Relationship between Nov forum and Nov group
Hi,
I'm wondering how people are using both (if they are). I typically only look in the forum, and had basically forgotten about the Groups area. But I just checked, and people are conversing over in the Group. If it were to be put to a vote, I would favor having all our eggs in one basket (the forums) so that I don't have to check multiple places, and also don't miss interesting conversations.
Ideas? Suggestions? Clarifications?
Mike
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Oh! I didn't know there was a difference. I've been on just the Nov OS forum figuring the group conversations were on there too.
Heading over to the Nov OS group right now...
Yep, one centralized place would be nice.
The group is accessible from the forum.
The discussions in the forums and the groups are identical. Two doors into the same room.
I just looked in the group for this thread, and it's not there. Hmmmm. I wonder if Groups postings are getting forwarded to the Forum, but maybe not vice-versa.
Mike
Ok, I'm starting to figure it out a bit. In the Groups view, there's a black bar with Summary Members Discussions. If you click on Discussions you see the forum.
But that then begs the question - how does something end up in the Summary? It's the Summary that doesn't have this thread's posting in it.
Mike
To test this, I'm typing this post while outside of the group - from the main menu, I picked Forum, then selected the OS Nov forum. So my guess is that this post will not show up in the Summary.
Mike
I want to stick a fork in my eye.
Linda, Please don't, that will make the small print so much harder to read
where am I supposed to be looking?????two places?? okay I have been going to November 09 outseason and seeing weekly threads about social, run and bike and I have been reading those and sometimes making comments, I will now go find this other place y'all are talking about!
I am back, and looked for this other location about NOv 0s talks, didn't find. okay y'all know how to ping me if you need me!! m
From the Coalition to Spare Linda's Eye(s) -
I will look into this with admin. We intended the groups to be a separate layer apart from the forum; trouble is they "run" on the same forum architecture, hence they are visible there. In my ideal world, forums are for general stuff (club house, med forum,e tc) but if you are in Nov OS and want to commisserate @ your plantar fasciitis, you post it there where really only Nov OS peeps will see it.
Feedback?
P
I personally like accessing the group from the forum. One click back and i'm in to the general section. Much faster and efficient. Very ENish.
My vote is to keep all things together. I WANT to see the posting of an October OS person struggling with plantar fascitis to when I dealing with it as well over here in the Nov OS group's forum. So maybe that wasn't the best example.
Maybe a better example would be our commiseration about week specific workouts. I would guess that others wouldn't be to interested in that.
But for me, I'd rather have to wade through some stuff that isn't really interesting to me than to have multiple places for me to look for the stuff that I know I'm interested in. Having things all in one (segmented into different forums) bucket works for me.
Mike
I'm with Mike. Keep it together.
tom
Okay, love the feedback from you hardcore guys. Sounds like your feedback is that Coach P can have his little "group" settings as long as they live inside the forums and there's only one way to find them, right? Please confirm.
Also, does this mean you'd be fine with deleting the summary pages for the groups?
This might also affect the updating of the dashboard, I'll have to check.
Please keep it coming...
P
Groups found through the forum only = yes.
I don't think there would be anything lost from deleting the summary pages. If that helps clear things up dashboard updating all the better.
With eyes still in tact,
LP
What Linda said. I too don't think it would be a big loss to get rid of the summary page.
Okay, here is what I am proposing, so please read and reply.
1. We move all LARGE GROUPS to forum page. That would be all OS groups for example as they have so many folks etc., and are essentially a forum.
2. We will keep all SMALL GROUPS in the groups page. That would be like Ironman St. George, or Placid, etc. As it' might be 50 peeps max and all conversatino in there will be relevant to that group (i.e. no one else on team is doing LP that year).
I think this will let us organize groups without flooding forum page with another 30-40 forum entries.
Please advise.
P
Personally, even though I don't participate in all the groups, I can still read the postings - for info, for humor, etc.
If I don't want to read a topic/thread any longer, I read all the other ones I want and "mark all as read" to eliminate the others from the remaining "not read" list.
tom
You can probably guess where I stand on this...
But Patrick, let me ask: what problem are you looking to the Groups to solve? I haven't heard anyone say "Gosh, I hate the forums and all their extraneous stuff. I wish it were all off somewhere that I could ignore." Maybe people are sending you those messages on the sly. But if there is a set of people who want to ignore stuff, then I would suggest that the ability to do that could be added to the platform. So rather than having to opt into groups, one could opt out of whole forums.
For me, I've grown attached to people. The groups we are in change over time. I'm in the Nov OS group with John Stark right now. In a couple months he'll move on to his season focus group - and I still want to see what he's up to! I don't want to have to join each of the specific groups that pop up so that I can keep tabs on my peeps!
Similarly, it might be tempting to do groups for really small, short lived things - like the Ice Cream challenge. But again, please don't! Some people didn't even know that challenge was going on because all the action was happening in a ghetto-ed group. Even if I'm not participating, I still want to see the goofy pictures and videos. And if I don't, I know how to skip those threads.
There's so much good that comes from keeping us all in the same bucket. Unless there's some compelling need to break into groups, let's not.
Mike
Mike