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What it takes.....May 2010

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  • Two things y'all need to know abt me... I loathe being cold and I downright HATE being wet! Felt, looked & smelled like rain Sat so I grabbed on that wheel and rode like bat outta hell to get finished before the rain (which we thought would start around 1-2pm). Guess that also explains why I'm not that fond of swimming eh???

    @Gina- I also did recovery swim yesterday & felt mucho better afterward. I did also send a note over to the 3S3M folks to tell them what a wonderful job they did with that ride. SAG stops were great, volunteers were so friendly and right on top of everything- bustling about and seemed to know just what you needed. Great police support coming back into town and hey.. free Krystal burgers, fries and drinks at the end were freakin yummy!! Trust me- you'll have plenty of time to get sick of me riding to WI! :-)

    Olivia, Carrie, Sheryl... GREAT work! I can't say enough about my admiration of ANYONE that could even survive that swim and know what each of you took going into that day just made that finish even sweeter! Hope we can pick up that banner and wave it high! You've set an incredible bar for us!

    Do we have any gals doing IMCDA? Or do I have to wait for Placid??
  • Tracy--are you kidding???!!!! Let's plan on a Sat ride!!!! Michele likely too. Keith can navigate. It's a plan! More latha, chica!

    OMG, re St. George. Never will I do that is for schizzle. I know my limits and 1.) that is beyond me and 2.) call me soft, but I won't risk life and limb to do these things. Making people swim in 54 degree water for 2.4 miles is criminal. I jeep asking msyelf after this weekend, when is it all too hard? Too much to ask of people? I think this race came close IMO. Plus, it's impossible for me to train for a May IM up here anyway, which saddens me b/c I've always wanted to to Brazil. Maybe when I retire to SoCal.

  • Good morning ladies!!! I was AIP @ 5:30 this morning. Finally! That gives me just enough time to do the swim workout and the run intervals before hitting my desk. WHen those swims get longer I'll have a harder time, but it will also be warmer so maybe I'll make Monday my "ocean swim" day and do it after work. Just gotta watch the sharks :-)



    Anyway- I thought of all of you on my run today. The gals doing IMSG this weekend (OMG, I'm still in awe of anyone being brave enough to get in that water), the ladies who got to hook up together to ride this weekend (sooo jealous, but then I remembered all the times I've had a chance to meet some of you and that made me feel blessed), and finally all my IMoo Chicas. I just can't wait to see you all at Moo Camp!



    Susanne & Robin, this brings me to you. I was starting to feel disapointed with myself because my pace right now is just soooo slow. This new form I'm focusing on is keeping my calf healthy, but I'm just not my former speedy self (not that I was ever really speedy, but you know what I mean). Anyway, just as I was about to have a little pitty party I thought about Robin not being able to run or bike at all right now. And I remembered how frustrated I felt when I was in that position earlier this year. And then I thought about Susanne's cousin-in-law and her message to us over the weekend. All of that made me soooooooo greatful for every footstep I made- no matter how fast or slow! And all of that reminded me that the most important thing I can do for myself right now is to just stay healthy so I can keep doing what makes me happy and so I can toe the line with so many of you in September.



    So on that note- I think it's going to be a beautiful week! Enjoy!

  • AIP at 5:30, nice job Nemo!

    Kitima - have to own up to it... I blew it this morning... had everything laid out... but I had a heck of a time falling asleep... and when the alarm went off I heard the rain and the wind... no way, not even to go to the gym to do dreadmill time.  I actually didn't go to work - 2 nights in a row of bad sleep (and I've been tired)... I am about to head out to run now and will swim when Dan gets off work... hopefully we can get there to either finish before the water aerobics class or at least get an outside lane so we'll be safe.  Tomorrow is just a swim day so I'm not sure - I may wait til after PT (but I WILL get up at 5 tomorrow to get work early to bank credit hours bc I have to leave early).  And Wed I MUST get up do do the 90 min brick before work bc I'm heading out to a work function with Dan after work...

    On a happy note, down to 134.4 today... getting there... the slow creep down is still going... Still 4-6 from "normal" but I'm noticing my pants fitting better (still not quite fitting, but they don't cut off circulation anymore...) and the muffin top is almost gone.    Work works... and so does paying attention to nutrition!  but, I won't be giving up my vino.... that's against my religion.

  • Posted By Becky Hirselj on 03 May 2010 11:31 AM

    AIP at 5:30, nice job Nemo!

    Kitima - have to own up to it... I blew it this morning... had everything laid out... but I had a heck of a time falling asleep... and when the alarm went off I heard the rain and the wind... no way, not even to go to the gym to do dreadmill time.  I actually didn't go to work - 2 nights in a row of bad sleep (and I've been tired)... I am about to head out to run now and will swim when Dan gets off work... hopefully we can get there to either finish before the water aerobics class or at least get an outside lane so we'll be safe.  Tomorrow is just a swim day so I'm not sure - I may wait til after PT (but I WILL get up at 5 tomorrow to get work early to bank credit hours bc I have to leave early).  And Wed I MUST get up do do the 90 min brick before work bc I'm heading out to a work function with Dan after work...

