@ Sandro- Welcome to the island! Pull up a chair and relax.
@ Sue- Thanks for asking. She broke out again Friday. Took her to our PCP and he tweeked things. General consensis is stress induced. She's been having a terrible time at school. We had to have her reassigned to a new classroom because of the treatment in her old. Started her on Pepcid as her antihistimine instead of benadryl. Working well. Yes guys Pepcid is an anti histimine.
The hives have finally resolved. So she is doing better and conversely so am I. I really appreciate your asking. You made my day. I can't imagine a "short" run being 10 miles. Alas, only in my dreams. You are my running hero!
@ Kim- Have a safe trip. It's nice to run/ride by feel.
Hi folks. I'm a sometimes lurker on this thread. It's nice to see folks keeping in touch outside of actual training disciplines.
@Jacklyn- Yes, Pepcid is an antihistamine but primarily an H2 receptor (stomach acid release stimulator) blocker and not so much of an H1 blocker (typical allergy/hypersensitivity reactions). There's also the H3 receptors but I don't want to put you to sleep in the middle of the afternoon. So my question is about the kind of symptoms the doc is looking to treat. It is good that she is responding to Pepcid. Not having read any of the previous posts about this I sound a little clueless but H2 blockers can seem to help typical allergy symptoms in the throat and sinuses. That is because reducing stomach acid can lessen the irritation of those areas if the patient has, unbeknownst to them, any kind of reflux happening. It doesn't take much at all and if you're a sensitive person already it can be downright yucky.
Is she still taking H1 blockers, like the Benadryl? Is this a topical and/or eye reaction as well as a nasopharyngeal problem? ETA: I went back to look and GEEZ!! That was a serious situation. I wonder if they skipped the antihistamines and went right to methylprednisolone or something. Bendadryl or Atarax would be the med they discharge her with, assuming that would do the trick. This is a different kettle of fish. Do keep us posted.
@ Peter- The clinic started my girl on prednisone and benadryl Q4h. The benadryl wasn't cutting it. By Friday morning the hives had spread to her legs. Took her to our Primary and he decreased the Prednisone, added Pepcid and made the benadryl as needed. Gave her 1 dose of pepcid and with in 2 hours her hives were almost gone. Our primary sending out serum allergy screening. But honestly, there was nothing new in her world. The only thing new was moving to the new classroom. She did tell her Grandma that she was really scared of what her old classmates were going to say to her. My mother gets stress induced hives.
Sometimes I wish I could wrap her up in bubble wrap and never let her out of the house. It's really hard to get her to talk about what's going on because she doesn't want to disappoint us. She tries to put up a brave face and soldier on but then she soldiers right into a brick wall. The drama of raising children. Love it! LOL Wouldn't trade it for the world.
Peter thank you so much. I really appreciate your concern.
My misfit training consisted of a 33 mile ride through some wonderful fall hills. Luckily I decided to wear my new Giro air attack helmet because the wind kicked up big time the last half of the ride and I was able to use the visor. The wind really gets to my eyes.
I set a good pace and strung together, like a pearl necklace, a bunch of large rollers. It was like doing z4-5 intervals for 30 miles. Average pace 15 mph with a head wind coming back the last 12 miles. I'm pooped! When I ride it's my time to myself and I get to "think" about things. SO it's part therapy and part exercise. I like to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
@ Kim- Hope you had a safe flight to Cali.
@ Sue- Good for you for standing down and getting some rest. The Coaches are going to be killing us soon enough.
Ahh, that clue about a relative experiencing anxiety induced hives is a game changer. Now that the docs know this and have seen the H2 blocker working I bet they're changing course.
5 mile run this morning on legs that didn't feel as rested as they should. Hopped on the bike tonight for 6x1 min VO2 intervals. Getting excited for the OS! Happy Monday!
@ Racheal- Nice work. Run and a ride in 1 day. Your made of stern stuff lady! Happy Tuesday. It's raining here.
@ Peter- Allergy testing came back and my daughter is negative for everything. Plan to finish prednisone and pepcid by Thursday. Then see what happens. Going to have to try and figure out how to help her manage her stress. One more thing on the developmental list of things to do.
Today's pre OS training plan is a run in the rain. Yippy!
Have a wonderful day everyone. I'm planning on it.
Sometimes medical mysteries aren't that much fun... Sorry, Jacklyn.
So, what is this OS I see people mentioning? In all seriousness, I've been given clearance to resume some 'training' (if you could call it that). It's good that the OS has you do most of your work on the trainer.
