@Chris....I just wanted to check my position to make sure no adjustments need to be made during the winter. I was wondering IF I moved my saddle forward 1-2 cm (which I have room to do) WOULD I be more powerful? (this puts my saddle tip FORWARD to the bottom bracket.)
I was thinking my seat was too high, but dynamically when looking at a video I tend to ankle down at the bottom better than the pic shows so I thinking saddle height is OK.
am not sure about moving forward....seems like you have a pretty long torso and it's pretty "bunched up" already as I look at the picture. I'd want your shoulders over your aero pads and you looking a lot more comfortable out there....seems pretty strained....video might help.
I think it looks good. When you scooted forward your shoulders almost went past your elbows. I also watched the other one and you have those aero bars nice and low. It looks like you've got two inches of steerer tube sticking up. What kind of saddle is that? It looks like it's as high as it needs to go.
Yes they do. My girlfriend and I recently did a pre-buy bike fit with Todd at ttbikefit in person . My girlfriend and I spent 4-5 hours in his shop, on his machine, going over choices, and questions , then I cam home to a full summary email report, and currently we are up to 21 emails of questions and answers. He has been unbelievably thorough , patient, quick to respond and very knowledgable. I want to buy a bike from him and am pretty close to pulling the trigger on a Blue or 2 LOL. If I buy through him the fit is included and if I dont I will bring my new bike down and pay for a fit!
@Joseph Yes! He is totally worth it. He fit me on my prior road and TT bke in 2009 then helped me buy the proper frame/stem, etc when I purchased a new bike last year. He keeps working with you until you are satisfied and goes way beyond the expected level of service.
Ok...speaking of Bike Fit...and Bike Fitting....does anyone else have the problem of their knees smashing into their aerobars?
Is this common/uncommon/crazy? and any suggestions...try t move them forward? I don't think I want to move seat back...but may want to be raising it a bit...
Are your knees hitting the aerobars while seated (not common) or when you're standing up like you're pedaling uphill (more common)? See Michael's second pic above... that's about as close as you want your knees to the bars when seated.
If your knees are hitting the bars when seated/aero, you could try a longer stem to move it away from you some more. Of course, that changes other things about your fit though.
Not so much standing...as I try like heck to stay seated ....Mostly it occurs when I shift way forward on my seat and "jump on it"...not when simply spinning/riding in aero....but I do that often enough that it makes me think something about my setup could be improved...I'm pretty sure I will be taking myself and my bike to TT Tribike fit sometime around the time the weather improves enough to be outdoors regularly.
....does anyone else have the problem of their knees smashing into their aerobars?
Is this common/uncommon/crazy? ...
Not supposed to happen. Either you're in the wrong sport (i.e., you have the build of an NBA small forward - long femurs relative to trunk length), or you and your bike are mismatched. Get fit by TT or other expert as you plan. Meanwhile, stay off the rivet!
I recently had a Retuel fit done and it was really nice up front but am having some issues since. I find that my power has dropped off pretty big and my quads and glutes are sore after all my rides. I am wondering if this is normal after bike fits? I was told by the guy who did the bike fit that since my seat was so low all my power last summer was coming from my calves. Any help would be appreciated, thanks....
@ Brett - There's definitely a breaking in period with a new fit. Stay with it and it will come along.
@ Kim - Your seat is too low and your bars are too high. I'd raise the seat an a couple of centimeters (maybe even an inch). Can you drop the bars? I know aerobars on a road bike presents its own set of difficulties. Is the bike a bit too small for you. The frame seems tiny but that just might be my ignorance as to women's road bikes.
@Brett, what Bob said. And one thing to remember is that Retul is essentially a motion capture/recording program. It doesn't do the fitting. The fitter does. So it is possible you received a bad fit, but you won't know for a little bit. Hope it comes around for you.
HI, just looking for opinions on current bike position. First time I have had a specific tri bike rather than converted road bike. I think I am forward enough, but that's in an impression. SO far getting confortable, need to convert over to new pedals and Lake tri shoes. Debating as to if I can go lower, or wait until I drop more weight (remove that pesky obstruction). So far not cramping up my breathing
Posted By David McLaughlin on 09 Mar 2012 08:13 AM
Hey Mike you may want to repost this with your own Subject as a new post here in this forum . It may give you more feedback vs. hopping onto Matt's blog here.
A better picture with your helmet on is something we need to see. I'm sure your not racing in that hat. I agree with removing that " pesky obstruction " your thighs are beating the crap out of your stomach.
Did you set this position up yourself or have someone fit you ? If you were fitted I'm sure that fit was based on how THIS/THAT feels at the time. Sure you can stretch out some / go lower add wheels get the aero helmet etc, ect.. but the most important thing to start with is like you said " pesky obstruction " needs to go ! Read above Matt lost 67 lbs. In his aero picture posted above his thighs are hitting an empty shirt with no belly.