    On a happy note, down to 134.4 today... getting there... the slow creep down is still going... Still 4-6 from "normal" but I'm noticing my pants fitting better (still not quite fitting, but they don't cut off circulation anymore...) and the muffin top is almost gone.    Work works... and so does paying attention to nutrition!  but, I won't be giving up my vino.... that's against my religion.

    Don't sweat it! I think it takes 3-4 days to finally adjust to a new schedule---3-4 pretty painful mornings! Today's a rest day for me, but I still got up early.  Ate breakfast, checked email, then went back to bed for a mid-morning nap---yeah, I live the life of a kept woman. Ha! I'll go to the 4pm yoga class this afternoon.

    I just got an Ipod Touch (wanted the Iphone features, but just not the phone part) and have been using a food diary app called Lose It. It's really keeping me honest with the food intake. The biggest revelation so far: I drink ALOT of fruit juice Calories. As I don't drink coffee, soda, or eat pastries/cookies/cake---tangerine juice is my treat. It's one Calorie dense treat!



     

  • Becky - I have come to view water aerobics as the enemy. Why does the gym always schedule them at 6:30 or other equally inconvenient for my swimming times?

    Linda - IM Brazil. Sabbatical to South America to train? We'd all be so happy hanging out in South America in February.

    Nemo -- EN -- and Ironman training -- is hard to explain to outsiders. This place really has become a huge part of my culture. Explaining this place to outsiders may be like explaining to outsiders what it is like to be a Maori tribe. We have a lot of details, ritual, vocabulary here that we don't share with the rest of the world.  I'm so glad I have all of you!  I like my friends who think it is their job to take me out to fattening brunch, but who is going to cheer loudly when I finally learn to pee on the bike?

    Fighting -- I like to think that fitness is in the legs, but the head is so crucial. I am finally, (finally!) getting my legs back after stupid break-up that happened in January. I wish I were 'pro enough to channel anger into my racing, but I can't seem to do that very well. Sigh.

    I love all the chica meet-ups happening! Such good energy!

     

  • I was just outside, grillling fish for dinner while in my swimsuit doing leg lifts and crunches on my mat.. multitasking and listening to IPOD music while looking up into the blue sky seeing birds and white pollen bits floating about while eating a popsicle... when son yells at me "MOM, the census guy is here!" "of course he is" and well, shoot.. no cover up! he yells at me... a joke.. cuz this is what I tell him.. 'get serious Mom and stop messing about!" I creep in my house and pull out of the dryer something.. and some shorts to....and for our family it takes two forms to fill out! thought we had mailed that...

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    do we have chat room tonight or is Coach Rich traveling back.. finally remembered.
  • Posted By Marianne Park on 03 May 2010 04:31 PM



    do we have chat room tonight or is Coach Rich traveling back.. finally remembered.



    I dunno- I finally remembered too!

  • Monday Office Hours: Coach Rich will be "in" on Monday 5/3 at 8pm EST for some online fun.
  • Ladies- we had sooooo much fun on the chat last night! I was laughing the whole time! Rich didn't show up (we think Marianne and I scared him off). Patrick joined around 8:30 and we helped Al come up with a plan to address some trouble he's having on the bike. We got to hear from Beth about her FTP test too! Kitboo was there for a bit and so was Linda. It was a hoot!!! Gotta do that again!

  • Posted By Nemo Brauch on 04 May 2010 07:25 AM

    Ladies- we had sooooo much fun on the chat last night! I was laughing the whole time! Rich didn't show up (we think Marianne and I scared him off). Patrick joined around 8:30 and we helped Al come up with a plan to address some trouble he's having on the bike. We got to hear from Beth about her FTP test too! Kitboo was there for a bit and so was Linda. It was a hoot!!! Gotta do that again!



    So, how do I  join in??

     

  • At the designated time, you go up to the "Resources" Tab and select "Chat". It's that simple!
  • Oh good gawd, chicas, I had my resting metabolic rate (RMR) tested this morning. You know how frustrated I have been for so long about getting back to my good racing weight that I had held for many years. Now add the hypothyroid into the mix, and I was totally confused about how the heck to approach my calorie intake. I figured if I got my real RMR, it would help. Nutritionists I've talked to, and calculators et al, estimate my RMR, given my age etc., at ~1300 calories/day. Know what it really is? Drummmmrollllll....1080!!! OMG, that's NOTHING! The plan is this...



