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Official Fix Da Plans Thread

Folks -

Between the PDFs, RnP, East and West and now 2.0 Beta, some of the plans have mistakes in them.   We're bummed and fired up to fix them; we are hoping you can help. We have an internal list of some changes to make, but as you see issues or problems with your plan, please post them here.

  1. When you find a workout that's wrong, please note the Activity ID, it's in the upper right hand corner of the box. You can post that ID here and tell us what's wrong and we can fix it.

     
  2. Alternatively you can list the Plan Name, Week Number, and Day:   Half Ironman, Intermediate week 8, Monday, etc., but #1 option is better if you can.

Big props to all who help out...thanks in advance!

Patrick

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  • Not sure if I'm reading it wrong, or if this is an error. OS Plan, Advanced Week 2, Tuesday Run.



    Run - 15



    MS:25' @ z1/LRP + 3 x 30 Strides



    Shouldn't the title of the workout say "Run - 25"?



    Similar thing on Week 3 & 4 runs



    thanks!

  • Posted By Mike Norman on 26 Feb 2010 07:11 PM

    Not sure if I'm reading it wrong, or if this is an error. OS Plan, Advanced Week 2, Tuesday Run.



    Run - 15



    MS:25' @ z1/LRP + 3 x 30 Strides



    Shouldn't the title of the workout say "Run - 25"?



    Similar thing on Week 3 & 4 runs



    thanks!

     

     

    Got'em! Thanks man...

  • OS Week 11 INT Tuesday Brick Calendar view says 'Run 10' - actual Activity Description is "MS: 20' @ z1/LRP + 5 x 30 Strides" So I'm guessing this should say 'Run 20' - it's Activity #713

     

  • I am not in 2.0, but in 1.0 OS week 17 intermediate, w/o #2 says Run :30 and the actual w/o is 20'.

  • This is weird-
    Last night I switched into 2.0. All looked good. OS Intermediate Week 8.
    Today (Sunday 2/28), my dashboard says I have no workout. But of course if I actually look at week 8, I have a run scheduled.
    But the dashboard also says to go to "Training Plan Central", but I am moved over to 2.0.
    Seems there is still a disconnect going on.
  • @Michele - Hi - the dashboard has at different 'training day' area for the 2.0 plans as well. During this transition it is temporarily placed just below EN Updates. It will be moved to the same area as the old one as soon as we get everyone switched over. Something really nice about the new 2.0 daily note is that it has the 'work' of your workout listed right away. Let me know if you still have trouble.
  • Ah- now I see what you are referring to. Thank you.
  • The HIM Advanced swim plans generally appear to be written for an IM. My RR's show 3.8 km swim .
  • Half IM plan, intermediate, week 7, shows no workouts for either Saturday or Sunday. I'm pretty sure that's not right!
  • Thanks folks, we have noted all of the above!
  •  RnP,

     

    The intermediate 12 and 20 week IM plan have no rides longer than 3 hours for the last 6 weeks or so.  

    RR are listed as 180 minutes, etc.

    As much I wish I could to cut and past every Saturday and Sunday (for the better of the entire plan) activity numbers I think you guys have loaded HIM workouts into the intermediate plan.  

    Just for fun I loaded up beginner IM plan and it looks like most of the Saturday rides are correct and listed as 240 minutes or 6 hours for RR rides.

    Tom

  • Hello RnP,

    I switched over to 2.0 beta and i am a part of the jan OS group, advanced level.  i printed my old plan as suggested before switching.

    now, that i review the 2.0 plan, i am in week 5 of 4?  i should be in week 9 of the OS.  also, the week plan is completely different in old version vs. the 2.0 version.

    for now, i'll stick to the old plan. 

    Thanks for your time and hope all is well.

    Sincerely,

    Gilberto

     

     

  • @Gileberto - please change your plan by clicking the 'change plan' link. It looks like you may have set yourself up for [TP2.0]2010 General Prep Block 1 - Advanced rather than the outseason.
  • IM Plan, Beginner, Week 3 has the "Big Day" on Saturday and nothing for Sunday. Seems reasonable except that the Monday of Week 4 is also a Day Off. Do we really get 2 days of in a row?
  • In Training Plan 2.0 can we get the whole week to show without having to actually click on say week "18" to get the calendar to fill.  Also, how long before the have a formatted print come out for the weeks workouts.  I do like the pdf's but if you're going to move away from that then a nice formatted printout would be nice.

  • Posted By Gilberto Hernandez on 01 Mar 2010 07:35 PM

    Hello RnP,

    I switched over to 2.0 beta and i am a part of the jan OS group, advanced level.  i printed my old plan as suggested before switching.

    now, that i review the 2.0 plan, i am in week 5 of 4?  i should be in week 9 of the OS.  also, the week plan is completely different in old version vs. the 2.0 version.

    for now, i'll stick to the old plan. 

    Thanks for your time and hope all is well.

    Sincerely,

    Gilberto

     

     



    G -

     

    You can control what week your plan ends, which sets the week you are on. Also, make sure  you are still using an outseason plan...they should look the same for sure!

    Patrick

  • Posted By Wayne Young on 03 Mar 2010 04:19 PM

    In Training Plan 2.0 can we get the whole week to show without having to actually click on say week "18" to get the calendar to fill.  Also, how long before the have a formatted print come out for the weeks workouts.  I do like the pdf's but if you're going to move away from that then a nice formatted printout would be nice.

     

    Wayne -

     

    I think we are working on the autoload this weekend...sorry for that delay. As for viewing the full week of workouts, you can get that below the weekly calendar...it's an easy to print sheet (to be cleaned up eventually). See the bottom of this image...

