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Do people actually get changed in the changing tents?

Being a IM virgin, I don't understand what the changing tents are for.  All the other races I've done from sprint to HIM, none have ever had changing tents.  I thought that was why God made the trisuit and tri kits. 

Does anyone actually change in T1 and/or T2?  Swim suit to bibs, to run shorts?  Seems kind of silly really..... but then again, I'm a Noob. 

Bewildered.......

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  • It's a long race. A lot of people prefer to change to bike wear and then to dry run wear. You should know the answer from your race rehearsals if you'll want to change or not. Personally I can do a HIM in a trisuit but 56 miles is about all I can go on the bike with it. At 112 I might be chaffed so badly I couldn't run. Soooo, figure it out before and don't do/wear anything new on race day.
  • Transition is a different animal at the IM distance. You don't have a transition area like you do at the shorter distances. You don't leave your stuff next to your bike. You have gear bags with your stuff - a bike gear bag and a run gear bag. You take the bags into the tent and do whatever it is you're going to do. You basically have no choice but to go into the tent.

    I did IMFL last year and it was like 40 degrees when we started the swim so I put on some warm and dry clothes in T1. No way I wanted wet clothes on during the bike. I was cold enough and didn't have to make it worse. I then put on some cooler clothes in T2 for the run and had a long sleeve in my run special needs bag.

    For IMTX this year I put on the DeSoto Cool Wings in T1 for the cooling effect and so I didn't have to worry about sunscreen/sunburn issues on my arms and shoulders. I put on my EN tri top in T1 as well.

    I guess it all depends on the conditions. For IMLP, you could probably do without a full costume change since it shouldn't be too hot or too cold.
  • I have traditionally swum/biked in my bike shorts...then changed to my run shorts. This year it's all tri stuff as every second counts. But if you have the chance, just stop for a second in either T1 or T2....you'll be AMAZED at some of the stuff you'll see. Not that stuff, you perverts!!!
  • changing tents have chairs to sit on. T1 you grab your bike bag, sit in the chair, dump the bag, put the stuff on, put the swim stuff in and take off. T2, same thing, sit with the bike stuff, dump the run bag, put it on, fill the bag with the bike stuff and take off.

    Tents are out of the sun / rain too. Don't get too comfortable though! Fast, fast, fast.
  • Steve, I felt the same way going into IMCDA. I wasn't going to change into anything, but after two race rehearsals I found that I wanted a better bike short to ride in. The bike short I chose that gave me comfort on the bike would have been too bulky for the run. So I wore the bike shorts under my wetsuit but changed to a pair of running shorts in T2 for the run. People will change completely in T1 and then again in T2. It takes 10 seconds to slip off bike shorts and slip on run shorts and the comfort that you have for the long run is SO worth it. Plus it gives you a chance to re-apply body lube if needed. Unless you on the edge of qualifying for Kona the minute that you might extend transition means nothing when compared to increasing your comfort on a 12 hour day.

  • My first coach, way pre-EN, suggested to all of his athletes "you're a swimmer, then a cyclist, then a runner...dress that way". Which means he wanted us changing into discipline-specific clothing. So much extra time, especially when you don't have a change tent for non-IM events.

    Luckily for me, I didn't listen, and stuck with tri clothes for the entire event - whether it was a sprint or on IM. I still train and race that way, tri training means tri clothes 100% of the time.

    But in doing IM for the last five years, I've also seen all sorts of things in those change tents (and outside of them - just don't get caught or you'll be DQ'd there)!
  • Mostly it is about changing your shoes! As my old coach said to me: "no dawdling in the change tent!". You will see a bunch of crazy stuff in there if you hang out long enough - but you won't do that. While you are changing your shoes in T2, ask a volunteer to clean your glasses, ask someone to put more sunscreen on you, and then get the heck out of there. All I'm there for is getting my runners on and my bike jersey off (I run in my bra top). Clean glasses and more sunscreen and I am good to go. Well, as good as you can be after a 2.4 mile swim and a 112 mile bike ride!

    Have a great day out there!

    ---Ann.
  • Steve - goal for first IM is usually just to finish. After that, changing tent routine depends on your performance goals. I wear my tri suit start to finish. At T1 I just put on my shoes and helmet...hand the wetsuit/goggles to a volunteer to put in my bag...and start running for the bike. At Ariizona last year, there were available chairs outside the tent at T2 so I grabbed the first one got my stuff and ran through the tent to start the run. Like Tom said...fast, fast, fast...it's still a race.
  • Ditto to above. With the first one, and really any scenario unless you have some specific time goals in mind, you can take the time to change if you want. Everyone has their own preference. If you know who have a problem with chaffing or something like that, wear what is the most comfortable; its a long day.