    Get my calories up in the range of 1800/day given my activity level. Keeping them too low, as I was a while ago, just slowed my metabolism down even more. 1400-1500/day is not sustainable (and it wasn't), so when you go back to eating more reasonably (not even overeating) the weight packs on because your metabolism has dropped to support that low level--like what happens to crash dieters. Three nutritionists (including Penny) have now told me to get the calories up to 1800, which I have done. I may gain a little more weight at first as my body readjusts (which has happened--another 1.5 lbs). BUT eventually, I will begin to slowly chip away at the pounds. The operative word here is SLOWLY. Grrrrreat.



    The good news is that if I continue to watch it, I will likely stay where I am, which is far from overweight. I can live with that, and with any luck I really will begin to slowly get back to race weight. I'm glad I did this. I see that I have to track my intake, minimize wasted calories, and concentrate on true nutrition--which, if you think about it, is a silver lining. Ever onward, right? It's all we can do.

     

  • 1080?! That is super-low! Linda, have you read Racing Weight? If not, it may be a timely read for you. I just picked it up yesterday and learned 8 hours of desk work burns about 850 calories. I may have been underestimating calories on this alone.

    Chatting was awesome. It was laughing in my kitchen with all of you while stretching my calves and eating about a pound of tomatoes. Can we use the chat room all the time? We could schedule a chica chat sometime, if extra mojo is needed.

    I'm still glowing from my FTP gain. My inner cyclist is still bouncing up and down, saying "new ftp! new ftp!".

     

     

  • The chat was so much fun! yes let's do it again!! husband was outta town so I could sit in and "chat".....and actually remembered. no kidding, we were all cutting up in there!

    okay so my 2nd son is about to graduate and I was just hit with emotion as I recalled the last 18 years, the highs and the lows and well got all teary eyed thinking of him now leaving! I know Linda can relate! the first day of school, like kindergarten about tears you up.. and then when you finally say goodbye in dorm room. He will go to college at Lipscomb, in Nashville, 7 hours away! my other son is just 3 hours away. so y'all keep your ears open to multi sport events in nashville come this Fall..... he actually will leave this summer to go back to Guatemala and stay with the missionary we met and help out www.gregmillerministries.com with other teams coming. This is the charity I am raising $ for Janus Charity Challenge. anyways. by June he will be gone. and life will be a little duller. I will only have 3 at home. I know normal for most families, but really you can tell when one of em is gone. not the same. on that note and to shake off these blues, going swimming today for first time since Feb??? maybe one 15' time in March. please note this is normal for me, I get blue the first 2 weeks they go back to school as well. and when David graduated I think I was sad that whole summer! ha. I don't hover or overprotect but just miss them.

    1800 calories???? oh my. I know I overeat then! scooting. m
  • @Beth--Picking up the book today! Re the 850 at your desk--is that an estimate? Maybe for a 150/lb male? (That's what a lot of these estimates are based on.) If your RMR is low or high, it effects how many calories one is burning doing ANY activity. 850 at a desk for Mancona,  might be 350 for me as I understand it? It's all confusing, but that book sounds like a good one for me. 

    Re chat, etc--would the chicas be interested in a bi-weekly/monthly conference all? We can do it on a free site--supe easy. I love the chat, but the time spent typing bums me out. Nemp and I talked about this a while ago, and Gina and I have actually been talking on the phonea bit more. Saves a lot of time, covers a lot of ground. image What do you think?

  • Vote- YES for me. This non textie would love a call. Sorry longer nails + Iphones = crappy at texting. Not saying I won't.... just hard to hit those darned lil keys & I have small fingers!

    I'd love a call right now cause totally into the nutrition thing at present. I'm not too hyped on Matt Fitzgerald. Really like alot of the stuff I've read fro Bob Seebohar. I have a book called Periodized Nutrition that is really good. Working on the cliff notes for it now to pass along. Guess I better hop on that!
  • I love the idea of a Chica Chat/Conf Call!! We just gotta pick a day/time that works (always hard!). With many of us now in either HIM or IM training mode perhaps our schedules are somewhat more similar. Wed night for example might be tough 'cause we're all trying to prep for that Thurs long run in the early morning. I hate to put it on the weekend- we already take so much time from our families on Sat/Sun for Tri stuff. Monday is already taken by the coaches and I'd hate to have to choose between then if I had a Q for the coaches. Maybe Tuesday or Thursday night?
  • Are the coach's chats every week? If not, we could do the off weeks. Thing is, I think we just pick a day, and who can make it, makes it. How about Sunday nights? That's often easy? 

  • Chat room was alot of fun last night! I'm in for an EN Chica chat--any night is fine for me.

    Linda: 1080?! That's IT?! Did the person who did the test seem surprised at this result? That seems really low---like a 98 year old who just eats tea and toast all day. So at rest (like if you just laid around all day and did nothing) you would burn 1080 Cal, right? Obviously, you'll be burning more than that with the training, running around with Cali, work. I'm glad you're working with Penny on this one. Maybe it's low from the hypothyroid...Just thinking out loud.

