Short Sleeve vs. tank Tri Top?
Anyone used a short sleeve tri top? I can see how there would be aero benefit, but was wondering how it impacts cooling given the armpits (as I understand) are important in cooling.
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Anyone used a short sleeve tri top? I can see how there would be aero benefit, but was wondering how it impacts cooling given the armpits (as I understand) are important in cooling.
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Up until a couple of years ago I routinely raced IMs in tri bibs and a sleeveless top, or a sleeveless tri suit. Last year, when EN started selling the LG full zip jersey with the TIGHT sleeves, I switched to that for Kona. I think the sun protection outweighed any slight effect on cooling. This year, it may be an "aero" tri suit with sleeves. Like arm coolers, you can always pour water on the sleeves.
http://www.louisgarneau.com/us-en/product/826878/1020793/Triathlon_Tops/COURSE_M-2_TRI_JERSEY#second
For custom printing, I am wondering if the Course SS Jersey is the same thing?
http://custom.louisgarneau.com/products/index.asp?category=tops&categories=triathlon&style_no=5E20803
Peter, Jeremy - PM Juan Vergara, he is putting together a group buy for an EN logged sleeved aero tri suit, ordering soon. I will let him know you might be interested, but that is the extent of my mediation.
I'm all for the sun protection. makes recovery so much easier.
it's a bit pricey...I'm waiting on the final price but expect similar to the MSRP for a low volume order. If we lock in today or tomorrow it would ship by end of August so here in time for IMMOO, Louisville, IMCHOO, etc.
If you are interested I need your commitment now as I will be putting down a 50% deposit. You don't need to lock in your size for another week or so.
Design would be carried over from the existing Tri Top and bottoms.
Please reply to this thread if you are willing to commit and if we get enough numbers I'll move forward.
Update...expect shipped price to be in the $250 range.
Per LG the design is unisex " Minimum is 6 units per style and this is a unisex style, there is no women’s specific available. "...so while the size guide says "Mens sizing" that's the default label....sizing goes down to 3XS you just need to look at the grid to determine where you'd fit.
If we can get to 12 the price will drop about $40
EN Kona Tri top and bottom look great. I submitted my info. (Its been a while, but 1989 Hawaii Ironman Finisher)
Originally I began working with LG on the development of the KONA SPECIFIC, design and have evolved quite a bit.
In the mean time, Patrick took the lead and we have decided that we will go with the CASTELLI kit to KONA.
However, I have not yet told LG that we will not go forward therefore you can pick it up where I left it and very quickly get an order going with a minimum of 6 UNITS. I have all the history in my email therefore it is best if you email me at juanmvergara@yahoo.com and I will hand it over to you so that all those interested below can follow your lead (assuming you want to take the lead).
Otherwise tell me not and I will tell the LG people that the project is dead (for now).
Regards,
Juan
Kona only kits now? Seems like a small thing, but also seems like a little class system is being created inside of EN. The Kona people and the rest of the people.... If you get to Kona by lottery, charity or other means does it still count or must you qualify in race?
Slipping away are the days of one big team I suppose.
Jeremy,
Thanks for putting this together. Put me down as interested/committed to the LG tri suit or sleeved top.
I thought about this when I read the thread and wasn't going to mention this but since you brought it up I felt I would comment.
[Start snark]> Yeah, I wish I could get privately schooled every week on the bike by Coach R > [End snark]
This all started when someone asked if we could get a sleeved racing tri suit with EN logos on it. I signed on; there was nothing that I saw was suggesting there would be any "Kona specific" detailing on it. Now, this design... maybe we should merge the two "buys" (open this Castelli sleeved tri suit to all, complete with Kona badge), leaving the Kona "logo" as a motivation to those who haven't gone, and as a statement about the quality of our team overall. Personally, I'm proud of being an EN member and also having made it to Kona with EN's help and don't mind displaying that pride during races.
I'd note a few things:
I think we are all still residents of Lake Woebegon here: Smart, Good-Looking, and Above Average.
What questions and concerns do you have, specifically, so others can answer them?
^This^
Before everyone gets all spun up about RnP implementing a sinister plan to balkanize EN into the Cool Kids and the Not So Much, you should step back and reflect on what you know about Patrick and I, how we work, and we've worked to create here. Maybe there's more to the story here than you know: the timeline of producing and delivering on any kit (design, taking orders, production and shipping), the significant time constraints having to deliver items to people before specific races, and much, much more.
I'm guess I'm asking you to step back and give us the benefit of the doubt, allowing us to explain the full picture that none of you really have. Patrick will be along shortly with that. Thanks!
The background on a sleeved-kit purchase for Kona is that it was suggested to me by one of your teammates, telling me there were several other Kona-bound folks looking for something similar.
For those of you who haven’t been to Kona, it’s kind of a tradition there to have unique stuff. You get lots of cool stuff from vendors and the expo; everyone brings out their best. Just like you might wear a green Boston-strong shirt with your name on it for the Boston Marathon (but not anywhere else), in Kona you wear your best and brightest.
Contrast that awesome unique vibe with Endurance Nation, where literally half of our athletes, every year, have make up their own kit for Hawaii. Not EN colors. Not EN logo. Not EN brand. You can search the archives to see Dave Tallo, Woody and others — as a business (and we are a business, not just a community), being on the world stage with 50% of your customers not representing is a crime.
Instead of repeating the last five years of the Kona experience per the usual, I agreed we could do a kit for the race. But at the same time I decided to make it be just for Kona folks (yes, 100% my call) since the logistics of managing a mid-season kit satisfactorily across an 800 person time is impossible. As it stands we are in week eight of this process and it looks like getting anything before mid-September will be a miracle. I am looking at this as a small opportunity to test a new vendor, new kit, and hopefully have something that we can present to the Team for the 2016 season.
As of right now, everyone on the Team has a great kit to race in. I have raced in our kit for years and it’s fast, comfortable and clearly EN-branded. If you want to have your own personal kit with logos and colors from your vendor of choice, we can certainly supply those to you as we have done in the past to many of your teammates.
What started out as a great way to recognize the hard work and accomplishment of our amazing Kona athletes has turned out to look like something entirely different. I didn’t want the line to be “someone who has money to buy an extra top” or “only the people who saw it before the deadline” or “only people who know Coach Patrick,” etc. I wanted it to be clear and simple — Kona or not.
Hopefully this description reaffirms our commitment to the Team. Celebrating our Kona athletes is not an attempt to exclude the other 98% of the Team. You can see that in our actions, in our words, our business practices and much more.
If there are further concerns about this, please feel free to call me directly: (617) 513-3830 Cell Phone (EST Time).