy decisions, hence my constant injuries in the past ?? Can I please have your input? Thank you
  • Karin, you need sleep / rest. Like 8 hours...get that this weekend, per night. Stay hydrated. Spin only...F the run right now as it's miserable out anyway, even to GET to the gym. I'll take some consistent aerobic time until you feel better. If you are out and about with your shopping, you can check out the Getting Sick guidance in the wiki here: http://bit.ly/1msOnRk Please keep me posted!
  • @coach P: there is a half marathon on May 7. I never ran that kind of distance. What's your thought on this, considering my first race June 8th? Does it interrupt my training too much due to recovery time? Can you adjust my training for this?
    Thank you
  • Karin, what's the story with the half? Given you have a short course season on tap, you don't really _need_ to run a half this early in the year. That said, the OS will "technically" have you ready to run the distance (assuming you remain healthy, etc).

    If it's for fun, no pressure we could get you there by carrying the long run across swim camp into the beginning of your Short Course plan.

    That said, it's all about consistency. Every week of downtime you have, the harder the (eventual) races will be as you'll have less and less time to ramp up.

    So let me know re the half and tell me what's up with your "cold" -- better yet?
  • Yes, it would be just for fun with friends, but I dropped that idea already.
    My cold is better. Been back in full training mode since Thursday. I could feel the set back though this weekend. I usually do the full 60 minutes on the bike, and two MS, but my body wasn't playing along. I did one MS instead, and biked for 45. Paid off on the run off the bike though, since I felt pretty good then.
    I'm having a really hard time on Saturdays though. I end up spending most of the day on the couch, because I'm so very tired. It's like I'm bonking out for a full 24 hrs after my session. Sunday isn't too bad, but still tired. I get a lot of sleep on a regular basis, so that's not it. Ant tips?
    I was also wondering about the note of the training plan; it says to plan to run a 10k at the end. Is that legit? I haven't looked at any races so far.
    Thank You
  • Karin, thanks for the update. Can you take friday off 100% to prep into the weekend? That might allow you to absorb the week before the weekend...what say you?

    As for Saturday, what are you eating? I find a lot of folks don't eat / drink well to handle the workload...so let me know on that.

    For the end of the OS, yes, a 5k is ok but a 10k or 13.1 is better....no pressure, whatever you can manage!
  • I took Friday off to test that, but same result.
    I usually eat some oatmeal early, then a protein shake before the workout. Sometimes it's eggs, then PB sandwich and banana. Depends at what time I train. Per the webcast I listened to, nut butters and oatmeal isn't a great choice in race day, but not sure about training days. My thought is that my nutrition is wrong. Feels like my drop sugar drops. I tried some Gatorade last time, which helps a bit, but I still was exhausted all day. Thoughts?
  • Karin, let's keep the friday off for now. No rush to put more on you, and you might need a bit more time to see a delta.

    I am not a nutritionist but a protein shake before a workout is no bueno. Basically your workout is the time to eat all the flashy, simply super-sweet carbs to fuel you through the session...protein shake AFTERWARDS is great. So the oatmeal is probably ok, but 15' before if you are hungry have a gel...then dial in Gatorade and gels / chomps / bars like it's a real outdoor session. I eat a gel every 30' even when indoors...starting on the 15 minute mark. That might help give you muscles what you need to workout ,and the protein to recover.

    More information on this in the wiki portion of the wiki here: http://bit.ly/1Pmjh5W
  • Hm. Actually it's not a protein shake, it's a meal replacement shake from Advocare. My bad. Yes, I don't use protein shakes before a workout, not even when I just lifted.
  • Got it...let's move that earlier then if it's "Required"...let me know how that goes!
  • @Coach P: I found time this morning to look at a bunch of wiki stuff, and have questions:

    1) can you please dumb it down for me what the "riding steady" means when it comes to hills? (and btw: I don't have a PM)

    2) the run warm-up is only if I do not run right off the bike, correct? 

