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Brian, great to talk last week...I really enjoyed catching up with you and look forward to the challenge of helping you be your best this season despite your schedule!

You biggest step forward will be locking in some type of decent swim form while we get consistent on the run. The bike is easily built on the weekends (when home) but you can definitely get in regular runs on the road...as you travel, post those travel dates here (as well as what plan you are on) and I can help you adjust 

In the meantime, please check out our swim resource page here.  You'll want that top resource (open with Adobe to see the videos) and we can go from there.

Talk soon!

~ Coach P

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  • Hi Patrick, can you send me the rates again for the coaching, I received the email, but I must have deleted it, there was some kind of discount but I do not remember what it was.  Thanks. Brian
  • Brian, I'll find that email and send it along, or send a new one to you shortly!!!

    ~ Coach P
  • Hey Coach,

    Based on our chat a while back about heart rate zones, I wanted to check back with you on a topic.  I was given the opportunity to do a free, yes I said free, VO2 max treadmill test at a local gym.  I know I did the test about two weeks back and put my numbers into the EN system, but since the test is free I wanted to do that as well, just to see what comes from it to see if my zones that I calculated in my test were close.  Thoughts?  Let me know.  

    Thanks.
    Brian

  • @Brian Smith

    Why not! Be sure to find out the protocols...those tests are usually very variable..what you eat, how rested you are, etc, can all affect your O2 and therefore the readings. 

    Let me know if you need help adjusting the training week to make it happen, and please share the experience!

    ~ Coach P
  • Question, maybe a dumb one, but who do I contact to adjust my plans?  You or coach Rich?  Just so I know what resource to work directly with on it.

    Also, was able to run outside today for the first time, 65 degrees here, but I tweeted my right knee a bit, thinking I am going to move Sunday's work out to Monday and take Monday's day off for tomorrow...
  • @Brian Smith - it's me for the day-to-day stuff! I am just on vacation right now, so sorry for not answering quickly!

    Your minor adjustment is fine...how does the knee feel now that it's Tuesday?

    ~ Coach P
  • Oh sorry to bother you on your vacation...I did a ride on the trainer last night and it was ok, but pressure on the right knee when walking and going up an down stairs is not good, shooting pain.  I was told not to run on it for the next two weeks and then they will evaluate it if I need to get an MRI, they said lets just hope it is a small pull.  I have an appointment with my general doc on March 1st again to take a look at it.

    Odd thing is that this is my "good" knee, no surgeries on this one like the two on the other knee...
  • @Brian Smith - No worries..I love my job, so not hard to take a few minutes!  :sweat::smile:

    So, I think you need to check out the OutSeason® Run Jail page. That will outline how you should approach adding a fourth bike and turning off the run. 

    But FIRST I suggest you turn things off through the weekend....you can swim, or lift upper body, but otherwise ICE and if you agree, some NSAIDs to reduce inflammation. 

    ~ Coach P
  • Thanks Coach Patrick, I appreciate you taking the time form your holidays...I will try and turn it off for the next days and go from there...will keep you posted up through the weekend....cheers.

  • Could be better...tried a short swim on Friday, actually had some pain in the knee afterwards, took the rest of the time free, I scheduled a call for you tomorrow to go over things and how to adjust my trainmen without running for the time being, as the impact is still sharp, just not as bad as before.
  • @brian smith

    Good call today. So as I look at your plan, you are in the OutSeason®. In case you missed it, I sent you the OutSeason® Run Jail page a little while back. What it does, basically, is add a Sunday ride, so your key workouts are: 
    • Tuesday FTP ride
    • Thursday VO2 ride
    • Saturday FTP ride
    • Sunday Steady ride
    The schedule is on that page via the link ^above^. 

    The other days are swim or core. If you swim, use a pull buoy to alleviate pressure on your knee. 

    But for now, good luck tomorrow and text me what your primary thinks!!!  617-513-3830

    ~ Coach P
  • Thanks Patrick. Quick question, for the  rides should I use week 4 or week 5 at this point for the FTP VO2 rides and times?  As I missed a week.  Please advise.  Thanks again and I will test you later.
  • Hi Patrick, results are in and there is no MCL tear, but there is a small pice of loose tissue (likely tore off some where) that is caught between the joints, so he said to take the script for the next three weeks and no running or impact training.  He said I can do non-impact training as long as I do not feel any pain doing it, i.e. bike and swim.  I am to revisit this with him in three weeks and check on the status...  so better news than I expected!  Shall I follow the daily plan you have above and if so what week should I follow at this point in my out of season trainmen plan?  Please advise.  Thanks. Brian

  • Well I rode for about and hour indoors last night at an easy pace, you can see it on TP if you care to...knee hurts a bit today, will monitor it for the next few days regarding effort.   
  • @Brian Smith - Hey, thanks for the update. An hour is beefy...and it might take 24 to 48 hours for the pain meds to lock in. I suggest focusing on 30 minutes of aerobic work a day through Sunday...then Monday back up to like 45'. 
    • 3 days of 30'
    • 3 days of 45'
    • Ideally back up to an Hour.
    I am curious to hear what the swim feels like, but don't want you to push the bike until the pain is gone. So all that work in bullets is different than your plan, as it's just "burning calories" time. Once you get through that, we can talk about being more intentional with your effort. Until then, we need to be safe!.

