You mean I have < 72 hours to decide whether to include this in my 2013 plans!!?? 15 months advance registration, not 12. Grrrr....
Here's a link to an altitude thread from a year ago. I've written some other stuff with more detail about training @ altitude, but I can't find it now. I'll keep looking
IF i do sign up for this, I will for sure be at Aspen from end of August thru mid-Sept/whenever I leave for Tahoe. I can accomodate 6-8 other folks in my house for all or part of that time. (This year, I'l be there July 8-23, and Sept 6-23 doing IM specific training each time; people are welcome those dates as well.)
Lake Tahoe doesnt have any problem with lodging. This ia what they do. It's cheap to get there and easy to stay there. Not necessarily cheap to stay there.
I am in for this race is momma coughs up the $$$$. We are going there in july for my daughters wedding and will definitely ride the course and run on the run course. Report to follow.
I did the camp with Al last year. we were living at about 8000 ft and training at primarily 7000+, probably more specific in Al's link above. It was difficult. I see the bigger issue as not having a reliable method of adjusting your Vdot & FTP #s. That after all is what you need for the execution piece. How you do (if you care) against others will definitely have the unseen sorting of people who live at altitude vs those that don't. I have to think that even people living in Denver at 5200 ft have a huge advantage over us sea level dwellers.
As much as this venue excites me, i think i am taking a pass and sticking with Placid next year!
I am in on this. I spent time hating early in this thread, but the time, location and inaugural thing work for me. I can drive there, which is awesome. Plus, I turn 40 5 days after this race, so why not!?!
Talked it over with my wife, and I decided to pull the trigger Monday on this race next year. Like Dino, I'm @ the top of my AG (64) next year, so what the heck...
Maybe we can get a few folks to grab a house via VRBO or something? And I have yet to decide on my Colorado-based acclimation strategy, but I'm sure sometime begween mid-August and Mid-Sept, I'll throw in a long term stay at 2500 m/8300'. More to follow, probably next year, when I refine my strategy.
Am I reading the charts right, does the bike course have twice as much gain as lake placid.... Gulp, is that right. From the profile it doesn't look that bad but the numbers are pretty big.
From the ironman race site bike profile....looks off to me also, in an article I saw it compares tahoe bike course to Wisconsin and placid in terms of difficulty.
I think i figured it out, that low number Is for one loop of the placid course while the Tahoe bike sheet has the entire 112 miles on it. So placid is around 4800 while Tahoe is 5200....
Dusty, I'm officially blaming you for this...your Facebook post started the conversation witH my wife, which then got her excited for a trip to Cali which now has me trying to get a spot tomorrow,,,,hilarious...
IMO, it's not the heat but the humidity that gets you...or with regards to IM courses, it's how you get the gain vs the gain itself:
IMLP -- yeah, got's gain but it's relatively easy to figure out how to ride the course. That is, you're doing one similar thing (rollers out of town, long downhill, flat, generally uphill rollers toward Wilmington, then a long climb back to town x 2) for a long timer.
IMWI -- constant, constant changes. MUCH more difficult to figure out and therefore much easier to make a lot of small, or big mistakes that add up.
CDA v2.0 -- the hills were sharp, false flats, long...but generally balanced out by the basically 30+ miles of vanilla terrain per loop.
IMHoe -- remains to be seen how the gain is gotten -- long and easy to figure out or short and steep.
Kinda makes me wish I had my road motorcycle + bike rack so I could ride up to CDA this week and recon the IMHoe course on the way up
@Al - Correction. I will be racing as a 40 year old. My age on 12/31/13. That means the bottom of the 40-44 age group, but should mean anything. 35-39 and 40-44 are deep and stacked.
I believe I'm in also. It makes no sense for me in that I'm in San Antonio, near sea level, and training will have to be done in 100 degree weather. But, it really looks like a cool venue, and the wife will support going there. Here we go!
Scott that's great, now I need to go find me a local 7% grade and see what that feels like, and put a bag over my head while doing it....let's see if we get a spot...
Scott - thanks! I'm looking at the profile while waiting for registrartion to open up. This course looks most like Canada, and also like Placid. CertaInly not as tough as Wisconsin or Coeur d'Alene (before this year). Two steady climbs of 1.5 and 3 miles @ 7% coming at miles 37-44 and 83-90 of the race. I can mimic this very easily both here in WA and in CO, including the altitude. Steady climbs are so much easier to manage than the constant up and down of CDA and IMMoo.
As painful as it - i guess i'll pass. 15 months ahead is just too far. This year I signed up for IMC and a serious illness in the family has messed that up - 15 minths is even worse
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Here's a link to an altitude thread from a year ago. I've written some other stuff with more detail about training @ altitude, but I can't find it now. I'll keep looking
IF i do sign up for this, I will for sure be at Aspen from end of August thru mid-Sept/whenever I leave for Tahoe. I can accomodate 6-8 other folks in my house for all or part of that time. (This year, I'l be there July 8-23, and Sept 6-23 doing IM specific training each time; people are welcome those dates as well.)
More altitude training info:
http://members.endurancenation.us/T...fault.aspx
Looks like I never got around to writing the Wiki article as promised.
I am in for this race is momma coughs up the $$$$. We are going there in july for my daughters wedding and will definitely ride the course and run on the run course. Report to follow.
As much as this venue excites me, i think i am taking a pass and sticking with Placid next year!
My thoughts exactly!!! Well, perhaps with a few more profanities thrown in there for good measure.
Talked it over with my wife, and I decided to pull the trigger Monday on this race next year. Like Dino, I'm @ the top of my AG (64) next year, so what the heck...
Maybe we can get a few folks to grab a house via VRBO or something? And I have yet to decide on my Colorado-based acclimation strategy, but I'm sure sometime begween mid-August and Mid-Sept, I'll throw in a long term stay at 2500 m/8300'. More to follow, probably next year, when I refine my strategy.
5240 of gain for Tahoe and 2395 for placid....
Where are you getting that number for Placid? Looks very low to me.
So placid is around 4800 while Tahoe is 5200....
I think that's right...
very cool. Sounds like there is going to be some good EN representation at this race. Hope I can get a spot tomorrow.
IMO, it's not the heat but the humidity that gets you...or with regards to IM courses, it's how you get the gain vs the gain itself:
Kinda makes me wish I had my road motorcycle + bike rack so I could ride up to CDA this week and recon the IMHoe course on the way up
I believe I'm in also. It makes no sense for me in that I'm in San Antonio, near sea level, and training will have to be done in 100 degree weather. But, it really looks like a cool venue, and the wife will support going there. Here we go!
Pretty good climb!
Scott - thanks! I'm looking at the profile while waiting for registrartion to open up. This course looks most like Canada, and also like Placid. CertaInly not as tough as Wisconsin or Coeur d'Alene (before this year). Two steady climbs of 1.5 and 3 miles @ 7% coming at miles 37-44 and 83-90 of the race. I can mimic this very easily both here in WA and in CO, including the altitude. Steady climbs are so much easier to manage than the constant up and down of CDA and IMMoo.