@Dave Tallo I was curious when I read this, so I went to FinisherPix to see what my heel looked like during a race. (Please don't judge me for not buying the $28 High Resolution picture of a non-Kona race just to post it here...) His heel is a few degrees lower than mine (but barely), but I'm guessing he also has a big dorsi-flexion when he runs... In Matt Dixon's recent cramping podcast he mentioned that if your heel is too high through your pedal stroke (for 5+ hours) that your calf muscle is constantly "shortened" which might lead to potential cramping on the run. But I'm certainly the WRONG guy to opine on that.
After much experimentation I feel like it helps smooth my pedal stroke by having more articulation in my ankle and ultimately a more efficient generation of watts. I hadn't thought of the flexibility carrying over to the run and potentially mitigating cramping but intuitively that makes sense.
This rocket ship is my flat course bike ... a 2010 Giant Advanced Trinity SL-1. The front DR and small chain ring are gone. It has a 1 x 10 drive using a 52 Wolftooth chain ring and a Wolftooth Roadlink to extend the throw of the rear DR since I keep a 12x30 cassette on there for the occasional bridge climb.
@Jeff Kane - what is the make/model of your 'race wagon'? Also, except for the changes to the front end hydration/bento, the Giant Trinity hasn't changed much since it first came out in 2010. However, the original is truly a TT bike ... there are zero water bottle bosses on my frame.
@Paul Hough- love the 1x. How did you get the FD mount /plate so clean after taking off the derailleur? I had to go to super-super high-res closeup to see evidence that there was ever one there.
A few changes for 2018 from this pic in Frankfurt 2017, Quarq PM with Dura ace 9100 rings, specialized Sitero saddle with integrated bottle mount & extensions stack lowered by 10mm.
since we've morphed from the runway to the bike positioning,. This pic shows the change from '15 setup to '17 with a spacer removed from under the cockpit. Hands are dropped in both pics and we fixed that with new aerobars.
@Paul Hough , 2008 Dodge Caravan SXT, seats dropped, platform made and drawers installed. I don’t like bikes in rain, too much ROI in cleaning and security!!
Was there another row of seats you had to remove? I wish car manufacturers understood that just because people want a bigger vehicle it doesn't mean they need seats for 7. I don't want to pay for seats just to throw them away.
@Paul Hough the 3rd row seats fold into the floor!. Middle row buckets swivel and have storage in the floor. As you can see under the platform is a storage drawer that runs the whole length for supplies. Other side is open where we store chairs and an umbrella. Hold 2 bikes which would face opposite directions because of handle bars. Very happy with this set up.
the bento was chosen due to it's size. I do a Weekly ride on Tuesday nights, yes night, where me and 6-12 guys hit the gravel roads of bedford horse country. the bento is big enough to hold the oversized battery of my headlight.
the entire bike is a Lauf True Grit. Google it for reviews. It's a gravel bike that handles more like a MTB. Jordan Rapp was the inspiration, he did one up for his gravel focus and wont the KOM on the BWR and then was 5th overall in the dirty Kanza. After doing thorough research on the bike, i came down to this bike, the Open Up or the 3T enduro and ended up with this. The 3T is a road bike geometry that will go on gravel, the Open Up is between this & the 3T. I also considered even more boutique bikes like the trail donkey & the salsa.
have to get back to you on gearing.. I believe we did 44 up front & largest rear is a 44... though i plan on experimenting with that to figure out the right gearing... have to see how things play out over the next year, I am hoping to do the DK in 20 or 21.
@Rich Stanbaugh does your 2017 have direct mount brakes? My 2018 does and I'd love to replace them with Tri-Rigs too, but I don't see those types offered on their site.
@Scott Alexander i'm not sure I know the answer... The Tri-rigs mount with a single bolt - but I have a plate between the brakes and frame that mounts to my frame with two bolts... so I think the answer is that my frame supports direct mount but there is a conversion plate for the tri-rigs? I love the brakes... they are wide open throws that never rub, but give good braking when you need it.
@Rich Stanbaugh , yes that makes sense. You have an adapter plate.
"Direct mount" (as far as I know the term) usually means two holes/bolts, directly in the forks.
My local friend here, who also has a Shiv, has the tririgs too, and I haven't asked her yet how they're mounted.
Problem is, as I have it currently, it's a PITA to adjust the brakes from race wheels to training wheels (more narrow) back-and-forth. There's a little barrel roll adjuster that my LBS just adjusted for me, which will hopefully be enough to use either wheel set on. I have yet to test if it works the way I envision or not.
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@Dave Tallo I was curious when I read this, so I went to FinisherPix to see what my heel looked like during a race. (Please don't judge me for not buying the $28 High Resolution picture of a non-Kona race just to post it here...) His heel is a few degrees lower than mine (but barely), but I'm guessing he also has a big dorsi-flexion when he runs... In Matt Dixon's recent cramping podcast he mentioned that if your heel is too high through your pedal stroke (for 5+ hours) that your calf muscle is constantly "shortened" which might lead to potential cramping on the run. But I'm certainly the WRONG guy to opine on that.
@Jeremy Behler and @Shaughn Simmons both have that nice turtled back shape while mine looks perfectly flat.
closest I could find to the bottom of the pedal stroke.
After much experimentation I feel like it helps smooth my pedal stroke by having more articulation in my ankle and ultimately a more efficient generation of watts. I hadn't thought of the flexibility carrying over to the run and potentially mitigating cramping but intuitively that makes sense.