@ Peter- The OS. Ahhh. That's where the Coach's put the fast on the far. Get ready for some pain buddy. You are going to see grown men cry like babies. And the Coach's laugh evilly and rub their hands together. But on the good side this is also where you will see the "TEAM" develop and the MOJO really crank up. It's alot of very hard work and alot of fun too. Because everyone in the Haus is on roughly the same training plan. Not everyone will do the NOS but almost everyone will do the JOS.
There's alot of teaching, learning and discussion going on. It's really cool. But be warned there is a significant dose of whining involved too. Especially from our northern team mates while the Southern team mates laugh at them.
In the OS you need to be even more watchful of your fatigue level and recovery. Optimize your nutrition for recovery and don't " follow the plan into a brick wall." If you need a day off or two. Take it. Don't try and make it up. Let it go. The NOS is bonus time. What ever you do is money in the bank for next summer.
Did a 7 miler at lunch. Wasn't happy with how my legs were feeling- no pain but just blah. However, when I mapped my route out after (didn't have my garmin), it came to a 8:25 pace, so I'm happy. My mileage has actually been on the lower side the last 1.5 weeks, so not quite sure where my happy fresh feeling legs went!
Misfit training today consisted of my first dreadmill run since April. Yuk. I was so hot. Ran for 30 minutes. Cooked myself. Need to go claim one of the floor fans.
Officially started my body comp. reduction plan today. No cupcake train here.
Once u submit your 2015 race plan, Coach R will let u know which OS (nov or jan) u should do. I personally like the OS. Love the short n fast intervals!
I was actually making a self-deprecating joke (or whatever else you might call it) about the OS. Doing the NOS totally turned my 2013 season around culminating in a sub-12 IM Mont Tremblant and breaking 5:30 on a difficult HIM course. I totally get it what it can do for you. Last winter's OS had also made my fitness even better, helping me take 5 minutes off my PR and get to a 1:35 half-mary. I was doing quite well at American Zofingen last May - until I suddenly wasn't. Now you might say that I'm really on the island of misfit triathletes.
I'm still going to stick around EN though. I've been given clearance to begin training again so I'm going to start the NOS (does it start on 10/27?) but I don't think my eyesight (double vision issues among other stuff being wrong with this) is going to be fixed any time soon. Biking will be limited to the trainer until then. I can jog now, just not on a treadmill. Maybe an elliptical would be safe, just not a lot of fun. I don't have any race plans this coming year but I will use the training as rehab. Maybe I can get up to 2W/Kg and a VDOT of 30.
Eh, it's a long story. None of the EN folks also at the race saw it happen; they either just heard about it or saw the scene where I was being set up for the ambulance. It was at American Zofingen last May. I am dealing with some physical and neuromuscular issues but the cognitive and memory stuff is harder to deal with. I found out that Keith Wick actually stopped his race to see to me and then call my wife to let her know. He had to leave a voicemail (she was in church at the time so didn't pick up) and it totally freaked her out. I still get to hear her tell that story every now and then. Yeah, that and the diamond tennis bracelet she says I promised her. She even says she has witnesses...
The coaches and some of the EN folks have been in touch with me and have been very nice. I'm not sure what my athletic future holds but that doesn't mean I'm not going to work at it. I probably won't be considered a challenged athlete though. They don't really recognize those with traumatic brain injuries, only more visible problems like blindness, amputations or spinal cord injuries. That said, I'm considering working up to maybe being a guide athlete. Not the bike until my eyes work properly again though. The first blind athlete completed Kona last weekend, first ever. It would be cool to get someone across an IM finish line someday.
Saw the Doc again, due to numbing and weakness in my arm. He Rx prednison for the swelling and NO activity for 2-3 weeks. So, I'll have to run and ride vicariously through all of your posts. Hopefully, I can pickup during the second week of the NOV OS. Hopefully.
@ Jacklyn - How are you liking the Giro Air Attack? I am leaning towards that as my new helmet.
@Phil- Love it! Decided to use it Monday because it was cold and windy. Mainly for the visor because my eyes water really bad when the wind blows. The resulting snot production isn't a lot of fun. Found that when the head wind kicked up I was able to maintain my speed with no eye watering to be found. There are visor vents at the top of the lens. I could feel the wind blowing across my eyelids with a side wind but no eye watering with a head wind. I actually noted a 1 mph average increase for the ride even with the wind. Rarely a tail wind to be found. I was riding a route with a lot of big rollers and was able to clock good climbing times. I found the helmet to be warmer than expected. I have really short hair so when air is moving I can feel it. Not really a big deal. By the time I got home it was 83 degrees and I didn't feel over heated or need to dump water under the helmet. All around a great helmet. It took very little to adjust and I have found it to be comfortable. I got mine at competitive cyclist for $119.00. Hope this helps.
