Good challenge. I've gotten away from Lose It, and it's showing to the tune of about 5 lbs… I won't be posting here, but I'm back to daily Lose It postings. Goal: To feel good on my b-day May 31 … or about -6 lbs!
LOL! I "get it" as I understand the importance ow w/kg etc. But only on a Triathlon/cyclists site (or fashion models') would men weighing in the 160's and with waistlines <36" call themselves "fat". Today I'm getting the calipers out as the bodyfat sensors on bathroom scale are way off (reads 24% when army tape version reads 18% and last pinch read 14-17% depending on who's formula) I track scale (convenient) army (easy) and 5 site pinch (average%# result) on graft 8 bathroom. Haven't done a pinch in a while as scale hasn't changed but I'm curious as the mirror suggests I've lost fat. Which is my Real goal ....165# w/<10% fat. I may never run < 40 min 10K like I consistently did in college cross country. ...@140-150lbs. ....so be it. Actually I think 175 would be ideal astheticly.....but I'm willing to drop some more for race weight advantage.
I'm sort of in a different category than most in this group. I qualify as an Athena though I wish I didn't. Are there any other Athena/Clydesdales here? I don't feel comfortable posting here.
I know with the determination, discipline, and support of this group you will all succeed! Best of luck to you all!
In regards to Rachel's suggestion, my two eating habit goals would be
1. Don't eat when stressed.
2. Don't eat while talking on the phone (this is a rather disgusting, weird habit I would like to lose because it leads to mindless calories consumption, plus who wants to hear me eat? LOL)
@leslie, I also flirt with the Athena line (I don't compete in Athena, but could) but I also wish I didn't hang out there. I have never weighed less than 152 at this height, and that was when I was 14. But I have to love what I've got because that's all I have. If I can improve it, then that's great. I used to be 230 pounds, so I have made improvements. We are here to support each other, right? I hope I can support others, so @Leslie if you want to do it, then gopher it!
Athena was a beast of Greek goddess anyway, I would be happy to be like her!
@Leslie There are a few Athena/Clydesdale folks here. And many more just under those numbers.
Honestly for those folks and those of us who "hover around that category" it kinda sounds like a "White Wine" AKA 1st world problem <"the brass on my new sailing yacht wont stay polished...waaah!> when a 5'10" guy is "struggling to get 5 more pounds off" his 155# 8% BF frame.... (no finger pointing just made up example!)But...
I would suggest that this is just the place to voice your concerns and issues/questions and successes. Many of us live vicariously through your trials and have "Been there". I was >200lbs for quite some time only a couple years ago. I'm still working on it at 185#.
Just post #s lost till you reach that happy place when you can post a I was 'X#" now I'm "Y#".
I'm also using Lose It and have to say I made better choices yesterday when we went out to eat-steamed veggies even though I LOVE baked sweet potato, but I knew I'd want butter, so no go. Plus no bread and no alcohol-save that for when I *need* it
I got to try this. The numbers aren't too bad, but the weight may be sitting in the wrong places. Plus, I'm really currious what will happen if I clean myself up.
Some good information for today - think about this!
We all know that nutrition and movement are keys to maintaining overall health and good body composition, however do not disregard sleep and stress management as critical components as well! This is not a calories in = calories out equation.
"Let's get it started, let's get it started in here....," as the song goes. I have been in the Clydesdale division for the last ~30+ years (a good cook at home & limited moderation on my part). Started October, 2012 @ 245 lbs. after taking a year off and got as low at 209 lbs. a year later for last race.
New plan: Starting a new RN position (Cardiovascular Lab) and hopefully less stress cortisol release = fat deposits in the long run. Use Lose It! via phone, newly diagnosed with mild sleep apnea/obstruction (CPAP in my future), hopefully will be able to start to run, and wife joining in privitely too on the home front. Still 6'3" with a tilt in the pelvis and some scoliosis...seeing a Chiro an ART PT too.
Starting wt: 225#, ABD circ. 43"across belly button, waist 37" which don't care about, but 36" would be OK.
Goal #1: 218#, belly circ. 41" or < by 03/31.
Goa l#2: 205#, belly circ. 38" or < by 05/16, Daughter's Wedding.
Goal #3: 195#, belly circ. 36" or < by 07/23, pre-IMCA and out of Clydesdale Division.
"Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse." Maybe I can achieve @ least 2 out of 3 by the time I'm done.