Thanks David, I am thinking that I could drop a little more when I drop another 15-20 lbs. Currently ok comfort wise. This is a self fit, debating on getting one done. I have a set of trispokes, and a rear disk, along with a Rudy aero helmet. WIll be switching up thewheels soon.
you're headed in the right direction, definitely room to improve. As you feel more comfortable, you want to work towards further forward and lower. For a good example, scroll to the first page of this thread, and take a look at Matt Ancona's fit (about halfway down).
Your seat may be a bit too high, as it looks like you might be locking out your knee at the bottom of the pedal stroke. Hard to get good strong engagement of the glutes and hamstrings when you're too high up.
Mike J., I agree with Mike G. in that your seat might be a smidge high. Ideally you could also drop some height from the front end but that's only if you're comfortable. I'd also suggest sliding forward a bit more on the saddle.
Yeah, funny on the dogs. We have two weims, that usually come down and lay there watching my spin. Not sure what it does for them
Checked the website the seat angle is unkown, I have the seat post in the foward mount, rails little past half way. Seat nose is about 1/2" back from center of bottom bracket.
Thanks for the inputs. I changed out my pedals to look carbon max's and set my cleats on Lake tri shoes. Droped the seat post 3/16" and change the bushing in the stem to lower the angle. Dropped the pads about 3/4" and moved them out a little. Feels pretty good, but need to spend some time on it. WIll post again with new video/pics, and I'll get the helmet out. Maybe throw on the trispokes to make the pics look fast
Yeah, funny on the dogs. We have two weims, that usually come down and lay there watching my spin. Not sure what it does for them
Checked the website the seat angle is unkown, I have the seat post in the foward mount, rails little past half way. Seat nose is about 1/2" back from center of bottom bracket.
Thanks for the inputs. I changed out my pedals to look carbon max's and set my cleats on Lake tri shoes. Droped the seat post 3/16" and change the bushing in the stem to lower the angle. Dropped the pads about 3/4" and moved them out a little. Feels pretty good, but need to spend some time on it. WIll post again with new video/pics, and I'll get the helmet out. Maybe throw on the trispokes to make the pics look fast
Love the two weims. I also have two weims who can't bear to be outside of the same room as me either!
While doing my intervals today , I had my wife come down to capture the new adjustments. I slowed the cadence down to look at seat height, and how I bottom out on the stroke. It feels better in my shoulder and arm comfort, and I am far as I get on breathing. My back is fine with it. I hope to drop my frontal area another 1" as I drop weight. In my quest to get low and fast I am sorta low and sorta fat for the moment. We're getting there
I've got a question about bike fit. May post a pic or video if needed, but not sure I need to. Anyway, I was fit for my tri-bike by my LBS who did a great job (at least I think he did). But I HATED by aero bars and recently replaced them. The old ones were Profile Design's "Stryke" style where the ends pointed up at an angle. My new ones are typical "s" shaped bars that seem more natural to me.
The problem is that I can't seem to keep my hands comfortable and I am not sure where, on the bars, I am supposed to grip. At the very ends? In the 'curve' near the end? Also, what angle should my upper arm be compared to the ground? I have heard it should be pointed straight down, but when trying that, it doesn't feel natural. And after messing with position trying to get it right, I think I have screwed up something. And I don't really want to go in and drop another $200 just to have my bars adjusted.
Comments
Mike if you felt fine and went faster what are you trying to achieve?
@Dan...I COULD move it forward another 1-2 cm
@Chris....I just wanted to check my position to make sure no adjustments need to be made during the winter. I was wondering IF I moved my saddle forward 1-2 cm (which I have room to do) WOULD I be more powerful? (this puts my saddle tip FORWARD to the bottom bracket.)
I was thinking my seat was too high, but dynamically when looking at a video I tend to ankle down at the bottom better than the pic shows so I thinking saddle height is OK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LelX9plDCIo
See what you think.
I think it looks good. When you scooted forward your shoulders almost went past your elbows. I also watched the other one and you have those aero bars nice and low. It looks like you've got two inches of steerer tube sticking up. What kind of saddle is that? It looks like it's as high as it needs to go.
I think you told me you used TTbikefit?
Does anyone know...do we have an EN deal with TTBikefit?
Yes they do. My girlfriend and I recently did a pre-buy bike fit with Todd at ttbikefit in person . My girlfriend and I spent 4-5 hours in his shop, on his machine, going over choices, and questions , then I cam home to a full summary email report, and currently we are up to 21 emails of questions and answers. He has been unbelievably thorough , patient, quick to respond and very knowledgable. I want to buy a bike from him and am pretty close to pulling the trigger on a Blue or 2 LOL. If I buy through him the fit is included and if I dont I will bring my new bike down and pay for a fit!
