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JanOS 2018 Run Thread – Week 1 – Building Run Durability

Welcome to Run Week 1!  This is our weekly Run Mojo thread for both the Run-Focused and Bike-Focused OS plans.  


This first OS week may not seem like a super-hard run week, but it’s a critical start to Run Durability.  We’re building a foundation of fitness to be able to run for extended times and/or distances without slowing down due to fatigue, injury, or lack of focus

Key Points to Consider for This Week:

  • There are 4 or 5 runs planned for this week depending the level (1, 2, or 3).  Decide on your level; and don’t be afraid to start at level 1 to get used to running again; also feel free to downgrade a WKO if you’re not 100% on a given day (i.e. drop from level 3 to level 1)
  • If you’re just finishing a Run Durability plan, you may find the run WKOs easy.  Don’t worry, everything in the OS gets pretty hard by Week 3 or 4.  The quality long run for both plans is listed at 60 minutes, so consider extending it a bit if needed but don’t overdo the intensity
  • If you’re like me and haven’t been running much, the WKOs will likely be challenging.  Focus on durability over speed.  Your TRP pace is likely much slower than last year when you were in peak race form, so adjust accordingly and slow it down as needed
  • Decide what type of strength work to do.  Everyone should be doing core work each week – planks at a minimum.  Others can add strength sets as needed.  If you’re over 50, strength training is highly recommended
  • Decide whether you’ll swim.  I plan to swim at least 1x per week, but they’ll be short workouts: maybe just 30 minutes with super-fast 50s and arm-speed drills.  For me it’s convenient to do swim-run bricks at the Y; these should fit nicely for the Friday workouts

Here is your Core/Strength/Flexibility Exercise for The Week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdenOdoz-MI

This is a great routine to condition the hips and glutes for the rigors of running.  You may find that one side is easier than the other; this exercise can help correct an imbalance that could impact your running stride

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Load up your OutSeason plan (end date is 4/15/2018), get running, and let’s see some serious mojo on this thread!

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  • @paul curtin what, no powerpoint on this?
    seriously, well organized thoughts up there, and looking to execute & learn from the uber runners we have in the JOS... I saw @Derrek Sanks lurking with a "like' in the JOS Bike forum.. I am assuming that master of the run will be here to lay down the challenge for all!

    Last year I started a 100 runs in 100 days back in december. My hip hasn't allowed me to do that this year, but I am hoping to start that effort up tomorrow! the key to durability for me was "mileage via frequency." Some days I'd run 3 miles in the morning and hit the gym 'mill at night for another 2... those little efforts added up!

    Run on!
  • Alright, time go get serious.

    I want to run faster than last year but the @Paul Curtin poker face to make it look easy =)

    Post IMLOU I did RDP 1,2 and the last 2 weeks of RDP 3 and I am now where @Coach Patrick  wanted me to be - 50k/WEEK (around 30mpw).

    I know I am supposed to do the run focused but as already discussed with many of you I dont like where my bike is.

    Probably alot of us will be running outside on snow, ice and in the dark - be safe !
  • @Francis PicardI will be doing >90% of running in the Zwift...super safe.  Probably do my testing on the track though.
  • Hip, back, or whatever is run-limiting me right now will require a slow walk-run ramp and plenty of strength/flexibility (rehab). I did well in RDP until the failure last week. Bike focus now... but I love to run, and patience is NOT my strength. My solution is to substitute swimming/rehab for the run minutes initially. 
  • Yes I'm here @Scott Dinhofer! Way to call me out  :)  I've been doing a running steak since Nov 1 slowly increasing my mpw from 18 to 40. Now that JOS has started I'll follow the plan and add a couple easy/short runs to continue my streak. This year I'll be running the NYC Half Marathon as my Spring race. 

    Looking forward to having @Paul Curtin and @Scott Dinhofer as Captains this OS. Thanks for volunteering!
  • Looking forward to this OS very much!  I will be running in Zwift mostly, fell in love with it and now I prefer it over outside during these c old days - I am just getting over the flu so I need to be inside to keep on the mend, plus I have not ran with any real intensity or focus since 2014.  Time to make the donuts. 
  • OK - have been resting the hip for 8 weeks, I think that i ran less than 5 times in week 2 & 3 after IMKY before realizing how bad my hip was. Everything does  not feel 100%, but I did get a clear MRI, seeing doc this week for more, but got my 1st run in as a 3 miler on the treddy, lots of re-building to do. Gym has new mills with a multi media platform on it. was watching a youtube video of the last 4 miles of IM-Kona Run to get me pumped while running!
  • Yes I'm here @Scott Dinhofer! Way to call me out  :)  I've been doing a running steak since Nov 1 slowly increasing my mpw from 18 to 40. Now that JOS has started I'll follow the plan and add a couple easy/short runs to continue my streak. This year I'll be running the NYC Half Marathon as my Spring race. 

    Looking forward to having @Paul Curtin and @Scott Dinhofer as Captains this OS. Thanks for volunteering!

    SD - totally jealous of your runstreak! just got my 1st run in 2 months done tonight... I also have an entry to the NYC half.. hopefully everything stays on track with my hip!
  • Got in 20' on the treadmill tonight for the 1st run of the OS.  I am again coming back to running.  Apparently I was carrying my kid around too much along with ramping up running and got some early signs of PF so I shut things down 2 weeks before the OS.  Just back to running a after Christmas so nothing flashy for me just 3X week for the first couple seeing how I respond.  

