P90X, Core--Who Is Doing What?
Hi Ladies! Who is doing what? P90X, Total Insanity? Both? Weights and core at the gym? Should we start an OS type women's group for the those of us getting back in the weight room and know (ahem) they need to do core? How does one integrate into S,B,R--even with the minimal non-training we're now doing? I'm thinking weekly threads? Anyone game?
It's been 3-ish years since I hit the weights, and that has to change. But I need guidance to figger it all out. What I don't get is doing all that cardio with P90X AND some S,B,R? That works?
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Another good video is the Snow Angel Fitness. It's done by a local coach here, Training Studio Dale Benedict and incorporates some of the functional strength with some cardio. I did part of the 2nd tap last off season.
Linda- I need to check out "total Insanity", but I have P90x. If I were to do P90x, i would do the "LEAN" program. As I mentioned in the what it takes thread- TRX is also wonderful@ www.fitnessanywhere.com. they have DVDs to guide you. as far as cardio in P90x, I would not do those workouts
My plan now is to do some kind of weight training 2 days/week and Bikram yoga 2 days/week during OS. I need to do this. I found that I had less injury when i was doing resistance training compared to not. I will be occasionally using a trainer for some 1;1 time as well. Shawn pushes me beyond what I would do myself
I do want to try the 100 pushup challenge again, as well as the 200 sit up challenge. ( in 6th grade, i won president fitness challenge for # of sit ups in 1 minute. I beat all the boys in my class.
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That's the other thing niggling around in my brain. Couldn't remember where I saw it, or who posted it. Thanks, T! Blame it on IM brain--at the time. Will check it out.
X2 on Flexible warrior yoag/karen Dubs- when i can't go to yoga studio.
Linda- TRX is a GREAt core workout, only 1 piece of equipment you can take anywhere. Each movement requires core work. My gym also has Bodypump which is a good weight class.
I'll start the OS in Jan and then all of this will be scaled Waaaaaaaay back.
From triathlon, where you only move linearly (is that a word) to the p90x workouts where there is a LOT of lateral movements, more sore muscles that I could deal with. I was sore for a week, completely eliminating the possibility of me doing any tri-specific workout, least of all an OS-style workout.
Not saying that (trail running, soccer, etc) those workouts aren't good for you, but trying to do it all at once is VERY difficult.
Excuse me now, I'll leave the girl section. ;-)
Agreed. I meant to also say I wouldn't be doing the leg workouts just the back ones (aside from the fact that my legs are huge and muscular enough already that a friend of my brothers called me thunder thighs- it was supposed to be a compliment
). And I'm starting P90X before the OS, so I'm hoping that I'll be into it/used to it by the time I get into the OS fun!
Nemo-I'm starting the OS in Jan as well ( unless I get really bored with not being on a plan
) Did some core today stuff today. Also plan on the 100 pushup challenge this winter. Continue to take core/strenght classes at the gym and use P's and Leigh's core program at home. Though LP- P90X looks and sounds mighty interesting! don't really want to spend the $$ for it right now 
We are starting P90* Oct 1. Prolly will do that combined with OS plan, really focus on core and arms.
I nominate Kris to design/suggest a plan for us
Scott--good advice. I'm not starting OS until Jan, so I will goof around with weights et al until then, then likely just keep uo core work after that. NO WAY, can my legs handle tri training and weights. Arms either, for that matter.
OK, now I'm zeroing in on my questions. For those of you who know P90X, are you saying that the weight routines exist separately from the aerobic part? IOW, I could follow just a weight routine on the videos, and run/bike/swim instead of doing their aerobic workouts? Trying to understand how this works. It's unclear to me from the web site.
Linda- There are like 10 DVDs that come with it and 2 books. You can use resistance bands or weights. 1 dvd is arms, 1 is abs, back & legs, a yoga, kenpo x is like a kickbox/karate dealio, a plyometrics, shoulders etc. So yeah, you could do just the weight routine. and use S, B, R as cardio.I have to go dig out the dvd for more details though
P. Instructional DVD
1. Chest & Back
2. Plyometrics
3. Shoulders & Arms
4. Yoga X
5. Legs & Back
6. Kenpo X
7. X Stretch
8. Core Synergistics
9. Chest, Shoulders & Triceps
10. Back & Biceps
11. Cardio X
12. Ab Ripper X
Phase 1 – Weeks 1, 2, and 3
Day 1 – Chest and Back, plus Ab Ripper X
Day 2 – Plyometrics
Day 3 – Shoulders and Arms, Ab Ripper X
Day 4 – Yoga X
Day 5 – Legs and Back, Ab Ripper X
Day 6 – Kenpo X
Day 7 – Rest or X Stretch
Phase 1 – Week 4 Recovery
Day 1 – Yoga X
Day 2 – Core Synergistics
Day 3 – Kenpo X
Day 4 – X Stretch
Day 5 – Core Synergistics
Day 6 – Yoga X
Day 7 – Rest or X Stretch
Phase 2 – Weeks 5, 6, and 7
Day 1 – Chest, Shoulders and Triceps, Ab Ripper X
Day 2 – Plyometrics
Day 3 – Back and Biceps, Ab Ripper X
Day 4 – Yoga X
Day 5 – Legs and Back, Ab Ripper X
Day 6 – Kenpo X
Day 7 – Rest or X Stretch
Phase 2 – Week 8 Recovery
Day 1 – Yoga X
Day 2 – Core Synergistics
Day 3 – Kenpo X
Day 4 – X Stretch
Day 5 – Core Synergistics
Day 6 – Yoga X
Day 7 – Rest or X Stretch
Phase 3 – Weeks 9 and 11
Day 1 – Chest and Back, Ab Ripper X
Day 2 – Plyometrics
Day 3 – Shoulders and Arms, Ab Ripper X
Day 4 – Yoga X
Day 5 – Legs and Back, Ab Ripper X
Day 6 – Kenpo X
Day 7 Rest or X Stretch
Phase 3 – Weeks 10 and 12
Day 1 – Chest, Shoulders and Triceps, Ab Ripper X
Day 2- Plyometrics
Day 3 – Back and Biceps, Ab Ripper X
Day 4 – Yoga X
Day 5 – Legs and Back, Ab Ripper X
Day 6 – Kenpo X
Day 7 – Rest or X Stretch
Phase 3 – Week 13 Recovery
Day 1 – Yoga X
Day 2 – Core Synergistics
Day 3 – Kenpo X
Day 4 – X Stretch
Day 5 – Core Synergistics
Day 6 – Yoga X
Day 7 – Rest or X Stretch
I've got lots of functional routine stuff laying around. what were you looking for??