@ Peter- So have gone through with your promise and gotten her the bracelet? Ya know that promises like that acru interest. I hear it compounds annually.
2 days with no training felt like a week! Maybe that's the jet lag. Off to Cali Monday morning, ate crap for 2 days, went to the Ellen show taping and took the red eye home tues night. Took a nap this morning, did some work then the wed. Night group rail trail ride. Not as fast as other rides but felt hard. 22 miles, avg moving speed 14.7, avg HR 147.
Did a track workout with a friend- ran to the track (1.6 miles), then 400 hard/400 easy, 800 hard/800 easy, 1200 hard/1200 easy, 1600 hard, run home (1.6 mi) easy. Tough but enjoyed it. Half marathon is just over 2 weeks away! I'm excited!
way to go Jacklyn! what doesnt kill u makes u stronger!
nice job Rachel. Sounds like your track wko was way more successful than mine. I hit some traffic so i fot to the track late. Then The first track I went to was a no go due to a soccer game. Next track was good to go but the lights went off at 7:15 so wko was over. Only got 1/2 way through but I guess it's a nice transition back to speed work, right? Did 4 x 200 and 2 x 400. Target pace was 8:55 but did 200s at 8:08-8:16 and 400s at around 8:30. Felt good. Track + Adiads Boost feels super bouncy!
Jacklyn- Not tall buildings, but maybe I could have made it over some hurdles. LOL Although my right glute/hammy is pretty tight so doubt I'd have the flexibility for that! It feels almost effortless to run on the track with those sneaks, which is prob why I was running faster than target. Would have beeneven faster prob without previously mentioned tight hammy!
Misfit for today was a 4.2 mile run. It felt smooth and fast. Strava doesn't agree though. I really thought I would come in sub 10's. Nope. Oh well. I am continuing my quest of, " no metrics on the run/bike by feel only taper into the OS". Trying to focus more on solid form and relocate the "fun".
I was eating my post run lunch of turkey and avacado's when it dawned on me that at this time last year. When I signed up with EN with not a mile run for 20+ years. I couldn't run to the stop sign, @ 1/8 th mile, without sucking wind. I just ran 4.2 miles without walking. And I liked it!!!! I actually high fived 2 women running on the path as they went by. My life is cool.
Did a metric century today organized by LBS. Started out trying to keep up with my usual Sat. am guys but they were doing closer to 18mph vs. the posted 15-16 so I only lasted 20 mi w them before hanging back with the slower crew. First 1:10 @ .92IF. Total ride 65 mi,, 2,426ft gain (but felt like more!), avg moving speed 16.1 mph, overall .83IF.
Thinking I prob won't do the 80mi ride a local group is doing next week, unless it is flat!
Hope everyone is having a great weekend! Pretty warm here today for CT this time of year, jsut a few rain drops.
@ Kim- Nice job. Sounds like you had a good ride. The weather not going to last much longer. If that 80 mi is on your bucket list go for it. Just adjust your expectations and enjoy it! If you do it I challenge you to ride it with no metrics except Strava.
Comments
@ Sandro- Welcome to the island! Pull up a chair and relax.
@ Sue- Thanks for asking. She broke out again Friday. Took her to our PCP and he tweeked things. General consensis is stress induced. She's been having a terrible time at school. We had to have her reassigned to a new classroom because of the treatment in her old. Started her on Pepcid as her antihistimine instead of benadryl. Working well. Yes guys Pepcid is an anti histimine.
The hives have finally resolved. So she is doing better and conversely so am I. I really appreciate your asking. You made my day.
I can't imagine a "short" run being 10 miles. Alas, only in my dreams. You are my running hero!
@ Kim- Have a safe trip. It's nice to run/ride by feel.
Hi folks. I'm a sometimes lurker on this thread. It's nice to see folks keeping in touch outside of actual training disciplines.
@Jacklyn- Yes, Pepcid is an antihistamine but primarily an H2 receptor (stomach acid release stimulator) blocker and not so much of an H1 blocker (typical allergy/hypersensitivity reactions). There's also the H3 receptors but I don't want to put you to sleep in the middle of the afternoon. So my question is about the kind of symptoms the doc is looking to treat. It is good that she is responding to Pepcid. Not having read any of the previous posts about this I sound a little clueless but H2 blockers can seem to help typical allergy symptoms in the throat and sinuses. That is because reducing stomach acid can lessen the irritation of those areas if the patient has, unbeknownst to them, any kind of reflux happening. It doesn't take much at all and if you're a sensitive person already it can be downright yucky.