    I also got in the core exercises, planks, stretch cords and push ups along with Paul's additional exercise.  
  • Great Intro @Paul Curtin. I am psyched!
  • After FTP test today, did 30' on the TM @ TRP.
  • day 2, 2.1 mi on the mill. having my hamstring/glute issue flare up, seeing doc tomorrow. Ughhhh

  • @Paul Curtin

     - are we supposed to do this as the core workout, or the coach rich exercises posted as part of OS or both. 

    Here is your Core/Strength/Flexibility Exercise for The Week:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdenOdoz-MI


    Thanks 

    andy 
  • 4 miles on the TM this tonight with strides. It took about a mile for my leg to loosen up from this mornings FTP bike.

    @Scott Dinhofer, hope to see you at the NYC Half...so get those issues resolved soon. :smile:  Have you tried ART from a sports PT or Chiro?

    @Andrew Lustigman, the hip activation routine would be in addition to the core exercises and is good to do before running as it helps to activate and prepare the glutes for running.  
  • Man, I suck at running as much as I do at biking right now.  Give it time....  35 min with some strides today.  I'm just trying to go through the process.
  • Hi all!  Coming back from a run injury (boooo!) that kept me off my feet all of October and November.  Just did some very short and sloooowww miles in December.  Did 35' post bike today (my first hard effort since IMLP!) all very slow.  BUT...its where I'm at.  Not where I plan to stay.  No strides, as my new turtle pace got my HR up quite high by the end of the 35'.  :neutral:  Onwards!  

    PS...thank you @Paul Curtin and @Scott Dinhofer for herding us cats through the OS!
  • First week Run 1 DONE!  I have been away from structured workouts for years to have two kiddos.  Now I mostly run/yoga/lift because it's the easiest to do with them around or pushing them.  Goal in the first few weeks is simply to do the mandatory runs (2). I'm a SAHM and also work full time from home, so I don't have much more than 8 hours a week to train.  And I did this morning's run - DONE!  The longest run since the early Fall, and haven't done anything longer than 30 min since then either.  Not as easy as I thought, but able to breathe through my nose (my heart rate indicator for TRP) the whole 60 min!  Go Team!
  • A belated thanks from me to @Paul Curtin and @Scott Dinhofer for captaining us through the Outseason!

    Was nice to sleep in a bit this morning and do the TRP run at lunch time - especially as the sun decided to make a (rare) appearance in London.  And pleased to be able to finish with the last mile at Z3.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/1349955618

  • I guess the excitement of the OS hit me!!  (an also maybe a mis-match between gadgets).

    I set the dreadmill to 10:20 min/mile pace, but for some reason my Garmin Fenix 3HR and HRM-TRI (for running dynamics) said I was going more of a 9:20 min/mile pace.  I just went with it and completed the 45 minute steady long run!   I even was able to negative split it!!

    https://www.strava.com/activities/1349849286


  • Wednesday run done.  First time running outside in a while.  It’s been cold and sludgy/Icy.  

    I got my 50 minutes in with little issue.  The legs felt meh since I’ve been biking more.  I did not have time to do the post bike run since a friend is in town and we had to go shopping all day.  Such a rough life, I know.
  • OK - have been resting the hip for 8 weeks, I think that i ran less than 5 times in week 2 & 3 after IMKY before realizing how bad my hip was. Everything does  not feel 100%, but I did get a clear MRI, seeing doc this week for more, but got my 1st run in as a 3 miler on the treddy, lots of re-building to do. Gym has new mills with a multi media platform on it. was watching a youtube video of the last 4 miles of IM-Kona Run to get me pumped while running!
    Scott - what's going on with your hip? 
  • 50' @ TRP done. Need to get outside more as most of my RD was on the TM.
  • Outside run, as it was actually in the upper 30s and no ice on the ground!  Well..."run" is a stretch...still recovering and coughing.  But I covered my 6 miles and no bloody hunks of lung came up.  :-)  I'm afraid I'm going to have a month of just getting back to the point where i'm really training again...but it's all good.  You gotta go with what brung ya.
  • Great work everyone!  I didn't run today, it was a travel day; opted for an easy spin in London on Zwift instead

    @Andrew Lustigman -- I agree with Derrek; right before is great.  I used to do these as part of my strength routine at the Y, but have switched to adding these to my yoga routine; just seems to work better with nobody watching

    @William Jenks -- give it time; keeping it slow is the right call

    @Jonathan Brown -- great pics!  Is that the Chrysler Building in the landscape shot?  I presume that's looking out over the East River
  • 23' on the treadmill tonight for me 2nd run of the week. 
  • Thanks @paul_curtin for the leadership!

    I rolled my ankle pretty good on a Sunday trail run & have been bracing it & using ibuprofen every day since.  I gave it a whirl on the treadmill yesterday after the bike and it was OK.  Did today's 60' on the TM as well for safety sake.  Not pain free, but not doing more damage.
  • @Paul Curtin. Yup that’s from Long Island City looking at the east river.  This is the first mile of my runs.  It’s a great way to relax
  • 60' trp run done, it started to ice rain tonight and start to be slippery so I had to be careful during my last 15'.


  • 60 min done this am.  I think I pushed a little to hard at the end.   Will see how tomorrow morning goes.

    Thanks to the captains and lets keep it going.
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