I think the "Core Queens" ( Kris, Leigh, Michelle) need to put something together for us
@Kathy, if Archie can rip the DVD's to my computer, I can loan you the dvd's. Let me know.
Literally, I really on did about 1/2 of the ab ripper and I can barely do one "real" push up, much less the 3 gabizillion they want you to do...but you know what Tony says!!!! Do your best and forget the rest!!!! I start OS in October....IMTX...I think I'll take Scott's advice as soon as that starts.....I'm also afraid of messing with my knees on some of the routines and only do the "light" version. A guy at work tore meniscus in both knees doing P90X......
@Gina, I thought you ordered it?
I'm just doing straight up core work in the gym along with the occassional yoga and/or pilates mat class. If any of your local gyms offer an MVe class, that stuff rocks too! I miss that from my old (favorite) gym. It is essentially the chair from Pilates but slightly modified. Ugh! My tummy aches just thinking about it!
Some of the gym core work that I do includes:
- good ol' planks - one arm, one arm with crunches, two arm, on fitball or not
- v-sits (lay on the ground pike upward, similar to pilates move) -- either with or without medicine ball
- supermans on bosu
- back extensions on weight machine
- crunches on bosu
- "windsheild wiper" with medicine ball
- as has been mentioned, bridges
- everyone's favorite leg raises with fitball between the ankles
Most of the other lifting that I'm doing also has a core component to it i.e. squats on bosu or some other squishy thing, or push-ups on bosu or fitball. It helps me to have a once or twice every couple of years touch point with a personal trainer who understands triathlete/runners' strength needs. That's where I've gotten most of my current stuff.
This is a good thread LP!
We could do a separate thread like the ones we do weekly for the OS and races. That way we can b%$ch and moan
I mean brag about how toned we are!
IMHO:
P90X- cardio workouts are the pits. Kickboxing is fun but too short. Plyo kills your legs. Yoga DVD is 90 minutes and gets harder the longer you go. Stretching DVD is really good. All the others are lifting weights or moving your body weight. Can get you really ripped if you also follow the nutrition plan.
So I would do any cardio you want and add the lifting DVDs, 1 per day. The lifting DVDs give time as nearly as hour. Once you are familiar with the moves, you can zip through the entire routine in 20-25 minutes and FF through all of the BS talking. The Ab Ripper is non stop work for 15 minutes- well worth it.
You can NOT do P90X leg DVDs and OS together.
GET INSANITY- from same company (beachbody.com) This is all cardio/ core/ plyo work. I have to back off a bit on some of the jumps due to my foot, but I finally saw my ab muscles after following this. The DVDs are 30-45 minutes, so I usually warmed up on the bike or run for 20-30 minutes, then did the DVD, skipping the DVD warm up mostly. Did the Abs DVD yesterday- 15 minutes and I was sore all day.
I did not try, but I do not think you could do this and OS.
I am starting OS in January as well (yeah!)
Super helpful! Especially about the timing. I'm borrowing them from a guy friend to test them out for a few weeks and he was like, "yeah, you totally work it for the whole hour" but he's one of those guys that thinks he needs every minute of the 2 hours he spends in the gym on a nightly basis
Ours arrived today!!
A little late on the boat for this thread, but my husband and I started last week. We are doing the lean to start, and I will skip out the cardio parts when the OS starts, but I want my husband to be totally into it by the time I start skipping parts.
He has already lost 6 lbs between the diet and the videos. Me, not so much.
I really like the ab ripper, shoulders and arms and the streching. All summer I was in a 2x weekly bootcamp at the park but it ended and will not restart until next summer, these workouts seem comparible.
@Michele: I agree that the cardio workouts are a drag, my legs are pooped I will be happy to duck out during the OS !