Jay, looks like you have a great plan for success! congrats, we all will make it!
After reading your "live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse" I had to laugh, my husbands mantra for years used to be "live hard , die young and leave a good looking corpse" . 8 years ago he was diagnosed with a rare bone marrow disease, Aplastic Anemia. the new is: "Life is short, eat dessert first"
looks like he will not be following the March challenge
So the #s I put in spreadsheet where from the 22nd actually.... Today I did the whole head to toe measurements and created a new tracking form. I used the all in one spot bodyfat calculator if you have a measuring tape (Army method) or skin fold pincher 6 methods to calculate. Easy to plug in #s and gives BF%, BF#lbs, Lean#lbs.h ttp://www.linear-software.com/online.html
Bathroom scale Today: 183.3# 23.3%BF
3/4/7 site methods= 16/15.9/14%; 11site:15%; Durham 4site:16.7%
Tape(Army): 19.2% Neck size went down...makes big difference!
All averaged 148-157# Lean 16%=153# lean wt.
I use the 3 site as it is similar to the average of all "Pinch" methods 14-~17% for tracking [also easy/quick]
Here we go!!! I have been tracking using My Fitness Pal app on my phone and it has been helping...down 6 lbs since December. I have usually been very quiet about my #'s but I decided I am all in on this journey!!
Current- 140.2 lbs (although I was 139 yesterday...anyone else go up and down 2 lbs consistently?? Any rhyme or reason?)
Goal April 1- 136
Goal June 1- 133
Goal July 27- 130
Not sure if I am setting realistic goals, but I sure hope they are! I loved Rachael's idea about posting habit goals. Here they are
#1- NO MORE NIGHT TIME SNACKING!!!
#2- No stress eating ( I am with ya Susan! That is the worst...I get stressed and head to eat)
Now, onto my question. I have decided that I am going to ingest approximately 1800 calories a day. When I worked with a nutrition years ago she had me on a 2000 calories diet and that was when I was working out much less and I dropped the weight, so I am hoping that 1800 calories a day will get me to my goal of 125 by the time Rev3Quassy comes around. I have decided to use a meal plan from the website link I posted yesterday.
Basically it breaks your day up into:
450 calorie breakfast
150 calorie snack
450 calorie lunch
150 calorie snack
450 calorie dinner
Each meal it suggests you choose one of a list of things that will help you get to the calorie points of choice. e.g.
Breakfast: 450 calories
This is one meal… Feel free to eat this in parts.
Choose ONE of the following:
• Toast (2 slices 100% whole wheat)
• 1 English muffin
• 1 cup bran cereal
• ½ cup Grape-Nuts
• 1 ½ cups Puffed cereal with 3 Tablespoons Wheat Germ
• 1 cup grits
• 1 cup cooked oatmeal
• 1 cup shredded wheat
And ONE of the following…
• 1 ½ cup nonfat or 1% milk
• 2/3 cup plain, fat-free yogurt and 1 ½ Tablespoons Wheat Germ
• ¾ cup nonfat or 1% cottage cheese
And ONE of the following…
• 1 boiled egg (up to 4 per week)
• 1 turkey sausage link
• 2 slices Canadian bacon
• 2 ¼ teaspoons peanut butter
And ONE of the following…
• 1 small banana
• ½ cup orange juice (with calcium)
• ¾ cup red or green grapes
• 1 ounce raisins
• 1 apple
• 1 orange
And…
• 8 ounces water
I really like that, better than counting calories and this is the way my dietiton had me doing when i worked with her. There are some changes since I last worked with her. I am gluten free and I no longer eat animal products.
Here is my question. Should I eliminate the snacks from the above plan if I want to stay with the eat before, during and after a workout?
So if I was to eat a small banana 1 hour before the bike = 100 calories and then some gatorade during the bike at 130 calories and then my recovery drink which comes in at 140. That totals 370 calories consumed
If TR is being honest I burn around 400+ calories on the bike. So I come out around even, so if I am thinking about this the correct way, then I should keep the snacks in????
The reason I ask is that after the first week of the GF plan, I realized that I was not eating enough and last week when I did the fueling before, during and after I felt sooooo good, but now the scale is saying that I have gained weight.
Please weigh in my body comp buddies. I look forward to hearing your input.