    3) what is your suggestion on spacing my races out? one a month? I have a list of races, Oly and Sprint, that I've been looking at. Maybe throw in a duathlon. I'm planning on moving this summer, so I don't want to spend an extreme amount of money on race entries. (not sure why they are so much more expensive in New England then in the Midwest?! - do you pay by hill? ha)

    Two more questions in here:

    My body is very tired this week. Sore from a 3000' steep hike on Sunday that I did instead of my run, I took Monday off to recover, but my legs feel like all week has been a continuous add-on of work. My run (almost) off the bike went surprisingly well yesterday, but my knees, especially in the back of leg, where really achy after. It almost feels like if you overextended your leg; any idea what causes that?

    Will do my best to get the run in as per plan. Is there a "good time" for somebody who usually doesn't run outside in the colder weather, to start doing so? Do I have to worry that it will lead to me getting sick, due to my body not being used to sweating in the cold?

    I've been very bad on doing the Monday/Friday workouts, since I use those days for upper body lifting. My core will have to get a crash course, starting today.

    Thank you

  • Karin, thanks for checking in..let’s do this!

    1. Yes to hills…you can read this article here, specifically the bottom section of “Summarizing an EN Hill Climb” http://bit.ly/1RgSjgT

    2. The run warm up is for solo runs, and for when you have time…some folks just don’t …so I leave that choice up to you. When you come off the bike you are already good to go!

    3. I hear you on the race $$ crazy here! It’s ok to bundle shorter races as they can be stacked on a few consecutive weeks…IOW, a sprint on week 1 then an oly in week 2, that would work. You have to have FUN after all. What doesn’t work is too many races leading up to a half…or in the final 4 weeks to your biggest race of the year.

    4. The hiking “fatigue” isn’t abnormal…it’s a different stress and you’re feeling it (hiking ain’t easy!). Sounds to me like your hamstrings are tight and pulling on the attachment point down there. I’d roll and stretch them gently.

    5. No such thing as a good time…it’s not the cold (for me) but the wet…if it’s cold and wet then your chances of getting sick go way up. If it’s dry and cold, you can just bundle up..I think you should be outside for most of your runs by now!

    Please keep me posted how things continue!

    ~ Coach P
  • I haven't been running outside much. Mainly because I've been training at night, and do all my runs right off the bike. Too many pot holes to run at night. My bike comp is acting up too, so I've been biking a lot at the gym to track miles. Not sure why my sensor works one minute, then loses contact again. It's frustrating. Taking my bike to the shop this weekend.
  • I am hopeful the bike computer is behaving itself right now...let me know...
  • Just dropped my bike off at the shop. Need new cables and a tune up. Replacing the comp with a wireless one that works with my Garmin 920.
  • SWEET! We'll need to see some pics when it's all cleaned up!
  • Bike tuned, comp working, now I just have to find the P*balls to go out on the road... same with running...the ear ache (from wind) from the few runs outside, had me hit the treadmill right away again. Ugh. I know; BAD. I'm allowing myself to finish up the Outseason training like that, but then I'll adjust my habits. There is only one race in the area this weekend, and I have friends visiting for the marathon this weekend, so if needed, I can do a 10k the following weekend. Thoughts?
    Couple questions: 1) I'm looking for this: EN rules for "flattening the course" that a teammate referred me to. Where is it located? Can't find it. 2) I'm really worried about my swim form. I can get the few yards in no problem right now, but the little bit of form I have, falls apart half way through the building sets. Any suggestions on drills to build up balance and form? I'm also a horrible kicker. An old swim coach told me ones to just not kick and save the leg energy for the bike, since my kick just slowed me down hahahaha
  • OMG so mad my post blew up and was lost...boooooo.



    First, Google is a searcher's best friend...here is the link you want: http://bit.ly/1To7lX3 The idea here is NOT to spike effort up the hills, but to pick an effort you can ride both sides of the hill...as it will yield phenomenal speed on the downhill and into the flats.

    Second, you don't have a kicking problem; you have a balance problem!

    My fav drill is kicking on my side with fins to find my balance, like this one: http://www.breakwatersportstraining.com/mastery/side_balance_drills.html 

    Side kick can vary between chin up (breathing) and chin down (kicking). Most swimmers will find it helpful to roll slightly onto their backs when breathing. Resist the urge to lift the head. Only nose and mouth should be out of the water when breathing. When kicking on side, low arm is extended, high arm should be clear of the water from shoulder to wrist. Spine is straight, you will need to "press the buoy" on your side to lift your hips. Ideally you want the front hand/arm/shoulder to be relaxed. The back (top) hand will be resting on your hip and should be out of the water if your balance is good. 