Is she still taking H1 blockers, like the Benadryl? Is this a topical and/or eye reaction as well as a nasopharyngeal problem? ETA: I went back to look and GEEZ!! That was a serious situation. I wonder if they skipped the antihistamines and went right to methylprednisolone or something. Bendadryl or Atarax would be the med they discharge her with, assuming that would do the trick. This is a different kettle of fish. Do keep us posted.
@ Peter- The clinic started my girl on prednisone and benadryl Q4h. The benadryl wasn't cutting it. By Friday morning the hives had spread to her legs. Took her to our Primary and he decreased the Prednisone, added Pepcid and made the benadryl as needed. Gave her 1 dose of pepcid and with in 2 hours her hives were almost gone. Our primary sending out serum allergy screening. But honestly, there was nothing new in her world. The only thing new was moving to the new classroom. She did tell her Grandma that she was really scared of what her old classmates were going to say to her. My mother gets stress induced hives.
Sometimes I wish I could wrap her up in bubble wrap and never let her out of the house. It's really hard to get her to talk about what's going on because she doesn't want to disappoint us. She tries to put up a brave face and soldier on but then she soldiers right into a brick wall. The drama of raising children. Love it! LOL Wouldn't trade it for the world.
Peter thank you so much. I really appreciate your concern.
My misfit training consisted of a 33 mile ride through some wonderful fall hills. Luckily I decided to wear my new Giro air attack helmet because the wind kicked up big time the last half of the ride and I was able to use the visor. The wind really gets to my eyes.
I set a good pace and strung together, like a pearl necklace, a bunch of large rollers. It was like doing z4-5 intervals for 30 miles. Average pace 15 mph with a head wind coming back the last 12 miles. I'm pooped! When I ride it's my time to myself and I get to "think" about things. SO it's part therapy and part exercise. I like to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
@ Kim- Hope you had a safe flight to Cali.
@ Sue- Good for you for standing down and getting some rest. The Coaches are going to be killing us soon enough.
Ahh, that clue about a relative experiencing anxiety induced hives is a game changer. Now that the docs know this and have seen the H2 blocker working I bet they're changing course.
@ Racheal- Nice work. Run and a ride in 1 day. Your made of stern stuff lady! Happy Tuesday. It's raining here.
@ Peter- Allergy testing came back and my daughter is negative for everything. Plan to finish prednisone and pepcid by Thursday. Then see what happens. Going to have to try and figure out how to help her manage her stress. One more thing on the developmental list of things to do.
Today's pre OS training plan is a run in the rain. Yippy!
Have a wonderful day everyone. I'm planning on it.
Sometimes medical mysteries aren't that much fun... Sorry, Jacklyn.
So, what is this OS I see people mentioning? In all seriousness, I've been given clearance to resume some 'training' (if you could call it that). It's good that the OS has you do most of your work on the trainer.
@ Peter- The OS. Ahhh. That's where the Coach's put the fast on the far. Get ready for some pain buddy. You are going to see grown men cry like babies. And the Coach's laugh evilly and rub their hands together. But on the good side this is also where you will see the "TEAM" develop and the MOJO really crank up. It's alot of very hard work and alot of fun too. Because everyone in the Haus is on roughly the same training plan. Not everyone will do the NOS but almost everyone will do the JOS.
There's alot of teaching, learning and discussion going on. It's really cool. But be warned there is a significant dose of whining involved too. Especially from our northern team mates while the Southern team mates laugh at them.
In the OS you need to be even more watchful of your fatigue level and recovery. Optimize your nutrition for recovery and don't " follow the plan into a brick wall." If you need a day off or two. Take it. Don't try and make it up. Let it go. The NOS is bonus time. What ever you do is money in the bank for next summer.
Have fun!
Misfit training today consisted of my first dreadmill run since April. Yuk. I was so hot. Ran for 30 minutes. Cooked myself. Need to go claim one of the floor fans.
Officially started my body comp. reduction plan today. No cupcake train here.
http://members.endurancenation.us/Resources/Wiki/tabid/91/Default.aspx?topic=OutSeason+Master+Page
Once u submit your 2015 race plan, Coach R will let u know which OS (nov or jan) u should do. I personally like the OS. Love the short n fast intervals!
Hi Kim,
I was actually making a self-deprecating joke (or whatever else you might call it) about the OS. Doing the NOS totally turned my 2013 season around culminating in a sub-12 IM Mont Tremblant and breaking 5:30 on a difficult HIM course. I totally get it what it can do for you. Last winter's OS had also made my fitness even better, helping me take 5 minutes off my PR and get to a 1:35 half-mary. I was doing quite well at American Zofingen last May - until I suddenly wasn't. Now you might say that I'm really on the island of misfit triathletes.