    You will see everything and anything in the tent, stick to your own plan. Some people show up with these huge bags of stuff. For me, I'm the exact opposite. The only thing in the bag is my shoes, fresh socks, hat, and an extra bib if I need it. That being said, I will probably put a nutrition bottle in their next time after this last race.
  • Hi Bob,  How are those desoto cool wings? 

    thanks!

    Brian

  • I listend to Coach P last year at LP and swam in my bike shorts, worked great and definitely saved some time, I switched to tri shorts for the run.

    Calling it a "tent" is a bit of an understatement, this thing is BIG and has infrastructure. Particularly of note, there was a trough in the mens tent that can made for quick, relief during T1/T2.
  • Steve - thanks so much for posting this question! Getting ready for my first IM and I've been wondering the same thing. I've volunteered and spectated at 5 IMOOs so far, but never allowed in the Forbidden Changing Area. Information like this would make a nice wiki section "IM Virgin Info", along with Special Needs Bags image

    Swimming in bike shorts - I've heard this can lead to the diaper effect with water absorption. Sounds like it's not a problem for folks? At this point I'm planning to use my tri shorts throughout which seemed to work well in a HIM last year, though not sure if that HIM is really a good indicator for the full distance. I'm particularly worried about chafing on the run where I've had some problems this year.

    Some of the best advice here is what to ask/expect from volunteers. e.g. I never would have thought to ask them to repack my bag or clean the sunglasses. Any other tips for what is fair or unfair to ask volunteers?
  • Posted By brian Kelly on 05 Jul 2011 01:20 PM

    Hi Bob,  How are those desoto cool wings? 

    thanks!

    Brian



    The cooling effect is more noticeable on the bike because there's more wind. I poured water on the sleeves during the run and it felt good. I've been wearing the De Soto Skin Cooler long sleeve shirts for two seasons now for training rides and runs and it works well.  I use it for and foremost for sun protection.

  • Posted By Brian Remer on 06 Jul 2011 05:10 AM

    Steve - thanks so much for posting this question! Getting ready for my first IM and I've been wondering the same thing. I've volunteered and spectated at 5 IMOOs so far, but never allowed in the Forbidden Changing Area. Information like this would make a nice wiki section "IM Virgin Info", along with Special Needs Bags



    Swimming in bike shorts - I've heard this can lead to the diaper effect with water absorption. Sounds like it's not a problem for folks? At this point I'm planning to use my tri shorts throughout which seemed to work well in a HIM last year, though not sure if that HIM is really a good indicator for the full distance. I'm particularly worried about chafing on the run where I've had some problems this year.



    Some of the best advice here is what to ask/expect from volunteers. e.g. I never would have thought to ask them to repack my bag or clean the sunglasses. Any other tips for what is fair or unfair to ask volunteers?



    DeSoto's 400 mile bike shorts are meant to be swam in.  The pad is a buoyant float pad (so is the pad in their Riviera tri shorts).  It's the only pair of bike shorts I'd swim in.

  • Thanks to all for your comments and info.  I understand better now but likely will not change from what I have done at other events - which was to go with tri gear from start to end.

    On the possitive side:

    Tent for bad weather - enable any number of dress options for changing conditions if needed

    Chairs - simplify bike and run shoe changes instead of hobbling on 1 foot in a wet grassy field

    Pee trough - no need to look for a blue hut

    Helpfull volunteers - sunscreen applicators, bag stuffers (can't imagine putting dirty glasses in my T1/T2 bags but if I did.....)

    On the negative side:

    Unwanted peep shows (good thing Coach P is a much faster swimmer than me!)

    Open uninal at T2 on a really hot day.... yuck fuu stinky!

    It would be nice to wear bibs for the ride but I wouldnt want to try putting on a tri top mid race and I'm slow enough to not need the extra long transition times.  All my races before EN were in 1 piece trisuits.  This year both Mooseman races and both race rehearsals were in EN tri kits.  So far I have not had an issue with chaffing during running and see no reason to think I will on race day.

    My plan is to swim in my tri kit and wear it all day.  Use a chair to put on bike shoes without socks, or change into running shoes with socks.  Get a volunteer to stuff my wetsuit and another to sunscreen my back and shoulders as needed and absoulutly  NO DAWDLING!

  • @Steve, just to be clear, the sunglass cleaning is in T2 - I sweat all over mine during the bike and this way they get freshened up for the run! (I don't have 2 pairs of nice glasses to race in). Volunteers have also helped me put on my running shoes in T2 and tied them up for me. (Had a bit of an adductor cramping issue at the time!). Not sure the men will have this luxury of so much attention. Women are typically only about 25% of the field and I bet we have the same number of volunteers in our tent! (But we don't get the trough. :-) )

    And, right you are - NO DAWDLING! You'll be good!