@Joseph Yes! He is totally worth it. He fit me on my prior road and TT bke in 2009 then helped me buy the proper frame/stem, etc when I purchased a new bike last year. He keeps working with you until you are satisfied and goes way beyond the expected level of service.
Ok...speaking of Bike Fit...and Bike Fitting....does anyone else have the problem of their knees smashing into their aerobars?
Is this common/uncommon/crazy? and any suggestions...try t move them forward? I don't think I want to move seat back...but may want to be raising it a bit...
Any thoughts are appreciated?
If your knees are hitting the bars when seated/aero, you could try a longer stem to move it away from you some more. Of course, that changes other things about your fit though.
Not so much standing...as I try like heck to stay seated ....Mostly it occurs when I shift way forward on my seat and "jump on it"...not when simply spinning/riding in aero....but I do that often enough that it makes me think something about my setup could be improved...I'm pretty sure I will be taking myself and my bike to TT Tribike fit sometime around the time the weather improves enough to be outdoors regularly.
Not supposed to happen. Either you're in the wrong sport (i.e., you have the build of an NBA small forward - long femurs relative to trunk length), or you and your bike are mismatched. Get fit by TT or other expert as you plan. Meanwhile, stay off the rivet!
Brett Luxon
@ Kim - Your seat is too low and your bars are too high. I'd raise the seat an a couple of centimeters (maybe even an inch). Can you drop the bars? I know aerobars on a road bike presents its own set of difficulties. Is the bike a bit too small for you. The frame seems tiny but that just might be my ignorance as to women's road bikes.
Repost:
HI, just looking for opinions on current bike position. First time I have had a specific tri bike rather than converted road bike. I think I am forward enough, but that's in an impression. SO far getting confortable, need to convert over to new pedals and Lake tri shoes. Debating as to if I can go lower, or wait until I drop more weight (remove that pesky obstruction). So far not cramping up my breathing
http://youtu.be/H3Fbc9MZWAE
Thanks David, I am thinking that I could drop a little more when I drop another 15-20 lbs. Currently ok comfort wise. This is a self fit, debating on getting one done. I have a set of trispokes, and a rear disk, along with a Rudy aero helmet. WIll be switching up thewheels soon.
you're headed in the right direction, definitely room to improve. As you feel more comfortable, you want to work towards further forward and lower. For a good example, scroll to the first page of this thread, and take a look at Matt Ancona's fit (about halfway down).
Your seat may be a bit too high, as it looks like you might be locking out your knee at the bottom of the pedal stroke. Hard to get good strong engagement of the glutes and hamstrings when you're too high up.
Mike J., I agree with Mike G. in that your seat might be a smidge high. Ideally you could also drop some height from the front end but that's only if you're comfortable. I'd also suggest sliding forward a bit more on the saddle.
What's your seat tube angle?
Yeah, funny on the dogs. We have two weims, that usually come down and lay there watching my spin. Not sure what it does for them
Checked the website the seat angle is unkown, I have the seat post in the foward mount, rails little past half way. Seat nose is about 1/2" back from center of bottom bracket.
Thanks for the inputs. I changed out my pedals to look carbon max's and set my cleats on Lake tri shoes. Droped the seat post 3/16" and change the bushing in the stem to lower the angle. Dropped the pads about 3/4" and moved them out a little. Feels pretty good, but need to spend some time on it. WIll post again with new video/pics, and I'll get the helmet out. Maybe throw on the trispokes to make the pics look fast
Found a manual, that indicates I am at around 77.5-78 degrees in that setup
Love the two weims. I also have two weims who can't bear to be outside of the same room as me either!
While doing my intervals today , I had my wife come down to capture the new adjustments. I slowed the cadence down to look at seat height, and how I bottom out on the stroke. It feels better in my shoulder and arm comfort, and I am far as I get on breathing. My back is fine with it. I hope to drop my frontal area another 1" as I drop weight. In my quest to get low and fast I am sorta low and sorta fat for the moment. We're getting there
I've got a question about bike fit. May post a pic or video if needed, but not sure I need to. Anyway, I was fit for my tri-bike by my LBS who did a great job (at least I think he did). But I HATED by aero bars and recently replaced them. The old ones were Profile Design's "Stryke" style where the ends pointed up at an angle. My new ones are typical "s" shaped bars that seem more natural to me.
The problem is that I can't seem to keep my hands comfortable and I am not sure where, on the bars, I am supposed to grip. At the very ends? In the 'curve' near the end? Also, what angle should my upper arm be compared to the ground? I have heard it should be pointed straight down, but when trying that, it doesn't feel natural. And after messing with position trying to get it right, I think I have screwed up something. And I don't really want to go in and drop another $200 just to have my bars adjusted.
Thanks for any suggestions.