I'm still going to stick around EN though. I've been given clearance to begin training again so I'm going to start the NOS (does it start on 10/27?) but I don't think my eyesight (double vision issues among other stuff being wrong with this) is going to be fixed any time soon. Biking will be limited to the trainer until then. I can jog now, just not on a treadmill. Maybe an elliptical would be safe, just not a lot of fun. I don't have any race plans this coming year but I will use the training as rehab. Maybe I can get up to 2W/Kg and a VDOT of 30.
@ Peter- What happened? How can we help you?
Eh, it's a long story. None of the EN folks also at the race saw it happen; they either just heard about it or saw the scene where I was being set up for the ambulance. It was at American Zofingen last May. I am dealing with some physical and neuromuscular issues but the cognitive and memory stuff is harder to deal with. I found out that Keith Wick actually stopped his race to see to me and then call my wife to let her know. He had to leave a voicemail (she was in church at the time so didn't pick up) and it totally freaked her out. I still get to hear her tell that story every now and then. Yeah, that and the diamond tennis bracelet she says I promised her. She even says she has witnesses...
The coaches and some of the EN folks have been in touch with me and have been very nice. I'm not sure what my athletic future holds but that doesn't mean I'm not going to work at it. I probably won't be considered a challenged athlete though. They don't really recognize those with traumatic brain injuries, only more visible problems like blindness, amputations or spinal cord injuries. That said, I'm considering working up to maybe being a guide athlete. Not the bike until my eyes work properly again though. The first blind athlete completed Kona last weekend, first ever. It would be cool to get someone across an IM finish line someday.
@ Jacklyn - How are you liking the Giro Air Attack? I am leaning towards that as my new helmet.
@Phil- Love it! Decided to use it Monday because it was cold and windy. Mainly for the visor because my eyes water really bad when the wind blows. The resulting snot production isn't a lot of fun. Found that when the head wind kicked up I was able to maintain my speed with no eye watering to be found. There are visor vents at the top of the lens. I could feel the wind blowing across my eyelids with a side wind but no eye watering with a head wind. I actually noted a 1 mph average increase for the ride even with the wind. Rarely a tail wind to be found. I was riding a route with a lot of big rollers and was able to clock good climbing times. I found the helmet to be warmer than expected. I have really short hair so when air is moving I can feel it. Not really a big deal. By the time I got home it was 83 degrees and I didn't feel over heated or need to dump water under the helmet. All around a great helmet. It took very little to adjust and I have found it to be comfortable. I got mine at competitive cyclist for $119.00. Hope this helps.
@ Peter- So have gone through with your promise and gotten her the bracelet? Ya know that promises like that acru interest. I hear it compounds annually.
Today's misfit was a 1:40:00 sprint. Managed 25+ miles and 15.4mph with a cross wind. I'm cooked!
nice job Rachel. Sounds like your track wko was way more successful than mine. I hit some traffic so i fot to the track late. Then The first track I went to was a no go due to a soccer game. Next track was good to go but the lights went off at 7:15 so wko was over. Only got 1/2 way through but I guess it's a nice transition back to speed work, right? Did 4 x 200 and 2 x 400. Target pace was 8:55 but did 200s at 8:08-8:16 and 400s at around 8:30. Felt good. Track + Adiads Boost feels super bouncy!
@ Kim- Does "Bouncy" mean can leap tall buildings with a single bound?
@ Kim- Maybe it's not the sneakers but YOU who are that fast. HMMMM
Misfit for today was a 4.2 mile run. It felt smooth and fast. Strava doesn't agree though. I really thought I would come in sub 10's. Nope. Oh well. I am continuing my quest of, " no metrics on the run/bike by feel only taper into the OS". Trying to focus more on solid form and relocate the "fun".
I was eating my post run lunch of turkey and avacado's when it dawned on me that at this time last year. When I signed up with EN with not a mile run for 20+ years. I couldn't run to the stop sign, @ 1/8 th mile, without sucking wind. I just ran 4.2 miles without walking. And I liked it!!!! I actually high fived 2 women running on the path as they went by. My life is cool.
Thanks Rachael. It's kind of cool to think about.
Thinking I prob won't do the 80mi ride a local group is doing next week, unless it is flat!
Hope everyone is having a great weekend! Pretty warm here today for CT this time of year, jsut a few rain drops.
@ Kim- Nice job. Sounds like you had a good ride. The weather not going to last much longer. If that 80 mi is on your bucket list go for it. Just adjust your expectations and enjoy it! If you do it I challenge you to ride it with no metrics except Strava.