  • Advanced Outseason - Week 5, Tuesday. Looks like it should say "Run -30" (see below for what it currently says):

    Run-15 Activity #856

    Activity Description
    MS: 30' @ z1/LRP + 5 x uphill 30 Strides.
  • Hi guys,

    I'm ok with doing a little extra (I think all triathletes tend to overdo things anyway, by nature), but it seems like there's some basic math problems with a lot of the bike sessions when you compare the "title" of the workout (i.e. Bike 75) with the total time needed to actually complete the workout. For example, take a look at the Advanced OS, Week 5 Saturday bike workout:

    Bike-75 Activity #860
    Activity Description
    MS: 2 x 10' (4') @ 95-100%/Z4-5. Then 1 x 5' (5') at z5. Then 2 x 15' (2') @ 85%/Z.

    When you add up the time needed to complete this, I come up with 70 minutes, which gives me only 5 minutes for warmup and no cooldown time at all. Should I assume that the "Bike-75" doesn't include warmup/cooldown time? I apologize if this was covered somewhere else...

    Thanks!
  • I come up with 70 minutes, which gives me only 5 minutes for warmup and no cooldown time at all. Should I assume that the "Bike-75" doesn't include warmup/cooldown time?

    I'm not in the forums too much but heard them say it a few times over the years. The OS workouts are just focused on the main set. You make the call about how much of a warm-up and cool down based on how much time you have.

  • A couple things on the intermediate OS in 2.0. I'm not sure if it will transfer to Race Prep.
    1. You can only view the current week. I'm in week 18 and can only view week 18. I often look at two or three weeks ahead and even behind to make determinations about adjusting my schedule. I also like to plug the workouts into my calendar every month or so and watch all the videos at one time. I'm also going to repeat the last four weeks of the OS as General Prep. That means manipulating the end dates to get the current week to fall on week 17 for example. (Or I could just print them out while I'm actually in the last four weeks.)

    2. There are multiple links to the same movies and mp3's. However the mp3's are dated (2009) - this happened in the old system as well. So, you'd see two "Season Planning" movies and two audio files (one dated 2009) along with the one workout page.

    3. The quick view of the PDF does not appear in 2.0. You just get an empty frame. From the screen grab to Wayne in the post above, I'm assuming the workouts will look different moving forward. Either way, they aren't input into the OS but assuming you aren't working backward, you can ignore this comment.

    Aside from this, I can't tell much of a difference from my end.
  • [TP2.0] 2010 Half Ironman, Intermediate, 12 Weeks.  - Week 7

    There are no weekend workouts for this week.

    Thanks

    Bart

  • Ok Advanced 12 week plan --ok first two weeks but no Sunday on week 3  and no time down for bike on week 4 Sunday

     

    Cheers

     

    Eric Blakie

  • OS Intermediate Level, 20 Weeks

    Activity #739 says:

    Run-15

    30' easy jog @ z1/LRP to stay loose

  • Posted By Mike Norman on 07 Mar 2010 07:56 AM

    Hi guys,



    I'm ok with doing a little extra (I think all triathletes tend to overdo things anyway, by nature), but it seems like there's some basic math problems with a lot of the bike sessions when you compare the "title" of the workout (i.e. Bike 75) with the total time needed to actually complete the workout. For example, take a look at the Advanced OS, Week 5 Saturday bike workout:



    Bike-75 Activity #860

    Activity Description

    MS: 2 x 10' (4') @ 95-100%/Z4-5. Then 1 x 5' (5') at z5. Then 2 x 15' (2') @ 85%/Z.



    When you add up the time needed to complete this, I come up with 70 minutes, which gives me only 5 minutes for warmup and no cooldown time at all. Should I assume that the "Bike-75" doesn't include warmup/cooldown time? I apologize if this was covered somewhere else...



    Thanks!



    MN -

    As greg noted, we don't count your WU/WD in the OS. Some folks warm up 5', some do 30'...no way we could get that right. BEST idea is to read the workouts before you are already on the trainer, etc. image

    P

  • okay, keep'em coming. Got most of these...

    GC, for you the preview of PDF is going to DIE, it will be a new view shortly. (See below that weekly view in the screengrab above). The multiple podcasts are right, some are from last year some are this year....we included both.

    P
  • Patrick,

    Will the "non preview" PDFs remain?
  • OS Intermediate Level, 20 Wks
    Activity #734

    MS: 2 x 1/2 mile (4'), 2 x 1 mile (6') all @ 5k Test pace (6')

    - "@ 5k Test Pace" seems inconsistent. Our paces usually follow the Data Tool, i.e. EP, MP, HMP, TP, IP
    - and the extra rest interval at the end
  • Posted By Geoff Palmer on 10 Mar 2010 01:10 PM

    OS Intermediate Level, 20 Wks

    Activity #734



    MS: 2 x 1/2 mile (4'), 2 x 1 mile (6') all @ 5k Test pace (6')



    - "@ 5k Test Pace" seems inconsistent. Our paces usually follow the Data Tool, i.e. EP, MP, HMP, TP, IP

    - and the extra rest interval at the end



    The PDF says the same thing - I do not think this is a mistake.

  • Ok, took a look and didn't see this one yet

    Week# 11 - [TP2.0] 2010 Half Ironman, Intermediate, 20 Weeks

    Friday has a coach note for a race sim but no actual workout for the day. The next two may not be actual problems, just things that caught my eye, in the same week there is a 30 minute run followed by a 105 minute run on Wednesday, then on Sunday there is only a 60 minute run. The Sunday run doesn't seem unreasonable, just different than the Sat/Sun back 2 back rides that are in almost every other week.
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