    Stay strong, you're making the right decisions!

    ~ Coach P
  • Hi Coach, So I have been taking the script form the doctor and they told me another 2 weeks of no running, but I have been riding and posted the results too TP for you to review.  What do you want me to do for rest day timelines? I did a "rest" day and went for a swim, did fairly ok and swam for about 45 minutes, but forgot to set the garmin for distance, I am assuming I was about 2,000 meters or more, was taking it slow and pacing.  Knee was ok in the water, but I did feel some weakness in it when walking after.  Over all the pain and swelling seem to be reducing with the help off the script the doc gave me...  Next steps for the bike and swim, as I cant run for a while?  Let me know...Brian
  • @Brian Smith - Staying active (but not too active) will be key! 

    I think rest days (not bike and swim) should be nice easy walks. Nothing more. Remember the rest days are when you consolidate and rebound. 

    Right now I can't get into TP.com with the original USER / PASS you gave me...can you email the updated one to me here?

    Thanks!

    ~ Coach P
  • So for work outs just do 3 days on one off for the next two weeks?  Should I do 45 min or more?  
  • @brian smith - Sorry, hard to keep track of all our messages...yes to building to one hour. And I say alternate as swim / bike, adding a walk when you like..taking a down day as needed. I would try:
    • Week 1:  D1 = Swim, D2 = Bike 60, D3 = Walk 20
    • Week 2: D1 = Swim, D2 = Bike 60 + Walk 15, D3 = Walk 30.
    Then check in!

    ~ Coach P
  • Can we add shoveling out of a March snow storm in there?  Say 45 minutes and then have to do it again later in the day, no brick shoveling...ha
  • Got the latest email today about the locations, will there be anyone from the EN team management at IM Louisville this year or no?  
  • @brian smith - I concur on the shoveling!!! Legit!!!   As for Louisville, likely not because it's the same weekend as World Champs. You'll have 10 to 20 teammates there and a fantastic time though!
  • Hey Coach P,

    I am about done with the regiment you set up above, and have the flu unfortunately at the moment so I did not get to exercise last night and likely will only walk today, still have the flu type symptoms.  Please let me know next steps.  I have about a week left, as per the doctor, before I have to check in with him on the knee.  Let me know if you want me to continue on the 3 day plan or adapt it.  Thanks. Brian

    PS:  Got in a zone on the swim as you can see on my TP, I just felt good and since it was no impact I just keep going until I got a cramp in my calf, now that wasn't fun!
  • @brian smith - when you aren't training, you are shopping. I see what's what!!  :smile:  Your secret is safe with me :sunglasses: I promise.

    Yes to 3 day plan as best you can..just getting time to stay loose matters. My only edit would be back away from pool if you are truly sick. 

    Fingers crossed for you DR visit!

    ~ Coach P
  • Wise guy...what can I say the doctors office was just down the street from one of my LBS, so of course I had to stop in... :-)

    I have to see him later next week so I will let you know what he says at that point...thanks again...
  • So, did you pull the trigger?
  • I have it on hold for me, they have 4 P-5 Six's, two 54cm and 2 56cm for $2,600 each...only issue is the build cost versus a complete bike a this point.  Would like to get your opinion since you ride a P-5 Six right?
  • @brian smith - great to talk today, and chat bikes...I think you'll really be happy once you get that bad boy locked in. The downside is NO MORE EXCUSES, but there you go. :wink:

    Good to hear you are recovering and that your DR says you can get back into the running...this is what I recommend as you wrap up the OS plan...

    1. Continue with your bikes (3 per week)...but it's ideally 4 unless you are finding more pool time. As I mentioned ^above^ the preferred template is Tu / Th / Sa / Su for the rides...(assuming life cooperates).

    2. The run build up should be pretty fixed for the first four weeks like I mentioned. By the end you are running an hour across that week.

    Weeks
       Mondays
       Total # Runs
       Workout Time
        Walk Warm Up
          Run/Walk
    Walk        Warm Down
    1
    4/3/17
    4
    30
    10
               5 x 1/1
       10
    2
    4/10/17
    4
    30
    10
             5 x 1.5/1
        7.5
    3
    4/17/17
    4
    30
    10
             5 x 2/1
       5
    4
    4/24/17
    4
    30
    10
           5 x 3/1
       0

    Let me know what you think!!!

    ~ Coach P
  • Thanks Coach P...

    So to confirm I am on the same page: (Days may change on when I do them based on schedule.)

    - 1 hour per day on the bike 3-4 times per week.
    - Swim if and when I can 1-2 times per week (may substitute a ride for a swim?)
    - Walk/Run Program: 1 time per week (or more?) you mention up to one hour per week by week 4, which would mean the workout time in the chart would change, unless I am reading it incorrectly.

    Let me know.  

    Thanks.
    Brian

    PS:  Once my accountant tells me the pain I will feel with taxes the bike will be next...  :-)
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