@Brenda- I would definitely keep fueling the workouts how you did when you felt great. Because honestly, even if you don't like what the scale says, isn't feeling great during a workout more important and going to have better results in races than if you are a couple pounds lighter but have had subpar workouts? Maybe play around with the snacks that are not close to workouts, not dropping them all together, but perhaps more protein oriented and not carb? Also, just curious, I know you were doing the Core diet program, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.
Leslie - I qualify as an Athena too and I posted even though I am heavier than most of the males here and I don't care. I'm working on this for me, not anyone else.
Leslie - I qualify as an Athena too and I posted even though I am heavier than most of the males here and I don't care. I'm working on this for me, not anyone else.
@ Brenda & I believe Laura mentioned about weight fluctuations. In R?T Brenda's comment.... when cutting back and doing these kinds of WKO's -especially VO2MAX intervals you will be using glycogen as a primary fuel. (ez formula 180-age= HR where fat/Glyco transitions to more Glyco) When glyco replaced there is increased cell water volume. This is INDEPENDENT of vascular volume and tissue dehydration effects which can cause significant weight shifts. ie Hard WKO w/o carbing during/after with 2 lbs lost- most by dehydration (sweat & raspatory) but also by the metabolizing of the stored glycogen. -Very little actual fat loss. When re-hydrating with water some of this is re-gained (intervascular and general tissue) but when you add carbs you can see a rebound of weight.
Also there is the effects of electrolytes. I swing from rings falling off to cant pull 'em off with several pound swing.
Remember you'd have to burn >3,000kCal to burn 1 lb of fat...it is unlikely to gain or loose even a 1/4 lb of fat on any day despite gorging or exercising.
Its like watching the stock market up-down and level periods despite "reason"....watch for trends and make small agistments as needed.
@Jay I think you'll be pleasantly surprised as your weigh comes off your improved sleep -not just likely no longer needing the CPAP but also with less belly sleep breathing becomes easier and with better sleep = better sleep time hormones= better recovery and fatloss etc. Very positive snowball effect. Good luck!
@ Yvette That "...and eat desert first" would be my wife -After having spent the last 10 years struggling with Cervical Cancer and its post 2X chemo/RAD+ multi surgery complications she sees life as "enjoy it while ya got it!" (cant say I disagree) However I took a different route after Iraq and a few "experiences" reminding me of how short ones time may be.....but not avoiding that which I am afraid of. Embracing my "inner Sockmonkey" (I was terrified of them as a child -now my mascot) Horribly afraid of open water swimming?-do a Ironman LOL!, Eat Sushi, go Scuba diving....etc. Don't know about leaving a good looking corpse...but at least I'll have tried/done a few things!
I ordered some Girl Scout cookies from a co-worker back in January. Of course they brought them into work yesterday! And I ate half a box before sharing with everyone else!
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Let's see how I do: 171# 34 1/4"
Today: 160 lbs, 33.5 inch waist, Vdot = 45.
Goal: 154 lbs, 32.5 inch waist, Vdot = 47.
Good challenge. I've gotten away from Lose It, and it's showing to the tune of about 5 lbs… I won't be posting here, but I'm back to daily Lose It postings. Goal: To feel good on my b-day May 31 … or about -6 lbs!
I'm sort of in a different category than most in this group. I qualify as an Athena though I wish I didn't. Are there any other Athena/Clydesdales here? I don't feel comfortable posting here.
I know with the determination, discipline, and support of this group you will all succeed! Best of luck to you all!
Start: 200 lbs, 34 in waist
Goal: 188 lbs, 33 in waist (by April 15th)
Goal 2: 180 lbs, 32 in waist (June 1)
In regards to Rachel's suggestion, my two eating habit goals would be
1. Don't eat when stressed.
2. Don't eat while talking on the phone (this is a rather disgusting, weird habit I would like to lose because it leads to mindless calories consumption, plus who wants to hear me eat? LOL)
@leslie, I also flirt with the Athena line (I don't compete in Athena, but could) but I also wish I didn't hang out there. I have never weighed less than 152 at this height, and that was when I was 14. But I have to love what I've got because that's all I have. If I can improve it, then that's great. I used to be 230 pounds, so I have made improvements. We are here to support each other, right? I hope I can support others, so @Leslie if you want to do it, then gopher it!
Athena was a beast of Greek goddess anyway, I would be happy to be like her!
@Leslie There are a few Athena/Clydesdale folks here. And many more just under those numbers.