    ---Ann.
  • Posted By Bob McCallum on 06 Jul 2011 06:45 AM
    Posted By Brian Remer on 06 Jul 2011 05:10 AM

    Steve - thanks so much for posting this question! Getting ready for my first IM and I've been wondering the same thing. I've volunteered and spectated at 5 IMOOs so far, but never allowed in the Forbidden Changing Area. Information like this would make a nice wiki section "IM Virgin Info", along with Special Needs Bags



    Swimming in bike shorts - I've heard this can lead to the diaper effect with water absorption. Sounds like it's not a problem for folks? At this point I'm planning to use my tri shorts throughout which seemed to work well in a HIM last year, though not sure if that HIM is really a good indicator for the full distance. I'm particularly worried about chafing on the run where I've had some problems this year.



    Some of the best advice here is what to ask/expect from volunteers. e.g. I never would have thought to ask them to repack my bag or clean the sunglasses. Any other tips for what is fair or unfair to ask volunteers?



    DeSoto's 400 mile bike shorts are meant to be swam in.  The pad is a buoyant float pad (so is the pad in their Riviera tri shorts).  It's the only pair of bike shorts I'd swim in.

    My Bike shorts did happen to be the DeSoto 400 mile model, I did not know about the buoyant pad when i made the decision to swim in them.

  • @ Steve  - First of all, best of luck at IMLP!

    Having raced at IMLP twice and volunteered in transition once, a couple of thoughts:

    1. Don't rely on the volunteers to help you with your bag (items in or out).  It's great if there are enough volunteers and you catch  the attention of one to help. That said, if you can catch the eye of a volunteer, they are incredibly polite and will be most helpful (I'd like to think I was anyway);

    2. If a volunteer is available, don't be afraid to tear into your bag and get what you need quickly.  They can help get the knot &/or replace the bag if you have to tear it open, i.e. don't waste time with the knots.  IM puts extra bags in transition to replace torn bags.  The volunteer may be able to stuff your bag if you leave it in a pile - just ask.  And really DO number everything you want back.

    3. Most volunteers in transition have no idea how to be helpful.  Lots of them are there to sign up for their first IM.  Some polite direction by you, a smile and a "thank you" will be well rewarded.  If you'd rather handle your own bag 100%, just let the volunteer know you're good.

    4. If you're wet and going to try to change into bike shorts/arm warmers (it can be cool &/or wet at IMLP), it's going to take time to get those items on.  Lykra doesn't glide on wet skin.  If you're doing well with one costume during a half IM, likely you'll be comfortable for the full distance.  But changing clothes is really a personal preference as others have noted.

    Again, best of luck at IMLP!  Hope to be there to cheer you on.

    Dominic

  • I'm coming a bit late to this thread, but there may be some more tips in the Wiki Transition entry

  • .....you do not change yourself in the tent....the Ironman tent changes you..... (sound of bamboo flute in the background)
  • @Greg...that's awesome!

  • @Greg - Oh my goodness, that cracked me up! Hilarious, but somehow profound. . . :-)
  • Thank you, thank you. I'll be here every Thursday night folks!
  • Has anyone considered/tried swimming in trisuit.....pulling on bike shorts over tri-shorts/suit for the ride...then just pulling the bike shorts off for the run?

    I was gonna try this in practice..........possible double comfort for the ride?...and easy on/off for the run.

  • Sounds like a great idea. I've done HIM's in a tri suit-not sure I could get through a IM bike in one. Might be something to tri!
  • For me a double pad would be too much crotch volume and cause more discomfort than just the trisuit/shorts. YMMV
  • Posted By Joseph Lombardi on 28 Jul 2011 08:03 AM

    Has anyone considered/tried swimming in trisuit.....pulling on bike shorts over tri-shorts/suit for the ride...then just pulling the bike shorts off for the run?

    I was gonna try this in practice..........possible double comfort for the ride?...and easy on/off for the run.

     

    That sounds like a recipe to ensure chafing!

     

  • FWIW, I'm actually more comfortable in tri short on my bike versus bike shorts. I think the extra padding gets inthe way of my sit bones interacting with my Cobb Saddle.
    I would never personally double up shorts...that's just me.
    Also, I just got some major sunburn on my back at LP even with lots of sunscreen applied throughout the day. If I had to do it all over again I would consider changing in and out of a bike jersey or something that would have covered up my back more. A few extra seconds wouldn't have really effected my MOPer time.
  • I have only 2 bike shorts with the full diaper left. When they are worn out, I'll never go back. Like Nate, I find that the small pad in tri-shorts is much more comfortable no matter how long the ride.
  • I did IMTX with my tri shorts under my bike shorts. Removed the bike shorts in T2. No issues.
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