  • the chat would be fun! image can we do it a little later though? on a good night I don't walk through my door till 8 pm so maybe 8:30ish.

  • Posted By Kitima Boonvisudhi on 04 May 2010 10:47 AM



    Linda: 1080?! That's IT?! Did the person who did the test seem surprised at this result? That seems really low---like a 98 year old who just eats tea and toast all day. So at rest (like if you just laid around all day and did nothing) you would burn 1080 Cal, right? Obviously, you'll be burning more than that with the training, running around with Cali, work. I'm glad you're working with Penny on this one. Maybe it's low from the hypothyroid...Just thinking out loud.



     

    She was super surpised, especially looking at me. She said I was the 2nd lowest she has ever seen in all th tests she's done. The lowest was 880. So, yes, if I laid in bed all day, I would burn 1080--that's it. Can you believe it? For sure, I have to add all the activity in, but it's still telling me my body is SLOW. This has effected every system. I wonder if it's partially why my FT is down and my running is so slow? No idea, but it seems connected, no?

    She also said I should come back in a few months to check as the meds get regulated, and the training picks up. I think I will.

  • WOW- 1080? That's just crazy! And "dieting" is only making that worse. One of these days maybe I'll check mine out. For now, things are finally moving in the "right" direction again (running- I know that's my key).

    I'm good with 8:30, but not much later. Gotta have that HOP (Head on Pillow) by 9:30 or I won't get my AIP in time the next day! (Gina- I also Love Love Love just getting it done in the AM and not having it hang over my head. Something so mentally healthy about that for me).
  • Love the idea of chat. freeconferencecall.com could also be nice because we could hear voices! Sunday/Thursday/Tuesday all sound good.

    Linda -- Estimate is based on a 131 lb female - so, me. I wonder if I get extra points for all the boxes of publications I schlep upstairs to the reception desk.

  • I vote yes for a call... it would be so nice to put voices with pics/names... I'm even more excited to meet a few of you at Eagleman and a few more in FL!  I can't say I'd always make it, but if it's once a month I would definitely make a huge effort!

    @Linda - 1080?  that's nuts.  I'm not one to count calories... I try to be conscious of what I eat (it's really the wine that gets me)... so having my number would drive me batty.  More batty about my weight than I already am.  I still have 5ish to go from my normal weight and that's my goal for my first race... hopefully I can drop 10 by the time IMFL rolls around.  Still doing well with salads + protein for lunch... and now that farmers' markets are opening and it's getting nice out I'm very happy about fresh produce!  It's easier to eat well in the spring and summer with such wonderful produce around!

    @Gina - per FB, let's call it a date.  I plan to be AIS at 5 - and, if all goes well, AOT by 6:10!  I WILL do this damn brick before work!  I WILL stick to the week's schedule this week... so far so good (granted, it's only Ts), I'll swim tonight... not sure if I'll ever swim before work... the pool does open at 5, though - which is when I'd have to be in the water to get through these crazy 3000+m workouts!

  • Posted By Kris Frazier on 04 May 2010 10:07 AM

    Vote- YES for me. This non textie would love a call. Sorry longer nails + Iphones = crappy at texting. Not saying I won't.... just hard to hit those darned lil keys & I have small fingers!



    What Linda Patch has going with the always perfect lipstick, Kris has going with the PERFECT nails

     

  • Posted By Gina Hamel on 04 May 2010 12:58 PM
    Posted By Kris Frazier on 04 May 2010 10:07 AM

    Vote- YES for me. This non textie would love a call. Sorry longer nails + Iphones = crappy at texting. Not saying I won't.... just hard to hit those darned lil keys & I have small fingers!



    What Linda Patch has going with the always perfect lipstick, Kris has going with the PERFECT nails

     



      My own lil secret swim paddles..... he he he      Oh yah!

     

    I'm in for Sun evening - after 8 would be super

  • Perfect nails, that reminds me- Marianne, I was in awe of your manicure watching you open the envelope with Moo-Jo inside. When do you girls get the time?
  • I'm excited about the call! Just not too late, please.

    It's my day off, sunny, and about 90 degrees. Must get AOC (off computer) and IP!
  • Posted By Gina Hamel on 04 May 2010 12:58 PM
    Posted By Kris Frazier on 04 May 2010 10:07 AM

    Vote- YES for me. This non textie would love a call. Sorry longer nails + Iphones = crappy at texting. Not saying I won't.... just hard to hit those darned lil keys & I have small fingers!



    What Linda Patch has going with the always perfect lipstick, Kris has going with the PERFECT nails

     

     

    HA! You know it with the lipstick!

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