Honestly for those folks and those of us who "hover around that category" it kinda sounds like a "White Wine" AKA 1st world problem <"the brass on my new sailing yacht wont stay polished...waaah!> when a 5'10" guy is "struggling to get 5 more pounds off" his 155# 8% BF frame.... (no finger pointing just made up example!)But...
I would suggest that this is just the place to voice your concerns and issues/questions and successes. Many of us live vicariously through your trials and have "Been there". I was >200lbs for quite some time only a couple years ago. I'm still working on it at 185#.
Just post #s lost till you reach that happy place when you can post a I was 'X#" now I'm "Y#".
I'm also using Lose It and have to say I made better choices yesterday when we went out to eat-steamed veggies even though I LOVE baked sweet potato, but I knew I'd want butter, so no go. Plus no bread and no alcohol-save that for when I *need* it
I need a jump start - I'm in!
Start: ~150 lbs, 33 waist
Goal: 140 lbs, 32 waist (by April 15th)
Goal 2: 135 lbs, 30 in waist (July 7)
We all know that nutrition and movement are keys to maintaining overall health and good body composition, however do not disregard sleep and stress management as critical components as well! This is not a calories in = calories out equation.
Check out this link for more information on why sleep is the #1 thing you can change now in order to improve your body. http://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/why-sleep-no-1-most-important-thing-better-body#030214
"Let's get it started, let's get it started in here....," as the song goes. I have been in the Clydesdale division for the last ~30+ years (a good cook at home & limited moderation on my part). Started October, 2012 @ 245 lbs. after taking a year off and got as low at 209 lbs. a year later for last race.
New plan: Starting a new RN position (Cardiovascular Lab) and hopefully less stress cortisol release = fat deposits in the long run. Use Lose It! via phone, newly diagnosed with mild sleep apnea/obstruction (CPAP in my future), hopefully will be able to start to run, and wife joining in privitely too on the home front. Still 6'3" with a tilt in the pelvis and some scoliosis...seeing a Chiro an ART PT too.
"Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse." Maybe I can achieve @ least 2 out of 3 by the time I'm done.
Jay, looks like you have a great plan for success! congrats, we all will make it!
After reading your "live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse" I had to laugh,
my husbands mantra for years used to be "live hard , die young and leave a good looking corpse" . 8 years ago he was diagnosed with a rare bone marrow disease, Aplastic Anemia. the new is:
"Life is short, eat dessert first" 
looks like he will not be following the March challenge
So the #s I put in spreadsheet where from the 22nd actually.... Today I did the whole head to toe measurements and created a new tracking form. I used the all in one spot bodyfat calculator if you have a measuring tape (Army method) or skin fold pincher 6 methods to calculate. Easy to plug in #s and gives BF%, BF#lbs, Lean#lbs.h ttp://www.linear-software.com/online.html
Bathroom scale Today: 183.3# 23.3%BF
3/4/7 site methods= 16/15.9/14%; 11site:15%; Durham 4site:16.7%
Tape(Army): 19.2% Neck size went down...makes big difference!
All averaged 148-157# Lean 16%=153# lean wt.
I use the 3 site as it is similar to the average of all "Pinch" methods 14-~17% for tracking [also easy/quick]
Soooo.... Goal <9%BF 165-170 lbs w/ 150(+)lean/<15#fat </p>
=(-)15-20lbsFATLOSS <5lbs lean loss</p>
Here we go!!! I have been tracking using My Fitness Pal app on my phone and it has been helping...down 6 lbs since December. I have usually been very quiet about my #'s but I decided I am all in on this journey!!
Current- 140.2 lbs (although I was 139 yesterday...anyone else go up and down 2 lbs consistently?? Any rhyme or reason?)
Goal April 1- 136
Goal June 1- 133
Goal July 27- 130
Not sure if I am setting realistic goals, but I sure hope they are! I loved Rachael's idea about posting habit goals. Here they are
#1- NO MORE NIGHT TIME SNACKING!!!
#2- No stress eating ( I am with ya Susan! That is the worst...I get stressed and head to eat)
1. Eat breakfast every day-I'm doing better, but still not as good as I want.
2. drink water before I eat a snack
Carla
In regards to Rach's suggestion, I am going to concentrate on the timing of my meals, which means...