     

    ...let's get this solved and then move on!

  • My 14 week Outseason plan is done. What do I do next?
    I have visitors for the marathon, so I won't be doing much this weekend, other then maybe a swim.
    My bike test failed half way through, but nothing that my Chiro couldn't fix. Since my first test wasn't completed right (I thought hard meant big gear, back then), and I was sick the week if the halfway through test, this one wouldn't have told me much. I can redo; whatever you want me to do. Starting Tuesday, I can get back into the game with whatever new plan you have for me.
  • Please take into account that my first race is Quassy and is less then 7 weeks away (me in panic mode hahaha). My plan was always a week behind the others, so it just ended, which makes the dates not line up for the swim camp (per road map). It only gives me 1 week of swim drills. So far I've been integrating the sets posted within the 14 week OS, and I need to get pool time in for sure. Not sure however, how to fit it, if I am to be on the new shortcourse plan already next week. Can you please let me know what to do?

    I tried to get on your chat for tonight, but other then showing that I'm connected, it didn't do anything... guess I'll watch it tomorrow :-)

    Did you run Boston, or were you spectating (like me)?

     

  • Karin, your Triathlon Season RoadMap™ has everything you need to know about your year. I am putting an image here, but the link to view it (and a Coach Video) is here

    I know you are "off" your plan but it's pretty close. This week you are Short Course plan...I don't think you NEED to test as much as you NEED to get on your plan so you can get back on track into Quassy. Esp with the consistent swims.

    So load up that plan and check it out to let me know what you think. Priority is all riding and swimming, runs are just for frequency through May until we get you bike/swim mojo back...then we can be more balanced about selecting workouts. Make sense?

    Ps I was spectating as I am in run jail. What a great day (to watch)! 

  • It says to do swim camp this week, THEN load the short course. Am I just super confused? Too much sun perhaps from watching Biston Marathon?
  • Okay, so I started the short course today and will integrate the swim drills on the mornings that I technically wouldn't swim. I need the miles, so it'll be okay.
    Sorry for all the questions.
  • Karin -- More questions = Mo Better. Bring it!
  • I had to skip my swim on Friday and today, due to a stiff neck that didn't get better. I had it cracked after the pool today, so for the third time I will try and swim tomorrow. I was volunteering at the farm this Saturday, and worked hard, therefore didn't get my run in. I did get a good bike, followed by a short run in, on Sunday. I am a lot stronger on the bike then I thought. Not great, but better then I thought.
    Now, I was wondering a few things:
    1) how do you do strides on a run outside? I've been doing them on a treadmill so far.
    2) am I to do the week bike workouts inside or out? If outside, it is touch to do the 5-7 1min drills.

    I connected with a few bike people and have the following options, starting May:
    Mon/Fri morning Muffin ride: this is for "newbies" at 12-15mph speed, only one hill though :-(. I rode with a club member on Sunday, and he thought I should ride a few time with the Muffin ride, and then move to the B52/54 ride, which is faster, with more hills (meeting Tue/Thur morning)
    There is also a Tuesday night ride that is a no-drop.
    Saturday is a 40 mile bike ride I could do, or maybe meet up with a random group.

    Looking at the training plan (beginner short course, week 7), what are your thoughts on me taking part on some of those?

    I need to learn how to fuel better though. After the last minute 25 mile ride on Sunday, I didn't have anything with me to fuel, and couldn't do the full 30 min run. I did a fast mile out (8:38 yeah happy dance), then slower back. My body was getting to the chill stage, so I thought it was best to not push any further.

    It's getting important to find ppl to work out with for the long stuff on the weekend, or I will lose motivation.
    At some point, I wonder if you could tell me some tricks on not losing motivation on the run, when you are getting tired, or bored. On one of the race report podcasts, I heard that a guy found a song that went with his "run beat", and he sang it to himself at the IM. The guy from Brazil :-) I need something to keep out of my head. Always been a big problem on the run.
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