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The "Run What You Brung" Postal Swim Time Trial Thread

Edit: Tracking Spreadsheet Here

Please add your TT stuff and if someone smarter than me wants to take a shot at organizing the spreadsheet better, go for it

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So....

We all know that EN is famous...or infamous...for our guidance to not swim in the OutSeason. Some people get it, some people think we're nuts, and it drives many type-A triathletes and coaches batshit crazy . Time to see where we're at and to set benchmark for improvement!

My Proposal:

We pick a week in March and call it the "Run What You Brung Postal Swim TT Week:" just pick a day to knock out a 1k TT swim and post your results to this thread. Bonus if you do it totally cold, ie, haven't swam a lap since date X. Hop in the water, warm up a bit, GO...what's the worse that could happen?

I'd be curious to hear your observations, such as "my 2010 PR was xx:xx, haven't swam since mm/dd/yy, and I swam yy:yy for the TT." We then schedule similar monthlyorwhatever TT's to track how quickly you get your swim mojo back.

Yes, I know we have tests scheduled in your training plan and we can use those also. But a 1k swim test is such an administratively easy thing for you all to do so not a big deal at all to do an additional one per month, for the team mojo.

What say you? For the record, I have not swum in competition since IMCDA'08. I swam about 4x last spring, nothing since then. I have no idea where my swim suit and goggles are. I plan to dive into the Rose Bowl LCM pool, warm up about 200m and then go...see what happens

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Comments

  • Leading by example...I like it.
  • I'm in coach! Haven't been in the pool since Sept., and my last swim was the ocean swim leg of the Malibu International Tri last Sept. Can't promise I'll be totally 'cold' - since I might need to start swimming soon for Oceanside image
  • Can it be all pull?
  • I'm in...First result could easily be, "didn't make it"...image
    I'm headed to the pool this afternoon for the first time since October as part of my two weeks of transition from OS...as you said, what's the worse that could happen.
  • Posted By Steve West on 25 Feb 2011 11:03 AM

    Can it be all pull?



    Whatever, up to you. Mine will be all pull as that's all I ever do anyway.

  • I'm in. As a beginner swimmer ya have to start somewhere. Enjoying the OS right now as a new member.
  • Great idea.  I'm in.

  • Can't wait, Coach. This will help me get over my new found fear of swimming, after 50+ years of (very) modest success in the water. 15:26 was my last best time; if I get below 18:00, I'll be pleased.

  • Sounds good. I have never done a swim TT.
  • Cool. I'm hoping that local homie and EN member Barry Plaga doesn't see this post. He'll want to do the TT with me and will try to lap me, at least once, in an LCM pool = freaky fast swimmer!

  • I'm in too! I swam 800 m over Christmas and that's it since September. NEVER had this much time off from swimming. Very curious to see what I am capable of now.
  • sounds good.  since IMAZ i have only plopped in the water like three times and only to cool down from running and not more than 25minutes.  this OS is the first time ever i have followed the no swim guidance.  i have always tried to swim in the OS in the past.

    will knock this out on monday, feb 28.

    over and out,

    gh

  • I've been naughty and not followed the non-swim guidance.

    2009: A lot of non-structured swimming, no technique and a lot of combat swimming for work

    2010: Due to work posting me somewhere hot, I swam 3x 30mins leading up to my one sprint tri and did the 400m in 9:57.

    2011: After a year off swimming. Now OS swim plan week 4. Already knocked OVER 2 MINUTES over 400m and 5mins of 1km; which I guess is hearsay that:



    a) you can get away with not swimming in the outseason - I didn't swim for a year

    b) the EN plan is right up there for kicking starting your swim season when you need it and you aren't burnt out from the winter months



    I'm so up for this. Bring it!

  • Swam today before I go ski-camping. Today was my 6th pool session since 1/31/11. Two sessions were lessons.

    WU - 100
    1000yd TT @ 17:10 (8:25, 8:45) ~~ 1:43 All pull

    then another 900 for 2000 total.

    Now I need to finsh packing my backpack for tomorrow. 10" new snow to start the trip.

    See ya'll on thrusday!
  • Sounds fun, I'm in. I haven't even thought of swimming since September.
  • I basically did this last year. I will look up the actual times, but my 'haven't swam 1 stroke in literally 6 months' self swam about 1 minute slower than my PR self from the previous year. Less than a month later, I set a 30 second PR, after focused technique work and some fitness sets.

    I'm definitely in for this year.
  • count me in. Just starting to swim again as I enter my 12 week IM plan for IM Texas
  • I am in! Let's do it together Tom?
  •  Only if you let me win image

  • Very curious to see how I do, count me in. I Haven't done any structured (volume) swimming since Aug/Sept 2010. I have done a some focused stroke work in an endless pool once a week for the last month or so...should be interesting.
  • Great idea....IN!
  • I'll give it a shot. I also have to find the suit and goggles :-)
  • I am so in. Have swum 4 times in last two weeks, first times in the pool since July of 2009. One good tweak yesterday and I was swimming 100s on 1:25 (plus 10" rest), pulling them on 1:20. I am going to crash my bike again in 2012 so I can win my AG. Don't give away our secret!!!!
  • Posted By Patrick McCrann on 26 Feb 2011 12:07 PM

    ...I am going to crash my bike again in 2012 so I can win my AG. Don't give away our secret!!!!



    I know you're joking but don't even SAY that!

    (Although that is my secret plan for this year.)

  • Tracking spreadsheet added to first post. Please record your TT's there.
  • Done.  Thanks for organizing this Rich.

    I'd love to swim some outdoor LCM.  Maybe email your local list when you're going over?

  • It will be at the Rose Bowl during a weekday lunch. Not going to clutter up my weekend with this. Also, just cuz I'm doing a TT in March doesn't mean I'm going to start swimming regularly or anything . I'm giving myself 16wks to train for IMWI = it's on beginning May 23rd. Before that I'm kinda making it up as I go, mixing some OS runs with my normal rides, but beginning May 23rd I actually going to follow an actual EN training plan

  • Coach Rich is going to follow a training plan?

    'Dogs and cats, living together, total anarchy!'
  • Posted By Mike Graffeo on 26 Feb 2011 03:01 PM

    Coach Rich is going to follow a training plan?



    'Dogs and cats, living together, total anarchy!'

     

    ...which is to say, I'll do the interval runs, Big Days and RR's as prescribed:

    • Homie don't do formal interval training on the bike. Sorry, I burnt myself to a crisp with stuff back in the day. Now I climb my local hill as repeats and will throw in 2.5 on/off on the third repeat.
    • Same for intervals on the long bike. Can't do it. Instead, I can leave my house and TT straight up a mountain for 2:10, straight. I can add 90' of flat at tempo on the front of that and staple myself to the aerobars for the climb.
    • Long run...we'll have to see. Thinking of using my TT hill, as that would be 6mi up and 6mi down. Do do better by building durability through speedwork, downhill running and frequency vs long run volume. Ankle and feet are my limiters.
    • Gonna draft Barry Plaga into rebuilding a < 53' swim for me.

    Anyway...that's all OT. Let's talk swim TT!

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