1. eat one hour before my workout
2. take a recovery drink immediately after my workout
Timing Your Meals for Increased Performance
Get Over Old School Calorie Counting
Now, onto my question. I have decided that I am going to ingest approximately 1800 calories a day. When I worked with a nutrition years ago she had me on a 2000 calories diet and that was when I was working out much less and I dropped the weight, so I am hoping that 1800 calories a day will get me to my goal of 125 by the time Rev3Quassy comes around. I have decided to use a meal plan from the website link I posted yesterday.
Basically it breaks your day up into:
450 calorie breakfast
150 calorie snack
450 calorie lunch
150 calorie snack
450 calorie dinner
Each meal it suggests you choose one of a list of things that will help you get to the calorie points of choice. e.g.
Breakfast: 450 calories
This is one meal… Feel free to eat this in parts.
Choose ONE of the following:
• Toast (2 slices 100% whole wheat)
• 1 English muffin
• 1 cup bran cereal
• ½ cup Grape-Nuts
• 1 ½ cups Puffed cereal with 3 Tablespoons Wheat Germ
• 1 cup grits
• 1 cup cooked oatmeal
• 1 cup shredded wheat
And ONE of the following…
• 1 ½ cup nonfat or 1% milk
• 2/3 cup plain, fat-free yogurt and 1 ½ Tablespoons Wheat Germ
• ¾ cup nonfat or 1% cottage cheese
And ONE of the following…
• 1 boiled egg (up to 4 per week)
• 1 turkey sausage link
• 2 slices Canadian bacon
• 2 ¼ teaspoons peanut butter
And ONE of the following…
• 1 small banana
• ½ cup orange juice (with calcium)
• ¾ cup red or green grapes
• 1 ounce raisins
• 1 apple
• 1 orange
And…
• 8 ounces water
I really like that, better than counting calories and this is the way my dietiton had me doing when i worked with her. There are some changes since I last worked with her. I am gluten free and I no longer eat animal products.
Here is my question. Should I eliminate the snacks from the above plan if I want to stay with the eat before, during and after a workout?
So if I was to eat a small banana 1 hour before the bike = 100 calories and then some gatorade during the bike at 130 calories and then my recovery drink which comes in at 140. That totals 370 calories consumed
If TR is being honest I burn around 400+ calories on the bike. So I come out around even, so if I am thinking about this the correct way, then I should keep the snacks in????
The reason I ask is that after the first week of the GF plan, I realized that I was not eating enough and last week when I did the fueling before, during and after I felt sooooo good, but now the scale is saying that I have gained weight.
Please weigh in my body comp buddies. I look forward to hearing your input.
will post stats tomorrow!
@ Brenda & I believe Laura mentioned about weight fluctuations. In R?T Brenda's comment.... when cutting back and doing these kinds of WKO's -especially VO2MAX intervals you will be using glycogen as a primary fuel. (ez formula 180-age= HR where fat/Glyco transitions to more Glyco) When glyco replaced there is increased cell water volume. This is INDEPENDENT of vascular volume and tissue dehydration effects which can cause significant weight shifts. ie Hard WKO w/o carbing during/after with 2 lbs lost- most by dehydration (sweat & raspatory) but also by the metabolizing of the stored glycogen. -Very little actual fat loss. When re-hydrating with water some of this is re-gained (intervascular and general tissue) but when you add carbs you can see a rebound of weight.
Also there is the effects of electrolytes. I swing from rings falling off to cant pull 'em off with several pound swing.
Remember you'd have to burn >3,000kCal to burn 1 lb of fat...it is unlikely to gain or loose even a 1/4 lb of fat on any day despite gorging or exercising.
Its like watching the stock market up-down and level periods despite "reason"....watch for trends and make small agistments as needed.
@Jay I think you'll be pleasantly surprised as your weigh comes off your improved sleep -not just likely no longer needing the CPAP but also with less belly sleep breathing becomes easier and with better sleep = better sleep time hormones= better recovery and fatloss etc. Very positive snowball effect. Good luck!
@ Yvette That "...and eat desert first" would be my wife -After having spent the last 10 years struggling with Cervical Cancer and its post 2X chemo/RAD+ multi surgery complications she sees life as "enjoy it while ya got it!" (cant say I disagree) However I took a different route after Iraq and a few "experiences" reminding me of how short ones time may be.....but not avoiding that which I am afraid of. Embracing my "inner Sockmonkey" (I was terrified of them as a child -now my mascot) Horribly afraid of open water swimming?-do a Ironman LOL!, Eat Sushi, go Scuba diving....etc. Don't know about leaving a good looking corpse...but at least I'll have tried/done a few things!