This rocket ship is my flat course bike ... a 2010 Giant Advanced Trinity SL-1. The front DR and small chain ring are gone. It has a 1 x 10 drive using a 52 Wolftooth chain ring and a Wolftooth Roadlink to extend the throw of the rear DR since I keep a 12x30 cassette on there for the occasional bridge climb.
2016 Giant Advanced Trinity Pro - Quarq PM, Di2 Shifting - IMMD race ready!
Loaded in the “Racewagon” and heading to MD!
That is such a clean setup, Jeff. Nice.
@Jeff Kane - what is the make/model of your 'race wagon'? Also, except for the changes to the front end hydration/bento, the Giant Trinity hasn't changed much since it first came out in 2010. However, the original is truly a TT bike ... there are zero water bottle bosses on my frame.
@Paul Hough- love the 1x. How did you get the FD mount /plate so clean after taking off the derailleur? I had to go to super-super high-res closeup to see evidence that there was ever one there.
A few changes for 2018 from this pic in Frankfurt 2017, Quarq PM with Dura ace 9100 rings, specialized Sitero saddle with integrated bottle mount & extensions stack lowered by 10mm.
@Dave Tallo - it's very high tech! There are two bosses in the frame to hold the FD and I covered them with red electrical tape. :)
since we've morphed from the runway to the bike positioning,. This pic shows the change from '15 setup to '17 with a spacer removed from under the cockpit. Hands are dropped in both pics and we fixed that with new aerobars.
below is my Pre changed setup at IMLP '17
Todd at TTBike Fit rocks!
Cool bike and bonus for the setting - one of my favorite buildings in the world is about .5 km along that path.
@Paul Hough , 2008 Dodge Caravan SXT, seats dropped, platform made and drawers installed. I don’t like bikes in rain, too much ROI in cleaning and security!!
Was there another row of seats you had to remove? I wish car manufacturers understood that just because people want a bigger vehicle it doesn't mean they need seats for 7. I don't want to pay for seats just to throw them away.
@Paul Hough the 3rd row seats fold into the floor!. Middle row buckets swivel and have storage in the floor. As you can see under the platform is a storage drawer that runs the whole length for supplies. Other side is open where we store chairs and an umbrella. Hold 2 bikes which would face opposite directions because of handle bars. Very happy with this set up.
Going back to the runway edition #gravelgrinder #vermontisgravel
Just built today #channukahinOCT
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SRAM Force 1x, Stages PM
Enve C23 wheelset
Arundal cages
Easton flared bars/stem/post
@Scott_D - that bike is sweet right down to the Bento box. I would love a gravel bike but the admin time to actually use it is too prohibitive here.
@scott dinhofer Man that is a thing of beauty! I hope you get her dirty very soon!
the bento was chosen due to it's size. I do a Weekly ride on Tuesday nights, yes night, where me and 6-12 guys hit the gravel roads of bedford horse country. the bento is big enough to hold the oversized battery of my headlight.
@scott dinhofer - that’s great, right there. What make is the frame? And what size chainring do you have on the front?
the entire bike is a Lauf True Grit. Google it for reviews. It's a gravel bike that handles more like a MTB. Jordan Rapp was the inspiration, he did one up for his gravel focus and wont the KOM on the BWR and then was 5th overall in the dirty Kanza. After doing thorough research on the bike, i came down to this bike, the Open Up or the 3T enduro and ended up with this. The 3T is a road bike geometry that will go on gravel, the Open Up is between this & the 3T. I also considered even more boutique bikes like the trail donkey & the salsa.
have to get back to you on gearing.. I believe we did 44 up front & largest rear is a 44... though i plan on experimenting with that to figure out the right gearing... have to see how things play out over the next year, I am hoping to do the DK in 20 or 21.
@Rich Stanbaugh does your 2017 have direct mount brakes? My 2018 does and I'd love to replace them with Tri-Rigs too, but I don't see those types offered on their site.
New winter ride.
@Mark Stahlkopf -that's the only thing missing from my stable.. I will hopefully get out and rent one in VT this winter to try it out!
@Scott Alexander i'm not sure I know the answer... The Tri-rigs mount with a single bolt - but I have a plate between the brakes and frame that mounts to my frame with two bolts... so I think the answer is that my frame supports direct mount but there is a conversion plate for the tri-rigs? I love the brakes... they are wide open throws that never rub, but give good braking when you need it.
2018 IMCHOO, only picture I got from bike. Sorry bout the car. Going back to tweak fit for 2019
@Rich Stanbaugh , yes that makes sense. You have an adapter plate.
"Direct mount" (as far as I know the term) usually means two holes/bolts, directly in the forks.
My local friend here, who also has a Shiv, has the tririgs too, and I haven't asked her yet how they're mounted.
Problem is, as I have it currently, it's a PITA to adjust the brakes from race wheels to training wheels (more narrow) back-and-forth. There's a little barrel roll adjuster that my LBS just adjusted for me, which will hopefully be enough to use either wheel set on. I have yet to test if it works the way I envision or not.
@John Withrow , we can share P5 stories in a few weeks.
@Jeff Phillips Impressive matching of your kit to your bike! I approve!
Thanks @John Withrow . Look pro, go slow may be my unfortunate lot in life :)
Perhaps @Mariah Bridges can design some black and fluoro green team EN kit????